My problem is I don’t have any ambient light and the IR mode picture is bad because of the outdoor housing. I guess I’ll just take the protective lens off and see what happens when it get wet.
“@jeff007 and @steve4335, the shipping and discount logic for pre-orders is a little funky so they’re excluded from the promotion.”
Sorry, but charging 30% more because your “logic for pre-orders is a little funky” is what I would call “increasing your GP, cause ya know: Funky”.
Additionally, you also put your price point at or above other cameras with RTSP, and person detection BUILT IN.
But, hey, enjoy the 30% funky margin!!
My cheap half-assed solution was to buy a stick up motion sensor light and mount it outside, and turn off IR on my inside camera shooting through the window. It’s actually been working so far, but I’m really not sure if I’m missing any motion at night.
Agree. Wyze hasn’t identified why many users have issues. Its either a hardware failure or software.
Instead Wyze has decided to focus on new products without regards to the original customers that helped get Wyze off the ground 3 years ago. Perhaps Wyze will be a “Sharper Image” brand of cameras (where that brand is now just a novelty brand with products that break/die after a few uses).
I have several cams that are connected 100% of time and sometimes get disconnected. I either have to unplug and repower them. Some cams that I have are connected to a hot spot AND are more prone to this type of connection loss. If I power cycle the hot spot and then the cam, they sometimes come back on the first try. If I cant get any to reconnect I end up having to link phone to cam and reconnect as a new cam(this is trying painful as the easy setup isn’t always easy).
Since it seems that a power restart of either cam or hot spot/router seems to help for some folks, It would be ideal if Wyze tested the following scenarios:
Power outage restarts.
Wifi connection loss restarts.
Generally, there seems to be some missing logic on these types of power/signal/connection loss scenarios.
For other folks, it could just be a hardware failure or firmware update issue that bricks the cam.
As I’ve stated in the past, Wyze products are more novelty than re-world robust solutions.
Because of these types of failures, I would never install a Wyze door lock on any exterior door (even if Wyze, or anyone, gave me one for free), nor would I trust the new v3 cam(or any Wyze cam) to be 100% reliable as a deterrent with its siren and lights.
I do have some v3 on order and expect to turn off motion detection (like all my v2 cams) with the “awesome” night vision capabilities…since it will be able to catch bugs even better! I suspect many more false alerts with the upgraded night vision.
I have a professional security cam system setup that will continue to be my go to system that is physically offline until needed.
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It’s a good solution. the motion detection is based on pixel changes for triggers, so having a well illuminated IR field really helps this process.
I have a couple IR floods that are triggered by various trigger events. I am able to have my local edge processor identify various objects/animals etc with pretty incredible accuracy. I use person identification as my trigger for lighting so my animals don’t trigger everything.
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My personal opinion is that Wyze is a good software company. They took Xiaomi’s camera, rebranded it and wrote better software for it, and this is what people loved. Wyze unfortunately can’t compete as a hardware company. A lot of their hardware never really leaves the beta phase. I know that eventually all my Wyze Sense sensors will brick themselves. But as long as it doesn’t happen at a high rate within 12 months of purchase, Wyze won’t have worry about it.
The company really just needs to go back to what they were excellent at, taking cheap Chinese designed products, rebranding them and writing better software.
I’ve found that the internet speed is only one facet of the equation. No ISP that I’ve ever encountered is issuing a router capable of handling the number of clients or the cumulative load of cams etc.
I took a Netgear R8000 and flashed it with Dd-Wrt firmware. This opens up access to enterprise level control and monitoring.
I have 6 Wyze cams, ring cams, Blink cams, IP cams, and over 70 other discrete devices, I also have over 50 Wyze sense motion and contact sensors deployed around my main property and my shop.
I set up an automation to monitor the network, and trigger a reboot if I see any marginal issues (there is always something) and have a very stable, reliable system.
