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“By entering the firearm market, Wyze is supporting gun ownership, no matter what stance they may want to project otherwise”
Translation: Acting Constitutionally, in a free market society.
That alone makes me support them even more.
This company can’t fix major issues on their flagship products (buggy unreliable cams have hundreds of complaints over many years).
Instead of humility we get surprise changes to Cam Plus “Lite” that required user intervention for your SECURITY CAMERA to work as it did immediately prior to the update… and a GUN SAFE?!
Trust Wyze with your lives?! Yeah right! As if.
Did you toddler gain access your gun? Maybe you didn’t change the little check box in last week’s Gun Safe Lite Plus update.
Oh the safe didn’t open before you got raped? Please check the firmware is running the latest version!
It’s also “Constitutional” to oppose gun ownership and companies that profit from selling guns.
But the real question is why you would trust a Wyze v1 product to keep your gun safe, and/or accessible in a hurry?
Go read the reviews for their light bulbs. If they can’t get LIGHTS to turn on and off consistently…
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Gun safes need to work reliably. Wyze products do not work reliably. That’s why Wyze camera customers had to go change settings this week to keep their cams working the way they did before the update. That’s why Wyze customer service troubleshooting always starts with a check for the latest and greatest firmware updates.
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Wyze knows that kids often have access to their parent’s phones and can unlock it, right?
I’m sure lots of kids grab a parents phone to control Wyze cams or lights.
Parents reuse passwords and pin codes all the time. Lots of kids have figured that out too.
So what kind of security does the WYZE app unlock the gun safe feature have?!
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There is a four to eight digit code required to access the gun safe section of the Wyze app. This code is not optional; it must be set up and used for access.
They don’t sell firearms. They don’t advocate gun use. And I’d rather homeowners have a safe for their firearms than not. I’m not a firearm owner, and I don’t ever expect to. [mod edit]
And I have a safe, similar to this one. I use it to store sex toys and marijuana to keep it out of the kids’ hands. They can be used for more than guns. But I agree with several other posts, they should likely rename to a more non-confrontational name (“Wyze Safe”). Had they just named it Wyze Safe we wouldn’t be happening this conversation now.
My cameras work fine. Haven’t changed anything.
Clearly, it is for gun safety. If you do not understand that, you should not use cameras that are also intended for safety. It is really disturbing to see comments that attack anyone or any company that cares about safety. [mod edit]
As others have said, Send a couple to the Lock Picking Lawyer. His endorsement would be worth a great deal and you will look like fools when he opens it with a scrap of pop can or a spoon. Unlike your other products this one seems vastly overpriced. You have to remember that a box like that will never achieve a destructive entry rating. (Maybe 30 seconds tops)
One of the common vulnerabilities in these types of safes is using a tool to press the programming button while the lid is closed. Does the Wyze safe have an protection against this? If not maybe version 2 could add a lid open/closed switch that disables the programming button and maybe also logs when the safe is opened and closed.
I am not aware if the pairing button is disabled with the lid closed, nor if there is any way that a tool could be slipped inside to press the button. However, as described in the specs and the video above, all openings and closings are logged in the Wyze app.
Yes, the safe is protected against that vulnerability. The app-to-safe setup and the safe’s biometric and keypad entry features can only be setup via app tied to an account. This setup process must be initiated via reset button. The reset button is located on the interior of the front wall at the bottom of the safe, facing the back wall and recessed making it impossible to reach from the exterior via wire hacking due to lid-to-case design. Nothing is 100% impenetrable given time, tools and determination. But this safe is very well designed and equipped when compared to other safes on the market of similar size. Add app features and price to the comparison you’ll see why Wyze achieved their goal of “disrupting the market” with this product.
OMG! You need a new video. The guy in the top video just slid the safe under a table, without any cable. 
Not that a cable offers much additional security. A thief would just take the whole safe home and open it there.
The Technology might be a cool academic thing to work on. But from a security point of view, about the only thing a small safe like this accomplishes is:
I bet I could give any handgun safe in this class, to my 10 year old granddaughter and she could break into it in less than 5 minutes. Unless that top is 6 gauge armor plate steel, it will bend like a tin can, with only a small pry bar.
I never understood why someone doesn’t make a small key safe, with 1/4" armor plate steel all around. It would be heavy but would also offer more protection than any similar 14 guage metal safe, guarded with technology. I’d buy a 1/4" armor plate handgun safe, in a minute.
Considering what these are meant for, and who they actually keep out, I really don’t understand what all the technology of biometrics and apps adds, that a key doesn’t provide. I guarantee that it slows down the owner, more than it will prevent someone from getting into it.
I think I might be more inclined to buy one, for a cash storage device, and then put it in my 1000 pound safe, bolted to a concrete floor, that would take a professional burgler 2 hours to break into. But my big safe cost $8000, so I guess this is a bargain.
Seriously, I do have a biometric handgun safe, right by the sofa, on a coffee table. But I can’t remember the last time, it held a firearm. I keep extra mags and bullets and keys in that safe. I’ve had firearms for over 60 years, and never found the need for a handgun safe, other than keep children from accessing a handgun I need nearby.
Good luck
You can’t judge a book by its cover … or so I’m told. Probably can’t judge a book by a brief video, either. (FYI, I, too, have several small and large gun safes as well as numerous weapons … and practice emergency drills with my wife. )
Personally, I’m on the sidelines, waiting for actual reviews to come in before I trust this safe. (Also, plus one for the Lock Picking Lawyer review).
Does this safe allow remote unlocking? For instance, say my wife is home and I’m not. And she isn’t technically inclined, doesn’t use apps, or biometrics. Can she call me and have me open the safe remotely, using the app?
That is a feature that has me interested. I have had times when I wish I could have my safe unlocked remotely, to allow someone at home to have access to a weapon, without giving them full-time access. In fact, if that is possible, I’m going to buy one for that feature alone.
Maybe Wyze should start offering Alcohol safes, silverware safes, and pencil safes … so irresponsible people don’t drive drunk, get fat or make spelling errors.
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Having seen some REALLY cheaply made safes/lockboxes, it appears pretty obvious to me that Wyze’s safe is a step above those, but to your point until someone gives some hands on analysis, we can’t really know how secure it is from an intro video.
Honestly those cables give a false sense of security. They are trivial to cut. I see them more useful in automobiles where there are fewer solid mounting options and most auto burglars won’t take as much time or come as prepared as a home burglar might (unless they are pros or maybe they’re already inside an enclosed garage where the risk of being seen is lower).
The Wyze safe, as most “real” home safes, comes with bolts to secure it to a floor/wall/furniture or other sturdy fixture, which is quite a bit more difficult to overcome than a cable. Not impossible, but takes more time, tools, noise and/or destruction to remove because you can’t easily get to the attachment points without getting into the safe itself. So lack of a cable doesn’t concern me here. I’m more interested in seeing the results of a direct attack on the mounted safe itself.
