Delivery dude looked fairly confident that he was in the right place. It didn’t take the neighbor too long to determine that he wasn’t.
She should have knocked on your door like my neighbor did to let you know not to shoot her.
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One time I got a package delivered to the house with the red pickup/black Mercedes in the driveway while they were out of town. I knew my neighbor to the right in the blue house was watching their place.
I grab my package and let my neighbor in the blue house know I was getting my mis-delivered package. I always try to do the right thing.
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You guys all live in America Works (as in ‘functions.’)
I live in America Limps (as in ‘struggles.’) 
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Last time someone put some food (Cookies) by my front door the possum “borrowed” a few of them.
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Agreed. I had this happen a few times at my last house. I would knock on their door or ring their doorbell to let them know. In one case, the FedEx guy switched our packages. They gave me my neighbor’s package and gave my neighbor my package.
If we’re going to ask about the legalities though. What this neighbor did is legally, technically trespassing and theft if you decided to press the issue. Even though the package is technically hers and she paid for it, it was currently on your property. You have the right to control who has access to your property, even if the neighbor has good intentions and the package is technically her property. By legal technicality, she has to ask your permission to do that.
The correct legal process for her is to:
- Knock or ring the doorbell and let you know what happened, and ask your permission to retrieve their property (if you refuse, that is your right, and she can either go through the delivery company to resolve it, or potentially contact law enforcement or the courts for proper resolution).
- Leave a note and politely explain the situation to you and ask you to return their order when you are available.
- Contact the delivery company about the misdelivery and provide proof
- Be patient and wait for you to respond
- Consider legal action as a last resort.
Granted, ultimately if either side pressed it to legal matters, there are a lot of potential points of failure either way. Criminally, the officers could refuse to pass the case on to the prosecutor. The prosecutor could refuse to bring it before the court, the judge could refuse to do pretrial or allow anything to proceed, and if jury-worthy, the jury could decide either way. Civil is a little different and more likely, but whether it is justified or not would also be ultimately decided by other people.
What she did may be statutorily illegal by a technicality as it is written, but it’s also possible that others would ultimately rule not to hold her accountable to that technicality.
Regardless of if she would be held accountable or not, she was discourteous. Her disrespect was not justifiable even if her retrieval is permissible. She should have knocked or rang the doorbell, unless it was REALLY late, then it may have been more polite to leave a note instead of waking people up. In that case, I would have at least held the note up to the doorbell, then set it on the porch or the door.
If the delivery guy wasn’t sure it was the right house, they should’ve message the buyer.
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I saw this reported many times, but the poster of the video could be prosecuted in Canada. (Canadians please confirm.)
I don’t agree. My property and my packages.
To some degree, there can be issues in the USA too. In general it may be legal to post videos of a porch pirate as long as no personally identifiable information is posted about the thief, such as their name, address, contact information, etc, because that would excessively violate their privacy rights. One also has to be careful about defamation (making any false or defamatory statements such as accusing of them other crimes they didn’t commit, or other statements that could harm their reputation, etc) because they do still have some privacy rights. One must also be careful not to rise to the level of harassment. Engaging in Online harassment or vigilantism can lead to legal consequence for anyone trying to incite others to harass or threaten the thief.
On the other hand, a lot of privacy rights are considered against the other motives, such as posting a video to try to identify the thief, lead to their arrest and recovery of your stolen property is generally considered reasonable conduct, while some of the previously mentioned actions (retaliation, harassment, defamation, etc) may not be considered reasonable conduct, even in the USA…some of those actions can lead to both criminal and civil actions.
In this case, Crease’s intention isn’t trying to defame or harass anyone. He doesn’t seem to mind that the neighbor reasonably collected their legitimate property, presumably trying not to disturb him in the middle of the night. He’s not posting the lady’s personal or contact information, etc or asking or encouraging anyone to track her down or shame and harass her or violate her other privacy rights. Technically she is in public with no reasonable expectation of complete privacy, so she generally can’t be upset about this video being online. In this case, I’d argue it’s okay, and generally such things are. I just wanted to make the point/case that even in the USA there are still some privacy rights to consider even if someone is 100% guilty of maliciously stealing something off your property (which isn’t really the case here anyway).
But yes, I see your point about how this article implies Canada may have taken this too far to possibly not allow posting videos of obvious thefts under any conditions. Not sure if the article’s implications are all accurate or just indicating that people may be allowed to ask for help identifying someone for police vs doing it for harassment, etc which would technically be illegal in the USA too. 