I am also fortunate to have no neighbors within RF range so I operate with AP channel utilization’s of 0-2% so I have a clean environment that doesn’t interfere especially in the 2.4 band.
In the v3 camera description Wyze said the IR lights were invisible and this just isn’t true. They are still using red IR LED’s and I really wish they would use true invisible LED’s.
Yeah, I assumed the discount applied to the v3 too since it is at the front of their website with the v3. But it does clearly state that exclusions apply which I ignored until later. I would agree that the price point is competitive but with shipping being a definite added cost on the v3 there are other options on the market with free basic person detection AI baked on the device for just a few dollars more. The price point/product competitive edge differentiation here with the v3 is the starlight CMOS sensor (color night vision) and the IP65 outdoor rating which had me thinking for a bit. However, the starlight (color night vision) feature requires there to be low light conditions for it to actually work and my front porch cover and eaves provide just as good if not better of an outdoor rating. My other cams have 8 regular IR lights each and I can see just as good as the v3’s improved regular night IR vision if not better but no night color option. The v3 looks to be a great device for Wyze’s eco system for sure but the market in this space is moving so fast with improved tech all the time. I am wondering what/if/when they will release a pan/tilt with similar features such as a pan v2.
What is that accessory rounded looking box on top of the v3 in the video?
Absolutely has exceptional night vision, and I will probably add a couple to my array of devices, I also appreciate the weather resistance, making it great for applications where I want to capture some of the nightlife around here.
It is unfortunate that Wyze did not at least pull even with the brands such as Eufy and their $39 2K resolution with on-cam AI person, pet, baby crying detection. With support for 128GB SD cards to allow adequate continuous free local storage.
I am just tired of the apologists fawning over every release Wyze has, I will back any company I believe in, but I will also hold a company responsible for the decisions made that impact their users.
Wyze has strengths, hardware is not among them. Let’s be realistic, Wyze is a rebrander that is dependent on the real manufacturers to supply them their newest “new product”.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that model, but to think that any new release from Wyze is anything but a master distributor with a value added department that does integration work pushing a mod out the door is fooling themselves. The fact that they have not even managed to open and serve the Canadian marketplace shows that their team is punching above their weight class. Their relationship with Amazon is also a bit of a concern, and they need to watch their backs as Amazon has a documented track record of simply bootstrapping off their vendors customer base and that never ends well.
A product case in point, the absolute hack job of a lock system. Two communication protocols, neither implemented to industry standards (Zigbee and Bluetooth) which requires a “Custom” hub to function, and again that is also incompatible with any other devices. The continuing feedback is that the lock is NOT anything that you should be trusting your homes security to.
Anyone with an echo with Zigbee hub, anyone with a SmartThings hub, nope, we need you to congest the already saturated 2.4Ghz band by forcing two additional sources of interference.
I am also tired of the “we’re exploring integrations with SmartThings or HA or whoever??? I think that many of the Wyze team may even believe that, but with the funding rounds and now being under pressure to perform from their new “investors”, it’s become abundantly clear that the edict is to source it, slap some modified firmware on it. run a minimum of tests, and roll it out as the next shiny toy to have.
They have yet to launch a finished product, it just needs to appear to be good enough and cheap enough that the user base may complain, but few return the goods, so job done.
The lack of any structured support, the apparent complete lack of follow through on support commitments, the incessant bugs created, overlooked, or simply accepted by Wyze as good enough, emphasizes that this is an entity without a clear mandate to perform and service their user base.
Granted that the IoT sector has many examples of corporate malfeasance, but I have been disappointed in the abject failure of product after product. If anyone is foolish enough to think that this level of failure rate would be acceptable in commercial spaces they have no idea.
When Wyze implemented their noonlight security service, it was another red flag for me.
This is a line of HOME AUTOMATION devices and Smart Cams, it should NOT be leading anyone to view it as a Security or Medical Emergency service provider. I really hope they have some good legal specialists as they opened Pandora’s box with that one.
But subsequently, they double and triple down and decided to provide an alarm system.
