AI needs to only detect movement not parked cars etc

I know AI doesn’t care if an object is moving or not. Here’s my scenario. When there is a parked car in my driveway I get vehicle detections when any car goes down the road, tree moves, shadow on the ground. I have all areas where it’s detecting movement ignored but it still sends me vehicle detection all day long. It’s a parked car. Will AI eventually be able to tell if an object is moving and only alert you then? Thanks for any help on this.

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Wyze has this request listed as in progress.

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It seems like this has been “in development” for a long time?

I’ve recently upgraded to CamPlus hoping to reduce the number of notifications I was getting only to find that I’m getting 10x more now.

There’s always a stationary vehicle in my driveway and now every fly, shadow, raindrop triggers a “vehicle” detection.
CamPlus makes it worse because there’s no cooldown or limit on the number of events.
My cameras are triggering hundreds of times an hour at night because of this.

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I guess that depends on what “a long time” means. I believe they started looking into this about a year ago, and I don’t think the prototype was ready for testing until a couple of months ago. I believe it wasn’t updated to “In Progress” until this year. In terms of developing such a complex machine learning feature, I would not call 1 year a long time at all, but it can seem that way to some people without a lot of experience in programming, machine learning, and testing. So I guess a yes or no is relative to one’s level of experience with this sort of thing. I think it’s moving pretty fast, but I am also anxious for it to come out. I have had to disable vehicle detections on some of my cams so they would stop notifying me about parked cars.

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Ok, well now it’s been over three years. Has this been fixed yet? I’m going crazy with the notifications of a park vehicle in my driveway that has been there for days! Please make it stop!

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It’s already fixed. The only times I get a vehicle event now is when the car is moved, or when another object movement (like a pet) triggered a search of the whole frame.

I no longer get a series of vehicle events from a parked car in the garage.

It’s not fixed, just because it works for you. I’m still getting the issue as are other people on the forums. How can you say it’s fixed? I’m on the latest update and I still have the issue.

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I thought they announced in a recent newsletter that they released the update to the rest of the cameras so that vehicle detection would only send a notification if either vehicle is moving, or another AI detection was present in the event.

So, I think the way it’s supposed to work now is like this:

If there is a parked car, and a tree branch triggers motion, it will still TAG that there was a vehicle in the event, but it won’t send a notification.
If there is a parked car and a CAT (or a person) walks by the camera (and you have pet or person detection turned on), then it will notify you of the pet and the Vehicle, even though the vehicle isn’t moving.
If a vehicle drives by, it will notify of the vehicle.

But it is supposed to still detect and tag parked vehicles, just not send a notification for them unless it’s moving or there is another AI detection involved.

I happen to see an event that was tagged as vehicle. That car was parked there the whole night. Upon closer inspection, however, there was a cat right beside one of the front tires and stalking something, probably a rat. For some reason, it wasn’t tagged as a pet.

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But it sent you a notification that a car was there and not a pet? So if anything else moves in the view, but it doesn’t tag a pet or person or package, etc. then it still sends you a notification of a vehicle, and not anything else? There are a lot of birds in our area that don’t trigger the notifications, but if a car is parked nearby, then I’ll get a vehicle notification because of the bird? Doesn’t that seem just as bad as notifying of a parked car?

The event was only tagged as “vehicle”. Only when I played the event did I see the cat.

I don’t think “bird” now included as a recognizable AI object. Or is it now included in the “pet” class?

Honestly I don’t get birds tagged as pets, but I still get moving shadows and branches tagged as “human” (although infrequently). I’m sure a bird can trigger AI detection if a shadow and branch still can (or a cat for that matter). I’ve updated my firmware on all cameras, and I turned down sensitivity. I’d be happy to show Wyze my files if it helps. (I’ve posted this on a few threads here and on Reddit.)

OK, after observing my results over a period of several days, I find I need to revise my previous post. Previously, I stated that a parked car is only tagged if another AI object is detected. Not so.

I happen to put up a flag, and it’s visible from a camera, that watches over a parked car. That flag is causing vehicle events many times a day now.

Yeah, my understanding is that the way it is setup now is that it should almost detect and tag vehicle if a a vehicle is in the frame, even if it’s parked. BUT, what it shouldn’t do now, is send a NOTIFICATION for a parked vehicle unless there is also another AI object detected in addition to the parked car.

So all your events should still get labeled as vehicle, but you won’t get a Vehicle notification unless there is a moving car or another AI object in frame.

I wish they would do like they have been doing with packages. They’ve started having some VDB’s be able to tell the difference between Package dropped off, vs package picked up, vs package just sitting there. I think they should train differences on vehicles too. I mean, the new method they use is better than getting constant notifications for parked cars, but it would be better if they just trained it to tell when the vehicle changes pixel locations between 2 frames and know that means it’s a moving vehicle. They’re already analyzing multiple frames in an event, so what’s the harm in comparing 2 of them against each other to know if the object moved or not?

In my experience it is mostly like this.
Except if the motion occurs in front of or close to a vehicle.

I guess this is kind of correct, e.g. if a ball hits my car I’d like to be informed but most often it’s an insect or shadow which causes this which can be annoying.

Still from my side, it’s quite ok for the price point of these camera

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NBD Filter that comes with Cam Unlimited Pro solves this.

It removes repetition in events. I have the driveway/parked car/busy road scenario.

Best thing Wyze has ever come up with. Very slick.

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So they have the tech, but they only offer it to a Pro subscription? Not even the lowly Plus subscribers can have it?

Yes. Because A.I. agents and the processing costs money. So you have to pay $200 a year for the Unlimited Pro subscription.

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I’m hoping the tech gets cheaper so the lower tier plans can get the feature. It is REALLY nice. I’m happy to fund the tech to keep it going. It’s VERY helpful for notifications. I can’t say this enough.

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