Necessary Disclaimer: Again, while I may have worked for a law firm in the past, I am not a lawyer, nor giving legal advice, and am just speaking about generalities worth considering. Anyone unsure of the legality of such things should talk to a lawyer about their situation themselves.
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But you did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night? 
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I appreciate the warning (not the “warning shot”). I guess now I know what else to pack when I show up at @ssummerlin’s house in the “Gunshine State”:
I’ve done the same thing with misdelivered postal packages. That just seems like common courtesy.
I understand that you’re gaming it out as an exercise. I chose the title for 
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That’s an interesting approach. I think it might require her to have the awareness that the camera was there. I don’t know if she did or not; she seemed fairly focused on her phone.
In any case, I was posting this for my own amusement. I understand your points, and I can imagine that some people might be (justifiably) upset in similar circumstances, but I’m not.
Also, it was approaching 10 PM, so I’ll postulate that she was likely being courteous by not trying to ring the doorbell, especially since she was picking up immediately after the deliverer made the mistake. No harm done to me, as I see it.
I wouldn’t have even known about this if I hadn’t happened to tap on the THUMBNAIL SHOW feature in Events, which I almost never do. It’s just a fluke that I even know about it in the first place, because I tend to ignore motion events at night (usually triggered by headlight reflections even with an active Detection Zone and Motion Detection Sensitivity dialed down), so this food (I imagine that’s what it was) likely would’ve been taken by one or more four-legged neighbors or still have been on the porch the next morning if the human hadn’t retrieved it when she did. When I showed the footage to my mom, she seemed most impressed by the neighbor having the courtesy to stay off the grass. 
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I was going to say I’m a horrible cut-acrosser but I don’t think I actually am - not on private property, anyway. I love going diagonally across a park block ignoring paths, maybe that’s what I was thinking.
Many decades ago, dichondra was popular around here, now there was a fetishy grass, it seemed to me, quite precious.
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You know your post is 
There are no Lily pads in the picture. 
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Thanks for underlining what I didn’t say. That is funny. Guess I should really buy a firearm to fulfill your fantasies. 
I wasn’t trying to say you should be prosecuted. I was just pointing out we live in a clown world where the criminals have more rights than you do.
Sorry if you were offended by my gun humor. My sarcasm is often strong.
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First of all…
I wasn’t offended at all! I was just crackin’ Wyzewise. If I mistakenly gave the impression that I was offended, then I offer you my apology.
Whether you do or not is your own decision. I recommend a try-before-you-buy approach, and many ranges offer that, as well as instruction. Education and safety are key.
Nah, just jokin’ around a bit.
Sounds good my friend.
I first shot a .45 in a US Navy bootcamp back in 1979. The second time I shot a gun was at a gun range in 2023.
I will definitely take a firearm course and a conceal to carry course before I purchase a gun. Owning is a serious matter. With crime increasing, ownership has crossed my mind.
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Now, I’m sort of offended…
Mask-up, it’s spreading!!!
A Gen X neighbor who had to resort to an AI Employment Consultant to game the AI of prospective employers employing AI to screen applicants to get any kind of response (he snagged a LIVE INTERVIEW AND GOT THE JOB!!) who said when I said ugh AI what a sinkhole and he said I know me too but if you lived in a town where everybody was carrying you’d be smart to carry too and I think I just passed out at that point and they took me away on a stretcher…
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awakened later to find a dog-eared copy of Robert A. Heinlein’s Beyond This Horizon lying on his chest, a bookmark directing him to a highlighted quote: “…an armed society is a polite society….” [1]
Don’t blame me: I haven’t actually read that one. Job: A Comedy of Justice, however, is laugh-out-loud funny. ↩︎
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I’d prefer what she did and simply retrieved the misdelivery without going and ringing my doorbell in the middle of the night and creating a disturbance unnecessarily.
If I happened to be expecting my own food delivery at that time and this happened coincidentally, then I might be upset momentarily, but since I never have food delivered, that’d be unlikely.
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Unfortunately, that is true.
That is completely true and nowhere more true than in Canada. There was a case where the intruder got stabbed in the behind by the homeowner and got sued for bodily harm. The intruder won the case.
Canada has some pretty weird laws. Even pepper spray is illegal in Canada. The only legal spray is Bear Spray and only you can carry that in bear country. 
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