Paranormal Activity

Look familiar? (BTW…I know what caused this)

Looks like a spiderweb

I agree, looks likes a spiderweb right in front of the camera.

[persephone092470] said “I agree, looks likes a spiderweb right in front of the camera.”

Exactly. So don’t you think that your “light anomaly” was caused be the same thing?

My web was outside on a breezy night. Your “light anomaly” was inside with very little breeze, maybe no breeze. Maybe just movement caused by the spider/whatever was in the web so the “lights” moved slower and more smoothly.

Do you not agree?

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I’m not convinced our videos looks the same. In your video for instance, the lights stay in front of the camera. Mine are flying and move all the way across the room. I also notice that anything right in front of the camera stays light brightly (whether it’s a spider, bug, or dust, or whatever’s in the web). And in my video the lights are more bright when they appear closer to the cam and then are less bright when they appear to be flying across the room.

I still have no clue what caused my video. I’m just commenting on what I notice about its behavior.

I did look at my cam and around it and there are no spider webs. And there was no breeze because the only window in that room is one we keep closed all the time because it goes out to my enclosed patio and I know that spiders get in there. We also don’t have the AC or any fans on at night.

What similarities or differences in our videos do you notice?

re: “I’m not convinced our videos looks the same. In your video for instance, the lights stay in front of the camera. Mine are flying and move all the way across the room.

As most of us know, objects close to our Wyze Cams, especially when operating in IR mode, can appear distorted and the depth of field can be very hard to determine. By that I mean that it is sometime hard to determine how far away from the camera an object is. In addition, most close up objects appear as nothing more than a splash of light because of the reflection of the IR lights back at the lens. I can provide videos of the night vision actually being turned off when an object of sufficient size (such as my cat) passes in front of the lens. The system gets flooded with reflected light and assumes that it is no longer dark. What you are referring to as “light” is actually a physical object, That’s just the nature of IR systems, especially inexpensive ones.

Unless the physical environment is exactly the same for both of us, there is no way for the “anomaly” to look the same. Camera angle, ambient light, air movement, distance/change in distance from the lens of object, such as the web. When an object is very close to the lens, it doesn’t take much of a difference in the distance for the object to suddenly appear to be far away,

Perhaps the following example is a better comparison. Notice how the “lights” now travel all the way to the fence and beyond. Notice how (to use your words) “the lights are more bright when they appear closer to the cam and then are less bright when they appear to be flying across the room (driveway)”. It’s all due to how much reflected light hits the lens.

re: “I did look at my cam and around it and there are no spider webs.

A little bit of research related to common house spiders can explain that. From:

Orb weaving spiders make their webs at night time and usually take them down in the morning.

re: “And there was no breeze

Regardless of whether there is air movement or not, the spider and/ or it’s prey can cause the web to move.

As far as no breeze, let’s test that. Set up some very thin, wispy feathers and point the camera at them. Any movement may or may be enough to trigger motion, so set the camera to record continuously. I will be very surprised if you find that there is absolutely no air movement in that room over the course of an entire evening. It doesn’t take much air movement to move a spider web.

Please do let us know what you find.

That’s what I was looking for, someone who would provide a video very much like mine. Thanks for pointing out to me that what I call “lights” are objects.

This second video of yours does look very much more like mine. So is your spiderweb actually on the camera? Have you seen it in the daylight? Or is it just somewhere out in front of the camera?

And do you know why you have two “sets” of four objects…in other words, do you know what the object is that’s reflecting the light? You also have two smaller objects in the web near the bottom.

So the way they are all moving, it appears that whatever is caught in the web is “flying around” due to the wind outside. In your video it definitely shows more obviously than in mine and now I have a much better idea. Thanks for sharing that.

re: So is your spiderweb actually on the camera? Have you seen it in the daylight? Or is it just somewhere out in front of the camera?

Similar to your situation, when I went to check for the web, it was gone. Either the spider removed it or my cat destroyed it.

I have a 3’ x 3’ lean-to for my cat next to my stoop. The camera is mounted just inside that lean-to, hanging from the underside of the roof so that it is protected from the elements. We’re monitoring a family of raccoons that were getting into our garage through the cat door. Now that we lock it at night, they are not very happy, which makes them fun to watch.

My cat was in the house all night because of the rain, but she went out and into her lean-to before I had a chance to look for the web. All of the events that the web was causing throughout the night stopped after she went into the lean-to so I suspect that she walked through it and destroyed it.

I seriously doubt that the web was on the camera itself. I suspect that it was built across the opening of the lean-to and was located 2" - 3" from where the camera is located. There are other videos where I can actually see some of the strings from the web or perhaps it’s debris that’s caught in the web.

re: “And do you know why you have two “sets” of four objects…in other words, do you know what the object is that’s reflecting the light? You also have two smaller objects in the web near the bottom.”

No, I can’t explain all the objects in the video’s. I’m sure that some of them are actual objects caught the web, but I would not be surprised if some of them are latent visual remnants caused by the motion. If you’ve ever seen videos of a bug flying very near the camera, it often shows as a long streak of “bumpy” white light, like multiple objects following each other very closely. As I said in my previous post, the IR system in these cameras is far from perfect.

If I had to speculate as to the root cause, it could be the fact that the IR lights are positioned in a circle around the lens, If you put a small object close to the lens, the object might reflect 2 or more beams back into the lens, all at different angles, resulting in multiple “images” being captured by the lens.

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in the technology could tell us the real reason why it happens.

