Support Site Search Bar Feedback

Hey everyone, Bruce, our Director of Community Engagement would like your opinion.

Hey, Wyze Community! I’m Bruce, the Director of Customer Engagement here at Wyze. We recently launched our new, AI-powered search bar on our support site and we want to know what YOU think! Please choose one of the options below. You can also share additional feedback in the comments. We look forward to hearing your thoughts!

If you want to check it out before answering, here’s the link: https://support.wyze.com/hc/en-us

  • I used it and I loved it!
  • It’s ok, but needs work.
  • I used it but it’s not good.
  • I haven’t used it.
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I like that it includes references to the knowledge base for the things it says.

I think it could be improved by also being able to report known issues, Service status and Fix it Friday reports (though we haven’t had any Fix It Friday in a few months now :sob: )

I understand why it doesn’t use the forum as part of it’s knowledge base, since some comments in here are likely wrong or not official, but there is a lot of valuable information in here too. That is a tough spot to be in.

In summary, I love that it provides quick summaries of things from the knowledge base (good for TLDR; people), and includes references for it’s sources. I do think more could be added to it about common issues known and being worked on.

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I don’t think AI should pull info from the forum unless limited to human-vetted Wyze employee posts. But then that Wyze info should also be on the support site somewhere which would make the forum linkage redundant. It would be really nice to include service status and known issues info.

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I agree. I am just pointing out that the AI can’t answer everything and is missing a lot of answers that can be found in here. I completely understand why they wouldn’t use the forum as a data source, and my point is that because of that I don’t think an official company-sanctioned AI can realistically replace all the good information and help that can be obtained from the forum because it’s not able to safely use it as a company approved source. So there will always be more information here in that sense.

Still, I agree that that most of the best stuff they can vet and move to the official knowledge base / support site for the AI to use.

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For the most part, I’m not a fan, but I’ll start with a positive (so my vote could almost as easily go into the “It’s ok, but needs work.” category).

It does do a decent job of summarizing some content, like when I was curious about a mesh router comparison. That’s actually kind of nice that it can compile and present that information in a useful format along with references and links to sources.

On the downside, it seems unnecessarily cumbersome and intrusive when I want to find specific information quickly. I understand putting it front and center for the main interface that you want users to interact with, but it often feels like it actually adds to the work and steps necessary for a user to find certain information (like a contact phone number that requires nine steps to produce[1]), and the process of trying to open a ticket is significantly less efficient since the full-page ticket submission form has been removed and the user is required to jump through seven hoops in order to get to a pitifully-abbreviated submission form within the chat facility. This just feels really anti-user to me.

At least in a desktop browser the regular non-AI search facility is still available near the upper-right of the page (and in the ≡ “hamburger” menu in a mobile browser), but in the case of creating tickets a search here merely directs a user to the “How do I contact Wyze Support?” Help Center article, which directs users back to the AI-powered search bar in order to create a ticket. This kind of run-around is frustrating and unnecessary.

To end on a positive-ish note, I do think the AI-enhanced search box is less intrusive now than it was several weeks or months ago, when it would automatically pop-up from the lower-right corner of the screen and try to initiate a chat any time I hit the Help Center’s home page. That was a bloody nightmare on mobile. :roll_eyes:


  1. I guess technically I just did it in 8 steps, but it would be only 7 if I didn’t have to click the same :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: response twice early in the process, and that’s still too :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: many. ↩︎

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Well-said. :+1:

I have mixed feelings on the “run around” aspect, especially having worked customer service back in College.

When I worked customer service, it seemed like A LOT of calls would be completely frivolous stuff that could be answered by a simple search. The fortune 500 companies I worked for were wasting millions of dollar on completely frivolous nonsense from a lot of customers, having to pay me and many others to babysit people who didn’t try something as simple as “did you press the power button?” or whatever else.

In the past, the companies’ solutions to this was to give people a phone number easily but to compensate through a complex IVR system that would gatekeep someone from getting to customer service right away. It would make people navigate a menu that forced them to answer whether they had done the obvious basics before they could talk to a human. These IVR systems made people mad, but they also saved companies millions of dollars and made them more competitive because they totally filtered out the frivolous things that could be answered by someone other than human discretion that has ongoing costs for each use.

