Native Home Assistant Integration for Wyze Products

Back in 2018 you had a post asking for Home Assistant Integration that received nearly 2000 votes, and you tagged with “Maybe Later”. Well, it has been 7 years since that post. and I guess “Maybe Later means over our dead bodies”.
Please Wyze, do yourself and all your users a favor and allow Wyze Products to Integrate with one of the largest Open Source (FREE) Home automation systems on the planet.
I know that on your roadmap to world dominance you have planned your own Eco System and you feel that you want to be like Apple, well even Apple has HomeKit and they link to Home Assistant. Do you know that sales of your products would increase dramatically around the world, if they could be used on Home Assistant? Millions of people that use Home Assistant steer clear of Wyze because of the issues using workarounds to make them work with HA. Now imagine that Wyze makes it products compatible natively with HA, at your low prices you will sell out of most products. So please reconsider and take the fact that 7 years ago around 2000 of your customers wanted this, now it would be more likely to be over 10K.

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On the bright side, Wyze announced they are working on implementing RTSP on most of their cams now with the first batch of Beta testing anticipated to launch in October. That will allow camera streams into Home Assistant.

I hope they also add some other features to be able to be imported, maybe through MQTT, or HTTP or even support ONVIF.

It looks like Wyze is partially waiting for the Matter Camera libraries to be released this fall before deciding how to move forward. From their AMA at the end of August:

I don’t think they’ll be ready to give any definitives on new integrations until the Matter camera libraries are finalized and launched and they can then convene to decide what to plan for their roadmap.

My expectation and timeline is roughly as follows:

  • Matter Camera Libraries are released by December 2025 (hopefully sooner).
  • Wyze decides how to move forward
    • Do they only support future cams?
    • Do they add support to existing legacy cameras that are capable of the new large libraries and resource requirements?
    • Do they build a Matter Bridge for legacy devices?
    • Do they add support for other devices besides cameras?
    • Should they still build a direct Home Assistant Integration, or would it be a total waste of time since adding Matter already makes things integrate well with Home Assistant? Redundancy may be wasteful.
    • What amount of priority should be pushed for any of the above decisions?
  • Their roadmap is usually planned 6-12 months in advance,
    • So do they just schedule the updates for 6-12 months away?
    • Is that when they START working on it, or when they want it to be completed?
    • Do they scrap everything currently on the roadmap and how much of a loss will they take doing that?

And Matter support is automatically Home Assistant Support. Anything that supports matter will be fully supported by Home Assistant. So that will also lead to what we want.

There are a lot of things to consider, and their implementation will take some development time. I’ve been guessing for a while that we might start to see some Matter stuff within a year of whenever the CSA finally releases the Matter Camera Libraries. It sounds like the CSA finally stopped their in-fighting on cameras (this caused some delays) enough to get it ready to launch this fall. That means sometime within 2026 I expect to see Wyze at least start to implement their first Matter products finally, see how well that performs, and if it is well received, they will probably expand more in 2027.

I still think they should make a direct Home Assistant Integration so that they can bring in a ton of other entities the cameras and other devices have that Matter doesn’t support [yet], but I don’t think they’re willing to entertain the rationales for that until after they have the full details on Matter and are able to see how that goes. Then we’ll have a better case to make to convince them to support Home Assistant.

Believe me, I don’t let them forget Home Assistant. I constantly bring it up with all the employees when I talk with them, and I bring it up in almost every AMA if someone else doesn’t. I hound them about it more than anyone, guaranteed. I think their lack of Home Assistant Support is their number one flaw. Second would be cloud dependency, or maybe failing to give access to local Edge AI detection free on their cameras like many competitors are doing. I think they are making some steps in the right direction though with finally agreeing to massively support RTSP on most of their cams, and telling us they are actively evaluating Matter and just waiting for it to launch for cameras so they can finally decide how to procede. Those are acceptable steps for me. I wish the timeline was faster, but at least they’re being somewhat reasonable instead of completely dismissive.

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Thanks for getting back to me with this explanation, I certainly hope that Wyze adopt Matter into their products, because I would start to buy them again, The issue I had was I have a lot of Wyze products, but when I found Home Assistant I was not able to bring any of them into HA without using some unreliable HACS workarounds, which relied on certain Firmware. So, I switched to Eufy for my recent Cameras and other manufacturers that work with Home Assistant for locks and sensors. I love the new Wyze Palmprint lock but cannot buy it until either Matter is built-in or it links to HA natively over Wifi or some other protocol. I will keep watching to see if Wyze integrates Matter in all future products, if so, they will win me back as a customer.

