Wow. I just saw your frog pic. That is scary, but I like the idea someone thought of that design.
That’s me. Itchy allergy eyes make me want to close them and sleep, and so do some of the drugs used to treat them. Mr. Heller probably had a name for situations like that. 
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I wondered about that one, too, when I typed it earlier. 
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Catch-22, also known as Tool Number 1 in the Narcissist’s toolkit/playbook.
OK, maybe it’s not really number 1…but I am dealing with a mixed covert/antagonistic narcissist in a business related context and it is…not fun trying to get anything accomplished. The gaslighting is insane.
Bummer. I hope that resolves well and soon.
Meh, NPD is one of the few Personality Disorders that is considered incurable because they aren’t really capable of self-reflection, so the issue will likely be there long term. Thankfully I have a degree in Psychology and Sociology and am becoming an expert on NPD and managing people with it, so it’s workable. There are plenty of good strategies to mitigate it reasonably well. It can just take some time to get some of them in place. For some critical things like negotiating an operating agreement it can require setting up high stakes negotiations in order to get the necessary leverage and playing the long game. AI is coming in handy too. I have an extremely detailed AI prompt to help me plan out strategies and negotiate things in context of the NPD OCPD stuff. It’s been an invaluable tool in mitigating gaslighting and potential catch-22 manipulations, etc. things will be fine long term, but combatting an NPD is mentally and emotionally exhausting/draining even with great progress.
I wonder what degrees the people here hold. Must be very varied.
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