Fast forward through technological advances and this is the new IVR system. Maybe we don’t get a phone number quickly, but you also often don’t have to navigate through a menu for a half hour. The IVR has just been pushed back to something like this AI. Yes, Wyze could absolutely just easily give everyone the number to call to get right through to a human, but then they’d also have to raise their prices significantly to compensate for all the people calling in asking how to do something when there are already existing instructions they can just follow.

I am personally supportive of Wyze or other companies making efforts to keep their costs down and provide alternative solutions to address frivolous or easily answered issues, which comprise the majority of support calls. Yes, there will likely always be a need for human discretion for things that are outside the scope of the standard knowledge base, or not as simple as “did you try clearing the cache, restarting the camera and your phone and trying again?” But I do think they should discourage some lonely customer just calling in to chat with someone because they’re bored (it happens more than you’d think).

Besides, when you do get a human, the majority of the conversation is often required to follow or at least loosely comply with a certain script based on the presenting issue anyway, so the human is still basically just telling you the same thing that the AI is going to say, only it makes Wyze raise my costs just because someone prefers to think a human is reading the script instead of the AI.

Don’t get me wrong. When there is a legit issue, and things the AI can’t do, they should be swiftly moved to things that need human discretion, such as anything dealing with the account, money, or logs that need to be reviewed by the devs, etc. Lots of legit things. But I am supportive of having some kind of filter to reduce costs and allow me to keep buying things more affordably instead of me having to subsidize expanded wasted human support costs for things that the AI could answer, and sometimes answer better than a human (summarizing the most likely solution from the knowledge base).

For those reasons, I like it.

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Good support for what I was just saying in this new thread. :slight_smile:

I like the AI in general, but it doesn’t completely take the place of the forums or support. It’s an AWESOME tool though, IMO. I was impressed how well it referenced and summarized things in my tests.

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You mean like users who start new Forum topics when answers to their questions have already been provided elsewhere and can be found by using the search facility here? :roll_eyes:

I agree with some of the points you made, particularly with respect to the real financial cost of employing humans to deal with customers. I applaud Wyze’s efforts to maximize their use of technology, even when it doesn’t directly involve one of their physical consumer products, because I believe that speaks to one of their stated tenets. What I abhor are the unnecessary inefficiencies built into the automation processes (like requiring the user to click the same response twice early in the process just to get a phone number or open a ticket) that increase the human customer frustration, because that translates to user dissatisfaction, and that’s also a tangible cost that seems antithetical to their principle of being friends with users and “goal to become the most customer-centric smart home technology company.

Posting topics like this is a positive step, though. I genuinely appreciate that they’re actively soliciting feedback from users.

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Clicking here:

Landed me here:


 

 
The forum link I provided:

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Sorry. TLDR. :slightly_frowning_face:

Your loss. :slight_smile:

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Unpinned.

I will take your word for it.

You are an honorable chap.

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:handshake:

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Its useless. The motion videos give me what I want. Why would I waste time searching in a search bar when the event videos give me what I want. If you want to do something special, allow us to assign differing notification sounds to each cam. That way I would know exactly where the intrusion is around my house without even looking at my phone.

I’m mildly perplexed by this comment. Is it about the AI-powered search on the Help Center Web site, or is it about some feature of the Wyze app? I’m asking because I’m confused and think this comment might be misplaced, wondering if perhaps it’s intended to be direct feedback about the app and might get better visibility in a topic like News about Wyze app 3.0 or a relevant Wishlist topic. :man_shrugging:

I think there is a misunderstanding. This thread is asking about the search in the Help Center/support website, not the app or the web portal. Example:

Basically, asking whether the support search has helped people find answers to a problem they’re having, or a question about a product, etc. They’re not asking [here in this particular thread] about event videos search, or notifications, though that feedback is valuable as well. Consider posting the event video search feedback in the thread that is about that topic here: AI Video Search - Launched 8/28/2024 Then even have the PM conversing with people about it there, and it will be appreciated in that location. :+1:

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I think it’s kind of funny that your arrow points to the non-AI search on the Help Center site instead of the AI-powered search in the middle of the home page that’s the subject of this topic. Was that intentional? :wink:

Frankly, I’m glad that they’re both there, though I wouldn’t be surprised if one of Wyze’s motivations for soliciting feedback was to gauge reaction for removing the regular upper-right “Site Search” facility at some point. :upside_down_face:

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Oops! Just lazy oversight. My brain saw the word “Search Bar” and I went to the typical search bar on auto-pilot :joy:

Still had the same point that it wasn’t about the app, but yeah, totally arrowed the wrong search bar.

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