Finally saying goodbye to Wyze

Welp… I may be a little late with this but hey, better late than never. So for your clunkyness and reliability issues and poor SD playback… Theres actually a simple fix (well it was pretty simple for me anyway haha). In your routers wifi settings(I have an ASUS so I’m not to sure about your system) under professional, scroll down to “airtime fairness” and turn that off. My cams have been a dream ever since… Hope you see this cause it’s actually fixed all my issues… Don’t forget to do it on the 2.5GHZ band and not the 5ghz cause it may not change anything otherwise.

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And such are the vagaries of patent law. However, I don’t see person detection listed as an issue in the op.

Of course, that goes against the grain of its intended purpose (because it allows faster / more efficient devices a chance to get work done, rather than waiting on the slower/ inefficient devices) … but if if works for ya…

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The opposite actually, he says it works perfectly.

I don’t get where people say what do you expect for a $20 camera? I expect what they tell me I’m going to get. Just like with a $25 band. I expect what they say the features are going to be and how it’s going to function. I don’t care if it’s $25 or $25,000. Expected to function and perform to the ability that they tell me it will. If it doesn’t then it’s a failure or at least has flaws that need to be fixed. And that’s where I have a problem. There are a lot of problems, flaws, issues out there with Wyze products that are not getting fixed they’re getting pushed to the side so new products can be pushed out and those new products are being pushed out with flaws and issues etc. it’s just a never ending cycle.

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I know what you mean.
If you need reliable cameras I understand you jumping ship.
I was ok with the performance problems at first, thinking they are a new company, they’ll get it soon. That hasn’t happened. I feel like it’s been a three year beta experiment. :slightly_smiling_face:
Wyze is starting to show signs of taking the app problems seriously but I always get the feeling they are working in silos that are in different geographic areas. Internal communication seems to be a problem.

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I think the reason many jump to 'what do you expect for a $20 dollar camera" is because every product that comes out whether it be $20 or $25,000 will have flaws. So then it becomes at what price are you willing to put up with the flaws. If its a $20 dollar product some are more willing to put up with some issues. If I paid $2000 for the cam it better be almost perfect, $20 a different story.

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spot on. some people just shrug their shoulders and don’t care about so little as $20. other people think money is money and want to get what they thought they paid for. different strokes for different folks. what I don’t get is why people who didn’t care about wasting $20 in the first place now seem to so acutely care about others on this forum wondering where their $20 went? doesn’t seem consistent with the attitude.

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For me it’s all the harden work and the time I put into setup the Wyze system.
Like all the systems I’ve owned all took time to setup.
But ever since after the setting up the Wyze system caused me issues like no other.
Updates seem to fix smoething and other old flaky issues from the past reoccurs.
I’m still put hope in the Wyze Team because I’m spent on time at the moment.
In the meantime if not I’ll be looking for another system that will be less problematic.

Good luck OP…

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Absolutely! Different people have differing expectations for a $20 camera, and I hope we’re all tolerant of that.

But I suspect that for some of people, it may be that getting drawn into the total time & money investment is what agitates. I believe the most I have seen on this forum is someone with 31 cams, and many report having cams in remote vacation homes or distant cities, myself included.

So, many of us were victims of our own optimism, and now we know what to realistically expect and can use these relatively marvelous gadgets accordingly… :smirk:

“Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true.” ~ Demosthenes (circa 385-322 BC)

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How much for your WYZE products?. :slightly_smiling_face:

You’re right about pd, that was one of the few pros for him.

He also has problems with connectivity, SD card playback, Quality and performance discrepancies and his Wyze Sense kit losing connection.

In my opinion that’s significantly deficient even for a $20 camera…

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Pop conversion (1978-9) squirrelly old graybeards, still crankin’ it out:

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Well $20 still means something to me. Some make it sound like if it doesn’t work they’d just throw it away. I don’t throw $20 bills in the trash. If you can that’s awesome. I believe in capitalism and free market. But that also means I work hard for the money I have. I research before I spend and then I expect to get what I was told by the company I’d get. Not excuses. Not dates pushed back. Not a temporary fix that causes more problems. Or worse yet no communication. So yes I hold them to their word.

