Wyze gift cards are useless - don't accept them as refunds

@Jiamor will you let me know if you still don’t have the gift card by tomorrow? I have heard back from my escalation that this is definitely being resolved for you (and I have full confidence in the person who helped looked into this) and I just want to make sure I am not making assumptions about whether you saw it or not.

Let me know if I need to go push some more buttons for you or not. :slight_smile: Sorry it took so long. There were some unrelated extenuating circumstances that caused it to take a little longer than normal, but I have been continually following up until I was sure it finally got where we needed it to. Please let me know when you know so I can get some closure on my efforts. :joy:

Hi Carverofchoice

No sign of those gift cards yet.
I do appreciate that this chat exists, and that you have volunteered to help.

All the workers at Wyze have been extremely nice, but I have yet to see any of their promises actually manifest. I do hope this isn’t your experience? We are well past the “10 working days” originally promised, and I have emptied my cart.

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Thanks. I will go push back some more. :+1:

Yea I had a Waze Pan Cam v3 quite working. The problem is their is no sealing at the plug but the claim its IP65 rating. Moisture gets in their and corrodes the connection, both on the connection and USB cable. Completely unacceptable. I have v2 cams in aftermarket cases and the still work. But the camera that is designed for outdoor use doesn’t. I had a other can fail because of their firmware and they did nothing to rectify it saying its out of warranty. The firmware they sent me didn’t work. I had to beg them for it. Eventually they released one on their site and guess what, I got the cam working again. Instead of helping they wanted me to buy a new camera. Well guess what, I did but it wasn’t a Wyze. But now this cam fails and they send me a gift card that doesn’t cover the tax and shipping. Not only that, the gift card said expired. I purchased it on Amazon because I already pay for prime to get no cost shipping. I could go to the store and purchase it and not pay shipping. But now I have to pay shipping and tax again? This is unacceptable. The sell the camera on Amazon for $36 now. But their page its more. This isn’t right. I just want the camera replaced not pay more for it. I would rather by the other brand for less and have allot better camera if I have to pay for it. But pay over 25% of the cost to replace their defective camera is insane.

Hi Carverofchoice ~

Still no word from Wyze. Is there anything else I can do?

Following up again. Please know you’re not annoying me. I want to help get this resolved. Keep me updated, whether in here or DMs. I’m advocating for resolution and will continue to help to the extent I am able.

I’m told the person in charge of this should be working tomorrow and I’ll set a reminder to have someone ask them again what to do since the email they tried to send it to before didn’t arrive to you for whatever reason.

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Amazon and other companies generally can be very sensitive about use of any gift cards,
I tried to purchase once Google play card and almost immediately they suspended my account.
All echos, firestick they just stopped working literally in seconds got remotely reset to factory settings.
Could be you are Russian or perhaps have some Russian friends?

Hi Carverofchoice ~

I don’t believe Wyze ever sent anything, and that the workers they hire think their promises actually mean something. This issue is now over 3 months old, and this forum shows it is just 1 of many where Wyze simply lies over and over.

The fact that I am still pushing is a sign of insanity, since I keep doing the same thing over and over again and still have some faint hope that the outcome will change.

Today is 3/19/24; Have you ever seen Wyze actually follow through on one of their promises Carverofchoice?

Absolutely. Lots. In this case I strongly believe that they did in fact send an email. I don’t know if there was a mistype or something or why else you didn’t get it. There could be a number of reasons. I have seen many in my day because in the past I worked in Customer Service for multiple fortune 500 companies, including with training roles, etc.

I can’t speak for how Wyze handles these situations since I don’t work for Wyze and don’t have insight into their policies or system capabilities related to their store credit and partners they leverage, etc. But in my time working for other companies, I have seen many cases like yours where we absolutely sent someone an email 100% (sometimes I PERSONALLY sent it myself for sure) and for some reason the customer didn’t get it. This can be for multiple reasons…and I mean a lot of reasons, but the problem for us was that at least a percentage of people would simply lie about it, particularly when it comes to returns, refunds, or gift cards. In the case of something like gift cards, they would claim they never got it, then once they get a new one, they would use both of them, or sell one of them to someone else so that person potentially gets in trouble for the fraud theft if it is being tracked. Lots of people try to process fake returns of equipment by filling boxes with other stuff. Amazon has this issue constantly, but so does every other company right now.

