Would you accept ads for Free Cam Plus Lite or Cam Plus?

Gotta ask…how many CamPlus Lite users are there? If Wyze isn’t making money from paid user subscriptions for CamPlus, Unlimited, Pro and HMS, I think they may be looking in the wrong place to increase revenue.

From what I understand, the point of this isn’t for increasing revenue as much as it is offering more to more people without losing revenue by offering something with ongoing costs to everyone without offsetting that cost somehow.

Yes, they could subsidize free CPLite to everybody by making Cam Plus users pay for it, but that’s not really fair to the subscribers having to pay more to cover the cost of the free-loaders. It makes more sense to give people an alternative way to cover their own costs than ask someone else to pay for them instead. I think this is a fair way to do it…allow people to pick if they 1) Want to pay for it with a subscription 2) Want to pay for it with ads 3) not have the cloud features at all. With those 3 choices I think it’s a lot more fair. The question is whether it sticks to staying at just enough to cover the cloud costs or if it goes on a slippery slope to expand to add a little more revenue than necessary (more ads than needed to cover the costs) or expanding to paywall more and more things that aren’t necessary to be paywalled.

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Are you sure about the above statement? No one gives anything for free. I think Wyze believes by giving this option they will make money. Don’y forget, it will cost them money just to code the app to allow for this “feature”.

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Advertising comes in I go out.
I pay for Cam Plus not advertising.
Just exposing more info to more options for data hacking, security issues, server breeches.

Been with Wyze since 1st PanCam love my “band” that still works (not your watch but the original band) but sincerly looking to move on, this may just make the decision easier for me.

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No,

I’m tired of companies using a “paid” service (either subscription or one time purchase" to sneak in their marketing messages.

I primarily use 2 apps on a daily basis.

Life 360-is starting to irritate me. On the driving screen they have started to put in a floating ad that cannot be swiped away. You have to review the ad to get rid of it. On their latest foray I think enough people complained they quickly pulled it. For $15 a month I do not want, or expect to see an ad. FWIW, I am looking for a replacement.

Wyze is the other biggy. To Wyzes credit from time to time the “Sales” button says “Sale” for a couple of seconds. Although I’m not thrilled with this at least it is minamily invasive. I am not looking to replace Wyze, but more ads may change my mind.

I would be cautious as this proposal adds a level of complexity to Wyze Services. Just watching the cam lite vs cam plus confusion on this forum says go cautiously.

I agree with @carverofchoice that there are many reasons not to do this. I’m in the camp of:

To the marketers of Wyze and Life 360. Be very careful that you are not alienating paying customers. And we all know how much a new customer cost vs an existing customer

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A few thoughts

Normally, I woud accept ad banners as an “end user”

Here is the issues I see

  • Ad Banners eat up badwidth.
    Since Wyze Cam bandwidth usage can vary, depending upon a few factors, cam resolution High or Low, among other things that eat some bandwidth depending upon end user app settings.

  • Ad Banners introduce a new path for hackers. Meaning if they can infect/hack ad banner links, they can gain access to the Wyze App /User Devices

Only way to reduce or elminate those risks, is to have the Client Ad’s pushed directly from Wyze Servers, and NO links feed, from 3rd party ad clients.

(Maybe have the Client Ad’s ONLY popup, when the Wyze App is started, but before it logs the End User in. (This keeps User Secrutiy seperate/and more secure)

  • The ad’s also would have to be small, ( 1/3rd the size of what you have posted) as the one you had posted is too distracting.

Just my quick 2cents on the topic

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Here is a screenshot of the ad I see once or twice per day. I normally swipe left and little ad at the bottom goes away.

I have Cam Plus Lite and don’t mind a couple of ads per day. I figure it is part of the Wyze business model to want users to consider CamPlus.

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I have no subscriptions and don’t see ads.

Wonder why. Maybe they are subliminal?

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If you are using the Wyze App with no subscription, that is odd you do not see the little ad at the bottom of my screenshot.

Let’s speak softly so not to draw attention of the Wyze Team.

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That is true if they are animated. Static ads would be negligible.

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That ad is a Wyze Cam ad.
I think he was talking about ads from other vendors /business

I haven’t seen those Wyse ad in my app that I can remember

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Thats not true

Static ads, still have PULL down the graphic/ad banner. ( and HTML code) to display, Static ads are less bandwidth, than animated, but they still require newwork connection to the ad servers, and still require bandwidth to download each static add…and the HTML code, that displays it, and directs users to the site, once the ad is clicked on…

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I have a subscription, but only for 1 of my 9 cameras and hald dozen outlet controls.

That probably why I am not seeing the ads.

Also my firewall app, is setup to also block ads, which I wasn’t thinking about before when I commented…But it wouldn’t block Wyze specific ads, only 3rd party ads.

I am trying to speak as softly as I can…
:smile:

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Granted, but I was just pointing out they’re not as bad as animated ones.

That is correct and yes WyzeDave in post #1 was showing ad examples for Home Depot.

Just posting the ad I am seeing already in Lite for further discussion of ads in apps.

Overall I think if the ads are as small as the one you had posted, it would be tollerable for everyone…But it they are 3x 4x larger, that would be very distracting I think for many people.

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That’s a pretty poor choice of wording. Free is the price Wyze offered to original purchasers of the cameras. CamPlus Lite was offered as a way to replace a free service included in the price of the cameras, allegedly.

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That is funny, but I am not offended. :grinning: :moneybag:

I don’t disagree that freeloader may not be the right word, but how else could it be phrased?

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