I’m newer here but I’m actually quite shocked by what people will let Wyze get away with. They just let it go. I hate to use the term but it’s almost fanboydom here. Nothing Wyze does is wrong. All praise Wyze and their mighty sometimes, 1/2 way working products. It’s just not my way of valuing money at all.

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You see, it’s not the outright amount one pays for a product that determines your expectations. Instead, it’s the perception of value. The product value proposition is unique to each person. “What do I want from this product and what should it do for me?”

The thread definitely deviated from my original intent - it’s not about complaining or fighting whether or not any specific person’s Wyze gear works without issue. It’s simply to make Wyze aware of the fact that they are now moving into a mainstream market where the value proposition is judged in a different way. I appreciate the amazing technical feat it is to offer a camera at $19 and even understand the technical reason for some limitations.

However, and this is the crux of the matter, usually a non-techsavvy consumer will expect a product to “just work” - that’s wat they value. “Does it do what I want and what it should?” They have little to no tolerance for constant bugs. An unrefined and unreliable product is deemed unfit for purpose.

Wyze is in a peculiar position due to their $19 price. I’m guessing most people unhappy with performance will just throw it away and not bother buying another product. And that’s the difference, they’re not tolerant to these issues because they expected it to “just work”. Most people on the forum are technically minded and we “get” Wyze and some of its shortcomings, yet, some other people won’t.

They will buy it, try it, become annoyed, throw it away, and pay $10 more for a “better” camera. That’s why addressing these little issues and refining the product is so important. Ultimately we should realise that some people won’t tolerate these issues.

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Very well put. Btw I’m very technically inclined and I still won’t put up with these issues. Wyze has my money for a product THEY said would function a certain way. Why am I the bad guy to expect it to perform the way THEY said it would? Now if I was complaining about features they never said the device was capable of then yes I’m to blame. But to complain or voice my displeasure about a device not working properly should be taken seriously. Instead you get “what do you expect for $20?” We’ll for one I expect what they promised it’d do for $20. Nothing more. And unfortunately they’ve fallen short on recently launched products and instead of slowing down and fixing those issues they plan to release even more products with undoubtedly more issues.

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I totally agree with Daniel. My Wyze setup is active but not my primary security system. Why, because of the same issues outlined by Daniel. Sensor contacts not reliable…report issues sometimes 10 - 15 minutes after an event (and yes, yes, yes, I have GREAT WiFi service / connectivity). My Cameras will sometimes NOT capture movement, even if it is happening directly in front of the device.

Wyze is great for the price (you get what you pay for) and hopefully will be around for the future. But, they have to improve their reliability to become a “go-to” home security system.

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I know the mantra is “never look back” or whatever, but fug it, it has value. Click the pic to get a full, chronological dose of OP @Daniel_SA and his interaction with others on the thread:

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I disagree with you. I’m aligned with @WyzeJasonJ on this point.

I have to disagree about the point I bolded in your quote. Even if we don’t count Amazon as mainstream, Wyze has had physical product in Home Depot for a full year. Starting with a camera. And only a camera. (Are they carrying more things since?)

In that Wyze sells “cheap tools”, I look at them a bit like like Harbor Freight. Will I buy Harbor Freight’s Dingbot cordless drill instead of a Makita at five times the price? Yes, I will and have.

Do I expect it to perform at the same level and for as long as the premium brand? No, I don’t.

I walk into Harbor Freight and I tell myself, "Remember, moron, these are disposable tools. Though some categories may be covered by Lifetime Replacement Warranties, will you really bring that broken X back to be replaced by another, or will you just go, “Moron, pay up for a real tool, you’ve got work to do, what’s the value of your down time?

And I think we’re in rough agreement, there: :slight_smile:

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hat_tip2 @brichter re Amazon/HomeDepot

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