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We have questions about the new lock getting matter in the future in the AMA that should be happening today. Fully they answer that question.

I am planning to use the new Palm lock and get it into home assistant one way or another. I know that Wyze has an Alexa integration for it, and I have Alexa integrated into home assistant already too. So for me, at the worst case, I will just create some binary home assistant entities that I exposed to Alexa, and have Alexa match them with the Palm lock. Then I will have pretty immediate updates in home assistant for the lock and even be able to control it from home assistant too. While that is still a workaround, it’s one I’m willing to accept through Alexa.

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It blows my mind that independent, non-paid individuals can provide custom RTSP firmware & Home Assistant integration (Docker-Wyze-Bridge), but Wyze has not. Does that make sense? …I really wish they’d fork Docker-Wyze-Bridge to make an official Wyze integration. It even had MQTT options for motion sensing. I would literally pay for this feature. I love easy-peasy cloud solutions, but I also want local-only alternative options. Home Assistant has been the open source answer to the IoT disaster, long before Matter was a fancy buzz word. Wyze, it’s long past time you stop hiding behind Matter & work with the open source community. Again, I’d even be fine with putting local HA intergration behind a paywall.

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I’ve been a Wyze Cam user since the very beginning and built out coverage for my whole home. I was hopeful that over time Wyze would support an official, open way to connect with smart home systems like Home Assistant. What I need is simple: control over my own cameras, the ability to bring their feeds into my system without hacks, and the ability to get alerts into my automations so my home can make smart decisions.

Yes, there are community workarounds, but they’re fragile and break whenever something changes on Wyze’s end. At a minimum, I expected Wyze to sponsor or provide a reliable Home Assistant integration. Instead, it feels like they’ve chosen to protect a walled garden.

I have supported Wyze with my dollars up until now, but just like at the ballot box, if a candidate fails to deliver on what matters, I have to vote for someone else. I’ve cast my vote for Wyze for years, but since the openness and integration I need isn’t there, my next vote will go to another company.

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Welcome to the Forum, @digitalvir! :wave:

For whatever it’s worth, Wyze has apparently been working on getting RTSP into some Cam models and has been soliciting user feedback—including in a couple of surveys—in that linked topic, so I see that as a step in the right direction. If nothing else, it might help to accomplish at least one of your goals:

I don’t know if something like that would factor into your vote or not, but I wanted to share that in case you weren’t aware.

I don’t even use Home Assistant (yet), but I agree that this is something they should have already done.

I just wanted to add my voice to this. I used to own about 15 wyze cams, but ever since starting into home assistant, I’m pulling away from wyze. It doesn’t help that their smart plugs don’t last nearly long enough. I also had several cameras fail to reconnect to the network after changing access point settings. It’s sort of a double whammy. Lack of integration and poor quality. I’m down to 8 cams now and planning to test out Reolink and UniFi.

Unfortunately, Wyze-bridge appears to now be abandonware and someone else has forked it to continue development. Also, I have yet to get a V4 camera video feed working on it.

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Another customer here that previously recommended wyze but hasn’t in the last year or more. I personally have around 10+ wyze cameras, and at my recommendation at least another 20+ have been purchased, not including subscriptions…. I have already starting recommending Reolink because of the easy of use with Home Assistant. I really wish Wyze would have gotten on board with Home Assistant but I guess it’s time to look at switching my cameras out.

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Oh and one of the more popular YouTubers in the smart home space just made a video about which cameras integrate well into smart home platforms. Wyze didn’t fair well. I think it’s telling that they were first up.

Smart Home Solver’s Camera Integration Video

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I keep telling Wyze they are going to start losing a ton of business because of exactly this kind of video. Truth is that the majority of people who get a smart home camera don’t use other smart home integrations. They only care about recording to an SD card and getting notifications of events. So yeah, Wyze is right that supporting other platform integrations is more of a smaller niche situation that most people won’t use. But what they are failing to take into account is that the minority who do need this are the most influential and important group that they need to cater to. They are the ones making all of these videos about what are the best smart cameras and because Wyze doesn’t support the more advanced things that these influencers want, it’s not a good camera for the influencers and thus those same people will tell their audience and family and friends that it’s not a good camera. Their audience and their family and friends will end up going with a different company that provides the more advanced things that they don’t even need or will never use. But the fact is that Wyze is losing money from people who they would be perfect for simply because they don’t include the more advanced things needed by the people who those other people trust and listen to.

