Not necessarily. It works fine on the Tiny Cam App streaming several Wyze cams all at once. I regularly stream 9 cameras at a time, and sometimes I have done many more than that on the same screen with no problems on my various cell phones, including something as old as a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 (itās going on 7 years old now and still streams 9+ cams fine), or my pixel 5 or pixel 8 Pro.
However, that may not work as well for some users, particularly when away from home using daisy-chained cable internet upload limitationsā¦or bad routers (on the other hand I have 1gbps up/down fiber with Ubiquiti routers). So it is certainly safer to limit the number of streams for those who would otherwise have a bad experience and blame Wyze for that.
As I recall, that is sometimes an issue with the WCO Base station. 114.114.114.114 has been widely confirmed online as a fairly benign DNS server often used by Asian Devs during testing because itās easy to remember. Wyze should still get that switched back to a US DNS server ASAP though. Itās actually really terrible that they missed updating this before approving it into the firmware. Wyze needs to get their devs in the habit of using something like Googleās 8:8:8:8 instead if ease of remembering is the reason for it.
I would not say they actively read these forums. WyzeJason does read the Fix-it-Friday threads, and the Wishlists (which he syncs with their internal system status). The rest is hit-and-miss and not necessarily active. For the most part, they leave the forums as a place for user-to-user interaction and expect support or important needs will get logged through official support. For important questions they do an AMA every few months and if enough other people agree it is a high priority question and upvote it, Wyze will give an official response at that time. Everything else is just bonus, but definitely not active.
I guess each app streams differently, compression or something perhaps and can see slow phones with issues, even mine on 5G. But at home on wifi Iām streaming 8 in favorites.
I donāt use the base station, just the Wyze app, floodlight pro, v3 pro, battery pro, and v4. So it is the app I think. Because the blocks happen on the router as soon as the app opens. There are 2 other foreign IPs as well but those are not as common as the 114.114.114.114 address. To add to that with even the blocks happening everything functions fine , so honestly what are those IPs for?
To be fair it got promoted in a thread dedicated to āI do not like the beta versionā so it would mostly be considered a statistically invalid poll/result, but it is still definitely telling Wyze there is a lot of dissatisfaction that needs to be resolved before launch time.
Thats odd, as I had also used Tinycam, and it couldnāt get past a few Wyzecams without the app experiencing issues in being albe to view 4 cams at the same time
I also have Gigabit ethernet & Gigabit FIOS
Overall
The more cams loading up liveview
The more data that is being transmitted at the same time to one device. PC/Tablet/Phone
So the way i see it,
An app can hold as many lives stream views, as it wants, or is designed to hold.
The Choke Points, are the system & performance of the system, wether the app is running on desktop, tablet or phone.
The quality & speed of the wireless network the wireless cams are connected to
your also proving my point
You said you have Gigabit Fiber up & down speed
Your using Ubiquiti routers which are generally higher end routers, and your using a mesh wireless network\ since you have more than one Ubiquti router.
Most people dont have top tier connections or equipment
So the 9 cams you were able to have viewing at the same time, would be cut in half or more, with most other people who do not have Gigabit ethernet, Gig Internet Fiber
Which again to me, all points I mentioned above, qaulity speed of network, speed/performance of device/s
Also, here is the BIG gotcha
Streaming say 10 devices but most of them are not seeing cam activity
Means data load/ network load will be low
Streaming say 10 devices but most of them ARE seeing constant activity
Means data load/ network load will be HIGH
Big difference
so it may work well in some environments, when there is low or no cam activity
But the same setup, in a high/ active Cam environment will cause network & system PC/Tablet/Phone Liew View usage to sky rocket, and most likely stuttering or dropping off of cam views.
I am not disagreeing with most of your points, and wasnāt trying to disprove your point overall, and as I said, I agreed with the overall conclusion above as I said in my last paragraph about that topic how some people might have a bad experience so it is safer for Wyze to limit it. I was agreeing with that.