Fraud is a huge epidemic right now. And the sad thing is that it’s absolutely impossible for a company to know which customer is telling the truth vs which one is lying. All they know for sure is that they sent it. Some customers get it and lie about it and some customers truly don’t get it for some reason. They only know that it was for sure sent out. So now they are faced with a conundrum of how to handle it when it’s impossible to know if the customer honestly can’t find it or is trying to trick people.

You would think that there are simple ways to resolve this. For example, the company should have a system in place to check the balance of the gift card they sent out, and then if it is still unused, they can simply void the gift card and reissue a new one and they don’t lose anything because the old one can never be used now. However, if it was already used, then they can tentatively assume the user received the card and is likely one of the ones trying to commit fraud, and maybe even ban their account or something.

Some companies have implemented stuff like this, but it ends up being a little more complicated than this. For example, if an employee can look up the number of a gift card sent to customer, sometimes the employees write down the giftcard number and use it themselves anonymously online or sell it to someone else to do so before the customer can use it, and then it’s hard to know if it was the customer who did it or an employee or some other explanation. So they can instead encode it in a way that employees don’t have access, but to make a long story short, there are challenges with every option.

Basically, they sent an email with the code, I am fairly confident this is the case. You didn’t get it. Now they’re likely faced with the problem of what to do about it now. I don’t know what their technical options are with their store credit partners or other things since I don’t work for them, but having worked for several companies in this type of situation, I know it can be more complicated than most customers think. I believe this is why it is taking so long, and why I am being fairly patient about it, but still persistent. I wish it was more simple, but having been through this on both sides, I know it is complicated. On the one hand, honest customers, presumably like yourself as I am assuming and why I am advocating for you, still need to be taken care of in the way promised. On the other hand, a company can’t bankrupt themselves by letting everyone commit unfettered fraud against them either. Hopefully the situation can just be escalated up to someone higher up with limited access to void the previous transaction and maybe do something like call you directly and manually speak the code to you to write down so there is 100% confirmation you received it. Something like that. IDK, but something like that is what I’d personally try to do in this situation.

Sorry you’re going through this. I mostly blame all the bad actors who lie and pull this stuff so often that it becomes a headache for the honest ones. And again, I don’t work for Wyze and I don’t know the insides of all their policies or options in these situations. I am somewhat guessing at a lot of these things based solely on my previous experience of handling them myself for other companies in the past. But if I was in your shoes, I would want someone to help make sure things get verified, so I am doing my best to help where I can. I do know someone is absolutely looking into the situation, but since I don’t work for them, I don’t know all the details other than being reassured it’s not being ignored…they just have procedures that need to be followed to resolve it, because my understanding is that they did confirm the email was indeed sent. For whatever reason, you can’t find it/didn’t get it. So now they have to take new measures to resolve that and it can be tricky depending on different variables.

But I absolutely don’t blame you being frustrated. I would be extremely frustrated too in your position. This is why I’m doing what I can for you. Sorry I am a little limited considering I am not an employee myself, but I do have a little credibility and some access to communicate with some employees.

Anyway, hopefully the above gives you an idea of what I believe has made this take longer than normal. From their perspective, they confirmed the email was definitely sent out (they did check) and they aren’t sure why you didn’t get it. That’s the starting point we’re at, but the fact is that you still need it, for whatever reason you didn’t get it. So now I assume they have to figure out what to do from here. They confirmed that they acted in good faith, but now you’re still left with things unresolved.

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Hi Carverofchoice -

Sigh.

“From their perspective, they confirmed the email was definitely sent out (they did check)”

The date they sent “that” email would solve this, since it is going to a gmail account that keeps all the emails. They confirmed with you they sent some email, why didn’t they copy me at that time? When did they confirm this with you? What was that date?

I do not know what date it was originally sent. Since I’m not an employee, most of the information won’t be shared with me.
If I had to guess, the escalated email (that happened after I filled an escalation about your situation) was PROBABLY sent on or around 2/21/24.

Again, I don’t work for or represent Wyze though. You may try reaching out to support and requesting them to see if there are any notes about the status on that previous support ticket number or see if they will send a request for you to be contacted directly about it.

Always buy through Amazon.