Home Assistant Integration

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Yeah, the main problem is that because it’s a reverse hack, the seckatie integration relied on “polling” which was overwhelming Wyze’s servers, especially for things like sensors and camera motion events working as motion sensor. More than half of all server traffic was being used up by something like 1% of users using Home Assistant polling. Wyze talked with seckatie about how they could manage allowing the integration to continue without overwhelming their server with excessive polling, and the compromise was to remove sensor polling and camera polling but mostly allow the rest to continue.

If Wyze makes their own integration with OFFICIAL API access, then it wouldn’t rely on over-polling nonsense and could simply get pushed when it’s relevant similar to the other integrations for Alexa or Google that don’t overwhelm Wyze’s servers. The problem with the Home Assistant integration was because it wasn’t official, it had to rely on excessive polling. They could easily resolve that by making it official. Like you said, most of the work has already been done for them and is open source. They just need to make a few tweaks.

I’m reasonably optimistic that good improvements are coming.
The timeline is another matter though.
I’m actually pretty surprised Wyze is pushing forward with RTSP right now. I was pretty confident they would at least wait until the matter camera libraries were finalized and then decide after that. I just with the CSA would quit dragging their feet on it.

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I’m also probably going to be too old for Matter in my home lab. I don’t personally even look at it or follow it much.

There is also value in the Works with Home Assistant label.

Google says, Home Assistant reports over 2 million active installations worldwide, according to their blog.

This includes over 233,000 installations that actively share usage statistics. However, the actual number of users is significantly higher, as a third of users opt out of sharing analytics.

A less expensive camera option (Wyze) that’s HA compatible could attract old and new customers. If we can eliminate cloud via RSTP and use local storage. Options. Growth. Even stick an Ethernet port in some new models for POE. V4 or V5, $65+ lol.

And still cater to the less expensive stuff.

There’s value in that. IMHO

Think out of the Wyze box Wyze.

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I am again prodding Wyze on Home Assistant. Maybe drop a line on my Reddit post for their July Support Megathread:

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Dropped a lot of lines there and here. Tiring.

I have another brands very closed system, still have the junk hardware, supposedly a security system. Laughable. The sensors are only half decent, closed, expensive cameras suck. Simplijunk.:wink: RF system, pathetic and limited in actual use. Suits some. Not me.

Home Assistant and Alarmo is the security now. No cameras in there yet…

That’s why I moved to Wyze, my control, only to find out Wyze and other ecosystems give a little more, automations & such but aren’t compatible much. If any. My bad research in both cases.

Wyze and similar companies are missing the boat by hoarding our use of their products as we desire.

There’s already a draft integration, Seckatie, restricted by Wyze. Just open the windows and let us control our hardware.

I promise I’m willing to pay for it or was. But I’ve been with Wyze two years, they won’t miss me. They haven’t moved at all, can’t do squat with my Wyze cams, turn on a bulb, about it. Convoluted HAOS & Wyze workarounds.

Maybe I just gotta move on, waiting is rediculous. Reolink WiFi or POE works well with Home Assistant.

Maybe that’s my direction and just slowly eliminate Wyze and the other junk brand expensive cameras I have hanging.

Home Assistant is growing, fast…get on the boat, or miss it. Up to Wyze and other companies.

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Be glad you’re not trying to do something with Apple HomeKit :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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I wouldn’t know where to start.

If you’re using Apple Homekit, HAOS supposedly has an integration that acts as a bridge to Homekit devices.

HAOS would open up a whole new world of automation unless you already have it. (If you have time for it.)

I have lots of power and automation available in Android & HAOS, just splattered across many apps, clouds & ecosystems.

Mostly my fault, for initially choosing cloud & Wi-Fi devices. I’ve just about made up my mind to move on to all local to my LAN. Hindsight.

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Man, Aqara is going to put a hurt on the camera businesses. Just released recently the G5 pro which is a hub for matter, zigbee high res, high price, not terrible today at Amazon @$129ish, you check.

But the newest model G100 is $34.99, wifi, usb 2k, IP65 indoors or out. Supports RTSP, NAS or cloud storage, SD to 512gb, USBC. Home Assistant. Etc.

These will replace my Wyze outdoors as they fail just because of Home Assistant compatibility via RTSP.:person_shrugging:

Don’t get me wrong, I like my Wyze but their almost locked into Wyze only.

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Very promising. I’ll check them out as my trusty, non-RTSP Wyze cameras age into non-functionality.
Thanks!

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I’m going to order one just to try one out and see. I’m also another Dave :joy:.

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Hadn’t heard of Aqara, thanks for sharing.

I really like the Aqara Curtain Contollers and Valve Controller

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Aqara is related to Xiaomi (though not technically a full subsidiary, Xiaomi owns a big stake, though though the amount is confidential, just that they have substantial influence and control over Aqara’s strategy and direction and integrates them into their ecosystem). Xiaomi is the Chinese company that started off very similar to Wyze with the same suppliers (especially for Wyze’s early products going through Hualai before Wyze diversified to tons of suppliers). But Wyze took a turn to give up on almost everything but cameras, and Xiaomi started having Aqara take over most of their smart home ecosystem. Aqara turned their smart home ecosystem into much of what I had originally hoped Wyze would evolve to do, except for being owned and operated primarily by Chinese stakeholders. I have often been buying a lot of Aqara stuff for my Home Assistant Instance through AliExpress, especially if they will connect totally locally and are not a cloud type of device that requires their app to use it (ie: sensors that connect to my Zigbee controller).

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