So caution to the wind, critics aside, corporate edicts and proclamations to the contrary be damned…
This could, again, bare major litigious ramifications. How do you defend against the claims of users that chose to believe Wyze is indeed a provider of security systems and devices, that their cams provide security when the corporation has contradicted its own leg disclaimers and someone suffered as a result? Corporate malfeasance 101…
Wyze had the presence of mind to make the assertion that they were not a security provider, then they go and provide the very tool that any class action suit could ride all the way to the punitive awards phase.
When the statement was made by a Wyze employee on this very forum that “they didn’t realize how much money they were losing from their cloud processing costs”, and that “they discovered it after they hired a Finance Guy”, that spoke volumes.
I integrate systems, I came from the industrial space and understand the limits and the vulnerabilities of these products. and I also understand that they provide a great vehicle allowing many that would not otherwise explore the benefits that these products are capable of providing.
Wyze is great at sourcing underexposed products rebranding, throwing some firmware together, and has proven to be capable of moving volume, my hope is that they realize that their ecosystem as it exists is a hodgepodge of protocols and third party devices that will become increasingly difficult to support if they are not far more diligent in design. evaluation, and testing. Basic stuff. but so is having a finance guy from day one…
I guess I hope the best for Wyze, but as stated, I see some major hurdles and hazards, all self generated, that can and have brought companies down, and even pierced the corporate veil.
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Yes that’s why I used multiple routers/access points and VLANs. Device count has not been my issue. And I even use an Linksys router running DD-WRT as one of the access points myself. 
It’s also why I paid for a professional site survey to ensure channel congestion and contention was not an issue.
I am a long time programmer with a strong set of network administration skills and experience so it’s definitely not my first rodeo😅
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I honestly wasn’t underestimating your technical experience or prowess, sorry if it came over that way.
I have found that if I just state the bare min and convey technically, then either it is of no help to anyone starting out that comes across a post later.
I have also been guilty of developing technical hubris and assuming I got this, only to stumble over a simple step that I’d either forgotten or ignored and appreciate the bump to the memory. (Sux getting older. Hard drive gets full, then some admin decides to defrag and you can remember squat )
So, again, I’ve read enough of your posts to recognize your professional acumen, sorry if I conveyed otherwise!!
I did not take it that way. Just felt it might save some back and forth to be forthcoming at the start.
And more importantly, any old dog can learn new tricks! Not a day goes by some weeks where I don’t find that something I “knew” was wrong or outdated.
Ah. appreciate that!
“Ships in November” you say. Sorry, but based on previous experiences, I have to ask. Does that mean ships to individuals in November, or Home Depot and every other retailer first, then the little people?
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What [quote=“alanizat, post:412, topic:138796”] other cameras with RTSP, and person detection BUILT IN
[/quote] are you talking about?
Cheers,
Eufy for one has RTSP and PD support built into their standard firmware. Arlo also supports RTSP and PD and several other manufacturers do so. It’s actually pretty common and standard.
The latest is that some cams (and this was confirmed by tech team on phone last night) is that some cams will stop recording to the cloud if subbed to Cam Plus. They say it’s a known issue and be patient but never tell when it will be fixed. I find it odd that my cams record to the cloud when I sub to Cam plus but when I untick and have no active subs (but the licenses still there) the cams start recording again. I really feel that this is very poor customer service. Yet they still continue to release new products without fixing the errors and glitches of the existing products. Reminds me of Origin and Sims 3/Sims 4.
No I will not buy any more of their products til this is resolved. Why pay for another cam or whatever that will also give me the same glitches. $20 for me buys 2 weeks of groceries from Aldi
I really like this eufy, they also have a solid pan variant. I had initially thought that there would not be as much of a demonstrable difference in the video quality, but the 2K is sooo much cleaner.
I tend to pick them up for about $30 as they go on special fairly often.
I have found their app to be well developed, quick to respond. just a solid performer all round.
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