I really do believe that Wyze is a fantastic option for the majority of people who only want something that will record free to an SD card and allow them to review recordings when something happens and maybe get an alert notification on their phone when there is motion on their front porch or something. Wyze is fantastic for All those people. But a lot of those people will buy from someone else, often for more money just because somebody else Who they trust as really knowledgeable about these kind of things tells them Wyze is garbage because they don’t support home assistant and they won’t buy anymore from Wyze because of lack of good smart home automation options through home assistant. Home assistant is totally irrelevant to more than 90% of the smart camera Market, But the people who influence the rest of the people think it matters a lot.

I think that Wyze is starting to catch on to this though. We should be getting some kind of announcement about rtsp beta next week during Wyze week which will at least allow us to integrate our camera feeds into home assistant and frigate and do more smart home automations. So that’s a big step in the right direction to at least have them compete a little better with eufy and Tapo, But I really think they need to step it up and do a real official integration with home assistant that includes a lot more camera entities and detections. They also really need to start providing local Edge AI detections for free or they will keep falling behind all their competitors that are offering those for free.

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Totally agree with the above. Case in point, I had one of my neighbours at the cottage over for beer and he noticed my cameras. He asked for my recommendation and because he has a DSL 10/1 Mbps (same I had a year ago) I told him to stay away from Wyze as they are cloud dependant and they will be useless with his internet. I recommended Reolink and Tapo as both brands have on board local AI. He went with Tapo C120 and he’s very happy with his four cameras. When time comes to retire my Wyze cameras I will be replacing them with either Tapo or Reolink.

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As much as I love our Wyze ecosystem I’m getting the feeling they’re just not the devices for adjusting with the times or applying new tech software integrations. I’m guessing that’s by design (hence the low price) but it WOULD be nice to have some 3rd party integration (Home Assistant).

Didn’t realize Tapo was a T-Link product. With their faulty regular vulnerabilities and fact they’re a Chinese company brings me pause so might have to do some research on reolink.

I don’t have my cameras anywhere were there is privacy concern, so not really concerned. I believe Reolink is a Chinese company as well.

I just finished setting up a Home Assistant VM in my home lab and I was shocked when opened it up and it saw pretty much everything EXCEPT my Wyze products. I then immediately found this thread and now I’m regretting putting all my cameras, doors, lights into the Wyze ecosystem. I really hope this changes soon. The app itself is fine, but I really want to see what is possible by having all my smart devices be able to be managed from HA.

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The problem with Wyze is they see the subscription model as the goal here, to turn into something like Apple but more affordable. But if you look around, why doesn’t everyone have an iPhone, because people like to choose what is best. Wyze devices would be a great addition to the world’s largest Home Automation system Home Assistant. But you see if they release control, you won’t use the Wyze App, and that gives them an income from the data that it collects for them from your phone. Add the fact that they won’t be able to sell cloud storage except to those that stay in the Wyze Ecosystem. And that is why they will never move over to Home Assistant, even though sales would quadruple overnight if they did. Such a waste.

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They’ve addressed this many times. They don’t get an “income” from other companies by “selling” our data. They do use identifiers to be able to advertise their own products back to you in the hopes you will buy more of their products, and if you do buy more of their products then they may get an income from your purchase of more stuff. But to me that is extremely different than “selling” my personal information to another company just to make money in a transaction to that company by giving data about me in exchange for that company giving them money like most other companies do to get an income. Wyze doesn’t do that. I actually appreciate that about them. They are welcome to advertise to me on sites where I’m going to get ads no matter what anyway and hope I buy more of their stuff.

BUT for those who don’t even want that, they provide a way to opt out on their website and in the app. Go to the Account tab in the app, click on About and toggle off “Opt out of Data Sharing”…they already don’t “sell” your data or make a direct income from it, but if you also don’t want them to be able to identify you to sell products to you through ads as you surf the internet, you can turn that off too. Problem solved. Now you’ll only see their ads organically/randomly through external algorythms that identified you as someone who might be interested in buying from Wyze.

