SmartThings Integration

Alan I think you’re right:
FYI from SmartThings/Samsung: Earlier this year, we highlighted
plans to enlist companies that are leaders in the smart home /
automation space to manufacture and distribute SmartThings hardware.
ST Hubs are no longer available anywhere.
Looks like Hubitat is the only reasonable alternative?
Others are on their way down, changing business models, or have super steep learning and implementation curves. Sigh,
IF Wyze doesn’t step up soon with a direct integration, does anyone have other suggestions for a local hub?

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You see the irony, right?
Wyze doesn’t make (or even design) their hardware. Wyze sensors are not available, yet we are here talking about integration.
Wyze has been dipping their toes into other business models.
If I may provoke, what do you want Wyze to do differently? Especially if the other options are inadequate.

No one is talking about Wyze manufacturing hardware for SmartThigns, which is what RollWithWyz was referring to with SmartThings’ recent announcements. We’re just talking about Wyze developing a SmartThigns device integration the way TONS of other smart product companies have, to allow their products to integrate with other products. It would add a TON of value to their products, suddenly making them much more powerful and appealing.

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I don’t think that we are in disagreement. I am just confused as to why the topic is being mixed with discussion of Smartthings hardware plans or alternative hubs.

The only thing that is not being discussed is what people believe “integration” means. Mark my words. If you believe that Wyze knows and agrees with your expectations, then you will be disappointed in the final offering.

Is it reading status of the legacy Sensors?
Is it controlling plugs and bulbs?
Is it motion trigger from cams?
Or, might they only be considering integration for new products, making their legacy devices useless?

Maybe this touches a nerve for me, personally. I work with a product that our sales team claims to need integration with another product. When I chat with them, they really want a completely different type of solution. Month after month, though, they just ask for integration. Not certain that this is the same, but how many people begged for outdoor cam when they really wanted V3 or something else entirely?

It would be great if they integrated there new products with smartthings… Smartthings is the best hub and has been around forever so it would make sense to integrate their products

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Agreed. Especially automating control of wyze devices like cams, bulbs, etc. Similarly to Ring, Arlo, Smart Schlage door locks, CREE bulbs, etc. I tip my hat to the excellent work of the WYZE developers. Just asking if it would be possible for Wyze devices to play in the same sand box as the Smartthings hub. From a cost perspective, this would allow users to slowly phase other brands to shift to a WYZE solution.

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SMARTTHINGS has become an unstable and unreliable trash fire since he new app migration started
i would like the intergration but if this crap persists much longer i am going to have to consider dumping the platform
today is about the 5th time this month half my devices ,devices of all diffrent connection protocol types, WIFI,zigbee, Zwave ,have gone to reporting offline status for no reason at all
i just love coming home and not being able to operate half my devices with Alexa/ Google and having none of my animations work and needing to spend all night and the next morning rebooting things and troubleshooting

i also LOVE having to troubleshoot my wyze alexa intergration every single day or every few hours too since they have implemented person detection ,i love it when i have to rename my cameras and then rename them all back again 2 or 3 imes a day to get them working with Alexa again
like i used to have to unlink and relink my wyze account from
Google every day to get it working with Google again
up untill a couple months ago when they finaly fixed it but not like it matters because the google intergration is all but useless anyways because of the 10 minute lag

There is a fairly comprehensive list being developed in a thread related to IFTTT which would be a great starting point for capabilities I’d want to see within the SmartThings platform, along with explosing the same capability within webCoRE and ActionTiles (although the future of webCoRE may be uncertain).

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But sadly Smart Things as we know it, is in the process of going away.
Their Hubs and some other devices are no longer available. They are recruiting other companies to take over their technologies.

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*take over their hardware. SmartThings has never manufactured their own hardware. Their core competencies have been their platforms and automations and that isn’t changing.

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Any update on Smartthings integration… I’m sure if you do this the Wyze would quickly gain market share as well as the cool factor. Hope you can do this quickly as I’m waiting on this integration to move to Wyze devices

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After reading what the direction of Samsung/SmartThings, I’m not too sure how the integration looks at this point.

Samsung has shutdown hardware sales and development and is moving to a tech licensing model. European division has already picked out Aeotec as their authorized licensee and they have/are releasing a SmartThings hub for that market.

I’d expect the same in the US market. This means that the tech will be controlled by a third party in the US, so Wyzes lack of interest will probable parlay into being locked out of any partnership.

Of course, I’m just some shmo reading tech news and not an insider that really knows what’s up, so there’s that!

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The changes SmartThings are doing in their hardware development only make sense. They are a software company primarily, the hub is just a means of applying some of that software, but not the only one. Lots of people use SmartThings without a hub.

They are going to focus on developing and improving the platform and not on the actual development and manufacturing of hardware. We have smart home devices from all kinds of companies, manufactured by a number of OTHER companies, who cares that one device is going to be manufactured by another company in the future? What matters is that our products can work together, and that’s what SmartThings are working on. And I truly hope Wyze are actually working on it too.

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I concur that Samsung’s business model makes sense for their market. I am a developer, so I choose to now use HA as they have deprecated many valuable features that they offered, and they also plan to remove all Groovy based custom drivers in phase three or four of their master planned migration.
Home Assistant allows anyone with the need or desire to truly customize, free reign to do so.

I keep checking back here every so often hoping something’s changed with this. It’s a shame because this would be a really great integration.

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Honestly, I’ve had no luck with SmartThings for this whole year.

I just migrated all my virtual devices from SmartThings over to my HA node.

I’m running some z-wave Samsung sensors and outlets using whats left of the SmartThings hub.

now there is no point of this topic. with Wyze Home Monitoring it seems to me Wyze is going proprietary for the smart home and automation.
I don’t think Wyze will ever integrate with smartthings.

I don’t think it changes the chances of it happening since I still wouldn’t consider Wyze a home automation platform. But maybe I’m an optimist and won’t consider it dead until @Frederik says it ain’t happening :slightly_smiling_face:

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For the moment it’s not in development. It’s not excluded and we are working on a project that will be a step closer to making it happening. As a SmartThings user myself, that’s an integration that I would like to see happening and rooting for.
Right now, I’m pretty sure that there is no chance for it to happen in the next 7 months (end of Q2). Pretty much all the resources that we have are already committed until that time.

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Disappointing news but I much prefer disappointing news and expectations set then no news and radio silence so thank you.

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