I’m a fan of stopping when the sign/signal tells you too. Also of turn indicators. But yeah, you described the “it just turned red” phenomenon.
I don’t mind stop then turn right on a red. Got a ticket for that in Montreal once though (can’t or couldn’t do it back then).
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The original video does have play issues with some browsers. You can download it and play it locally and it should work fine. The Picture in Picture version I posted yesterday is running from YouTube and should play.
Rolling stops are in all metro areas and surrounding suburbs. In some places, the chances of someone turning after a rolling stop in proportional the proximity of an approaching car. In other words when that driver sees you approaching in the rightmost lane THAT’S when they’re going to turn in… the closer the better? Even if there’s no one behind you for miles.
But, truck driver’s lawyer would say, that sign is painted “YELD” and we don’t know how …
/snark
That would be nice. and it would be great if the manufactuers offered it. But why even make a point of commenting that “vehicles should have a dash cam built”, especially you already admit/agree “they would charge a really stupid price”?
Anyone/everyone - today can add a dash cam spending as little as $50 to $450 if/when they desire. Who cares if a manufacturer provides one when (I say again) you can add one, two, three today and have protection.
I mentioned really stupid prices because that is what people pay when they get a factory installed navigation system (Which is a big $$$$$ Option) in their vehicle . They could use a good Garmin at a fraction of the cost. I still think it should at least be an option if the price was reasonable, ****Edit. I just did some checking and there are some new vehicles with built in “Dash Cams” for front back and sides. Subaru, Cadillac, Corvette, Tesla, BMW, Mercedes and Volvo. Many others have all around cams for parking and seeing what is around the vehicle. I haven’t had the need to purchase a new vehicle in 10 years so I need to get with the times. 
**Nothing is inexpensive"
I agree with everything you said. I have one of those cars with built-in dash cams. And all the way around. But I am a firm believer in 'there’s no such animal as too much security or too much dash cam". So, even though mine has front, rear and side dash cam capture - and really well, I added two more Blackvue 2-channel dash cams. One captures front and left side. Another captures rear and right side. And (ya ain’t gonna buy this), another another. I added a Garmin Mini 2 to the right front A pillar inside the car pointing across the car, to me/capturing the full left side - where the cop would be standing. Intent is to make sure I follow my other rule. “Always record the police” - for my protection and theirs.
If cars came with dash cams standard I would tear it out of my new car. Using Wi-Fi and Bluetooth I can hack into OEM cam systems now. Imagine what others could learn about you or use your vehicle to learn about others. There might even be small print somewhere saying the automaker reserves the right to use that system for “research.”
Cams are unnecessary. I mean, why would anyone need an the all-around cam system when self-parking is a thing? I still parallel park using mirrors at an alarming speed… but I can see how self-parking would be helpful when I’m old. By that time the car will drive/fly itself.
Dash cams aside, I’m not even sure why automakers bother making these late-90s-era interfaces in their cars when all they really need is a good screen and a smartphone jack. The phone has everything in a format drivers are familiar with. It would handle entertainment and navigation and through a password-protected OBD2 app would let you know EVERYTHING going on with the car. Add in preventive maintenance and crash data and we’re set! You can jack your phone into any new car. You can get alerts that its being moved or started without you. AND you can upgrade your phone. You can’t upgrade the interface of a post-iPhone BMW 7-series or MB S class. You’re stuck with ancient tech.
How do you think those self-parking systems work? answer: lots of sensors (including cameras).
Good God NO!!!
OK, my normal ride is my 2003 pickup so it pre-dates screen displays, but the rental I am driving while the truck is in the shop is a fairly new car and has the central screen that handles the sound and I would assume navigation if that option was included (I don’t need it). Please don’t replace that with a comparatively tiny phone screen, that I would now be FORCED to pull off my belt every time I get in and out of the car. And I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but contrary to the opinion of most younger people, not everyone carries a smart phone.
I’m sorry, I must have been asleep with suddenly every car and every driver from newest to those 20/30+ years old were automatically upgraded to self-driving, In the meantime its the idiot drivers/passengers that back into your car, slam there door into the side of yours that make the camera necessary.
But cameras are not only for parking protection. Just go to YouTube and search dash cam. Dash cams are not the cause of the problem, they are simply the undeniable testimony of what idiots are doing to each other. Its protection so those with dash cams are not held accountable for the reckless actions of bad drivers.
Want to move safety forward? Ban from the car that darn smartphone you talked about, We drove cars for 100 years without smartphones. We can live without them. There’s these days as many people killed or in accidents from cellphone distracted drivers as drunk drivers. I have no mount for a cell phone in my car. The cellphone stays in my pocket. I don’t check it, use if for directions or take a call while driving. Never.
California’s Best (From my old dash cam) The good one is in my truck.
What red light and in a construction zone
That’s the fallacy: cameras don’t provide any protection. They are after-the-fact. In carparks, they’re useless. It costs more to go after someone for a dent than it is to fix the dent. (Unless you’re retired and bored.)
I watch the crash videos on YT all the time. Highly entertaining. Mostly, from the dash-cammers who can totally avoid a collision but seem to prefer the crash so they can tell the other driver, “I have you on video.”
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I agree about better laws, it should be laws on distracted driving. Too many people are extremly careless.
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Back to the original post, I am not a huge fan of autonomous cars but given the fact that more and more people are stupid when it comes to driving having a computer handle it is a safer looking option.
I just hope the AI doesn’t become self aware and think us humans need to be eradicated.
Beware of Skynet!
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I too watch those YT crash videos. Its a very good reminder how dangerous it is and keeps getting worse. Seeing someone else’s view before a crash re-enforces for me to remember to not take traffic line openings for granted, to watch out for those blind spots hidden by a F150/Silverado at a parking lot entrance, shortcuts people take making turns and worse of all - those folks looking at their phones instead of the highway.
I have no phone holder mounted in my car. My phone stays in my jeans, and is hard to remove while seated. That eliminates my temptation to look at it. I drove for 40+ years without being able to talk on the phone. There’s nothing that can’t keep until I get where I am going and get out of the car. Call me old-fashioned, and call me not in a wreck either.
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Anyway, you only need one law and many places do this. “Driving without due care and attention” is all you need.
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Sensors, not cameras. The cameras are there for drivers. The car’s computer system cannot recognize objects on camera. The so-called “A.I.” used by Wyze is just a team of coders who inspect images, identify “shapes” on the video, and add it to a database. Without their servers Wyze “A.I.” doesn’t work. Cars (excluding Tesla, maybe) don’t have a continuous link to a server (unless you pay for it) so that its parking system can upload an image that might be a hydrant or human legs or an open manhole. Cars rely on proximity sensors. Maybe Lidar in the future but that ain’t cheap.
The big screen IS the distraction. A phone screen would just show basic info when needed. The typical 6"-7" screen keeps your eyes off the road. If you need proof as any soccer mom who uses that screen size to distract all humans sitting behind her.