It’s like you read my mind. I kept thinking, why does this guy have his camera outside and so low to the ground? :wink: Coons are smart and determined. You better watch out.

re: “*Coons are smart and determined. *”

Only to a certain extent.

I had a video from a couple of years ago (lost now) when I tried various ways of leaving the cat food in the garage but keep the raccoons from getting it. One time I put it up on a table that I thought was tall enough to prevent them from reaching it. The table had a single center leg so they couldn’t climb it to get on the table. 3 of the 4 never even seemed to notice it, and would never have been able to reach it if they had.

Now the 4th guy, the tallest of the group, managed to get just enough of his claws onto the lip of the molding around the table top and swing his back legs up. Once he was on the table, he knocked the cat food off and the family has a feast. Ok, I’ll call him “smart and determined” for figuring that out.

On the other hand, fast forward to this month when, after 4 years of nothing, I realized that “they” were back. (Probably not the same ones, but who knows), Anyway, a few months ago I put a matching cat door in the door into the house so that my cat had free access, in and out. About a week afterwards, I figured out that the raccoons were coming into the garage (dirty or no water in the cat bowl, cat food bowl moved, etc.) However, for some reason, they must not have noticed the cat door into the house. That’s when I put one camera in the garage and one outside to see what was going on.

For the first few nights I brought the food and water inside and locked the cat door into the house, but left the one on the garage door open, I wanted to see what they would do when they found out that there was no longer any free food. Three of them came back for 2 nights, then I was down to just one for a few nights. Each night they explored the entire garage, even climbing up on my workbench, etc. However, they continually walked right past the cat door into the house (and I mean right past it - within inches) and never made a move toward it. I totally expected them to try to open it, but they never did. That makes them not all that smart as far as I can tell. I’m guessing it was probably about 2 weeks of them coming into the garage and never realizing that there was a cat door into the house.

Here’s one video from about 4 years ago of 2 raccoons in the garage. It was taken on an older Amcrest camera and the quality is pretty poor compared to the Wyze cameras. Don’t bother trying to go full screen with it. The first 6:30 is just them eating, kind of boring. Starting at 6:40 is an outdoor scene on the first night that I locked the cat door.

Aw, I feel for them. But I suppose it wouldn’t be good if they got near your cat, they might hurt it, I don’t know.

I put cat food out on my front porch for the neighbor’s cat who is pretty much an outdoor cat by choice. I haven’t seen racoons but I’m pretty darn sure they are the ones who steal her food at night. Twice they’ve stolen her little shiny metal dish. I have a huge backyard and it took me a couple days but I finally found the dish under a tree. I doubt that squirrels did it. I blame the racoons.

All the wildlife that comes around here is the reason why I can’t wait for Wyze to come out with their outdoor cams!! When they do I will be getting at least two. :grinning:

I’m curious as to how the outdoor cams will be set up as far as sensitivity. Using one of the current Wyze cams outdoors, there are nights when I get event notifications every 5 minutes for hours at a time. Flying insects, rain, leaves, light changes, etc will all set it off. The night of the spider web was filled with constant notifications.

I have it set at the lowest sensitivity and I have the detection zone extremely tiny, basically just the size of the cat door that you see in the video I posted in response 86. However, even with the detection zone so small anything that passes between the camera and the cat door sets off a notification. Once that happens, the 5 minute cool down period begins so it is very possible that I am not being notified of raccoon activity during that cool down period. The only way to know would be to watch the SD card, which sometimes records hours of “nothing” (rain, leaves. etc) I would have to watch everything in real time since fast forward is not available yet.

Unless they figure out a way to ignore bugs, leaves and all the other false alarms - or eliminate the 5 minute cool down period - an outdoor Wyze camera may not be the best choice for capturing wildlife events.

I know its been talked about the outdoor cam using a PIR sensor for detection. so it would only begin recording if something was emitting heat. ( animal, car, alien, werewolf, deer, bear, wild boar, human) types of things. to my knowledge that was what they were going to go with to cut down on the false alerts. but so far nothing official in writing released.

Huh, yeah that would be annoying.

On that topic, in the case with my “light anomaly” video, I checked the SD card before and after that footage and there was nothing. The thing flew into the frame and flew onward and out of sight. Nothing else to see in the cool-down period after that.

Aliens and werewolves, LOL

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well…they do emit heat…just saying…everyone knows there’s no such thing as a cold blooded werewolf…and aliens…well lets just say I’m unable to comment further. :snowman::alien:

did we learn nothing from the x-files? :wink:

:astonished: A believer, cool! I don’t need any werewolf vids, I’m good there :grimacing:. But an alien would be cool :smirk:

Yeah X-Files was awesome.

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I am enjoying the interesting photos and videos.
I have quite a bit of spirit orb activity at the top of my stair case every day. Caught on my Wyze security camera. I will download some videos
But am not allowed to do that, at this time, as a new member.

Try it now. :slight_smile:

I think the knock sound is a glitch with Wyze. I have one in the unoccupied house of my mother in law that records the exact same sound that’s in the first videos on this thread. I mean exact same sound. It is hard to believe that my camera has the exact same sound that someone else’s camera picked up and its source is paranormal. It’s got to be something with the Wyze camera. One interesting note: She has a pergo type floor where the camera is set up. My wife was at the house and I was watching it live stream I called my wife to get her and try and duplicate the type of sound. When she stomped her heel on the floor it made a very similar if not identical sound that the Wyze camera records randomly