Though I will say that bandwidth is mostly irrelevant unless you are away from home. The initial authentication handshake is done through the internet, but after that, the camera streams connect peer to peer and if you are on the same network as the cameras, the entire thing is kept 100% local. So if a person only has 1mbps DSL it wouldnāt make any difference at all compared to those of us with 1gbps. Hence why I put that in parenthesis as a sidenote that wasnāt a key point. The main point is the router capabilities, and to some degree the phone as well.
I think the main choke points are #1 the WiFi Router #2 the phone then #3 the bandwidth if away from home.
This can certainly make a difference, though I will say that the ones I am using are high traffic cameras with constant motion, so I donā think this is necessarily a huge impediment considering Wyze does atrocious compression with annoyingly low bitrates. This would be a much bigger problem if they lessened up on their compression and bitrate limitsā¦but they havenāt done this, so it is fairly easy to stream lots of cameras all at once without a problem in my experience.
Quite true at the moment, though I just barely got Ubuquiti a couple of months ago. Before that I was using Wyze routers, and before that I was using 2 ASUS routers, and before that just 1 ASUS router, and before that I used a Netgear router. All of them allowed me me to stream multiple cameras on Tiny Cam all at once. Iāve been doing so since 2020 including at a previous house.
Regardless, donāt misinterpret any of that. I agree that a lot of people struggle to do multiple streams and Wyze has valid concerns about limiting that because if otherwise lots of people would have a bad experience. I am agreeing with you on that point
Same here, have Tinycam on the same phone, loaded 8 cams and its slow in comparison to App3 favorites 8 cams. No detections though. I can see some slowdown but figured theyāre bugs or cache clogging up.
Never really developed a liking for Tinycam myself.
As to systems and hardware, the phones a Samsung S23 Ultra, the mesh is old school, Orbi RBK53, router and 2 access points. 350 down 25up.
Is .o actually a brand new app being developed (from the ground up) in parallel with the existing 2.x base?
A bold experiment made possible by AI development tools able to hold a beyond-complex hybrid together, until 2.0 can be dropped off like the first stage of a star-bound rocket?
And if not, and if Wyze is still earthbound and plodding , will it forever be so or worse due to a design debt approaching critical mass ?
Hereās a bit of gray security meat that may still be edible for those that took that branch above. Things have changed, but may be much the same, and thereās informed staff linked-out to throughout.
Probably a whole new topic is in order if this inspires comment. Thereās a lot of spark and fuel to combust.
I wonder how much of that stands true still, thanks for pointing this out. I may get wireshark going to see where these cameras are reaching out. Glad these cameras donāt cost much because I may dump the bunch and make the jump to unifi.
Information only; Dont shoot the messenger. Theyāre made over there too, China, Vietnam, Taiwan, clouds in Australia I think.
Also its $10 billion dollar company I think and had the same others seeing others cams issue Wyze had.
Fixed last December or similar anyhow. Your decision though. China has nothing to see in my backyard and I lock down router access as good as possible. On the web with a search.
Correct they are made over there but on my unifi dream machine max , it has hard drives to record footage locally only. i still use ring for my front and back doorbell (Wyze doorbell was horrible when I tried it) so thatās really the only live view I would need the rest can go locally.
This post by Frederik is worth reading. He was the Wyze Senior Director of Technology & Services at the time (2019.)
Elsewhere, he spoke about rebuilding the app from scratch and why they had intended to but hadnāt been able to because of overwhelming design debt and being waylaid by covid etc (I think.) If I find it Iāll post it up.
I always found Frederik worth reading, he might be worth a wider browse:
Iāve been doing so since 2020 including at a previous house.
.o actually a brand new app being developed (from the ground up) in parallel with the existing 2.x base?
, will it forever be so or worse due to a 
?
that may still be edible for those that took that branch above. Things have changed, but may be much the same, and thereās informed staff linked-out to throughout.