Sure. I’ve been involved in multiple for-profit startups and it’s not surprising to learn that making money is always a primary goal of a for-profit company, otherwise it would be a non-profit with all volunteer employees or something. However, many companies, including Wyze, understand that non-subscription attractants can act as a sort of funnel that will eventually lead a percentage of those people, or the secondary friends/family that they bring in to eventually try the subscriptions. For example, I came to Wyze for their smart scale. After analyzing more than a dozen smart scales (I had spreadsheets and everything comparing a ton), Wyze had the best scale at the best price. Then since I was getting their scale anyway, their cameras were one of the top options on my camera list. I had no intention to ever buy the subscription from them in 2020. I intended to use TinyCamPro and the free cloud/person detection. Then later they offered me a black friday deal that was too good to pass up where I would get some free cameras for each subscription of 1yr Cam Plus I ordered, so I bought 5. Then I loved the subscription and upgraded to Cam Unlimited during a major special. Kept it ever since.

Other people I know never got the subscription but influenced other people to get Wyze cameras and those people bought the subscription. Point is, they don’t need everyone to get the subscription. They can easily provide a lot of free value on some products or cameras for free users, and word of mouth of happy free users brings in more other users who actually do the subscription too. So there is definitely an incentive to offer free advanced products and features that most people will never use because it will make other users happy and make them more likely to tell people they are satisfied with the company products, getting more people to choose them even though they’ll use it differently.

But yeah, making money is the entire reason any corporation exists. That’s not to say that they can’t have core values, etc. But any owner or investor who isn’t “trying to make money” would likely be violating their “fiduciary duties” if they weren’t. There are other kinds of organizations for those not motivated to make money.

Wyze is already working toward getting their cameras in Home Assistant. They have been working on it for months to add RTSP to all their cameras. They just barely launched a testing preview (Beta or pre-beta) for V3’s and Pan V3’s and promised they are working on a lot more models too. In their instructions for it, they even wrote a specific section for how to get the cameras into Home Assistant:

https://wyze-beta.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/rtsp.html

So yes, they are definitely working toward this and even wrote out specific instructions to help people add their camera streams into Home Assistant. Personally, I think a lot of people will be more excited with Frigate and then running Frigate into Home Assistant. Then hopefully after the RTSP is finalized and publicly launched, they will start adding other entities and communication through MQTT or something. I am just happy they are releasing things overtime as they are ready instead of making us wait months (or years) until everything is ready all at once.

They have also been responding to us about their anticipation of the Matter camera libraries release this fall.

I am looking forward to all camera streams being in Home Assistant over the coming months. I think that’s almost guaranteed. Then we’ll see what Matter brings and what Wyze considers after that on their roadmap, but Camera streams in Home Assistant for most wired camera models are basically guaranteed at this point. :tada:

Big thanks to everyone who helped continually press them for this with questions about RTSP and Home Assistant in every AMA and lots of threads. They are finally giving in to us. :grin:

(note RTSP(s) is currently in testing. Dave said they hope to launch it to public/production for some models by the end of the year and then will work on more)

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Something is better than nothing, but still annoyed Wyze removed RTSP beta firmware for a few years then brought it back with little explanation? As for the AMA, as usual Wyze BARELY responded to Home Assistant related questions. They only briefly mentioned Matter & said they would follow up to your request - 8 days- ago. Home Assistant Integration has been requested for 7.5 years, with 1,906 votes & 993 comments. Seems painfully clear HA isn’t a priority for Wyze.

EVERY IoT company should make there products so that (1) they can work local-only, then (2) have cloud connectivity & (3) have Home Assistant compatibility.

The majority of owners probably only care about option 2, but option 1 & 3 ensures better user security, usability & local control. The AWS outage was a strong reminder to the internet that no cloud service is fool proof. Everything within a persons home should be engineered with privacy, security and local control in mind. Instead, silicon valley went nuts with IoT and the cloud, racing to be the biggest company with an exclusive ecosystem. Users are the ones that lose, with a hob-knob of smart-home products that don’t play nice, don’t always respect privacy, are subject to manufacturer security (Wyze’s security flub) and can stop in the blink of an eye (server outage, ISP outage, discontinued, company goes bankrupt). The cloud should be a value-added supplement to local first control, not the other way around.

@WyzeDave, I will absolutely pay extra for the convenience of your cloud service, but users should have full, local control of anything in their own house. FULL STOP!

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Quick Google search revealing part of the IoT graveyard:

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