Issue with TinyCam pro

That would presumably be the ownCloud/Nextcloud option? Haven’t tried it but it looks simple enough provided it auto-selects the camera.xml file. I honestly never realized that option existed! Seems like the way to go among the various generations of Fire devices – which, btw, do not offer Google based storage options, but rather MS OneDrive. My post above was from my experience with one of my AndroidTV devices. Oddly, the Android device also fails to save locally claiming ‘no app available to perform this function’.

I did just try saving locally out of curiosity with a Gen 2 or 3 Firestick. It worked fine once I figured out the navigation structure for the options. Not exactly intuitive, but simple once you become familiar with the flow. One major issue is how faint the item areas are as you navigate certain selections.

I also just tried saving locally on a 4K Max with zero luck as the poster above seems to be experiencing. The ‘Save’ button is simply not reachable to execute the function. It’s there. You just can’t navigate to it. The cloud option function looks normal but I didn’t try it. May be some info on Reddit. The developer is fairly active there and responsive to such issues.

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My problem is that it is on a Fire TV 4k (from 2022 without Netflix buttons). No matter what I do via the normal way, nothing arrives in the cloud. But I can’t be logged in there in parallel either. Hold Fire TV stick. I use Nextcloud, there I also have all the rights.
The export on the cell phone is possible locally.

If I start the local export on the Fire TV, I can through all folders and also get displayed that a file cameras.xml should be saved, but the “Save” button is not accessible.

Does anyone know if the cameras.xml can also be found somewhere locally via a file browser? Then I would only have to copy.

On the smartphone the way works perfectly. But also not in Nextcloud, but I have tried other clouds, none works, even when I am logged in.

In an older version, it all still worked on the device. But I don’t know if it’s because of the update from tinyCam or from Fire TV. Maybe someone here could test on his Fire TV 4k if it works locally for him and if he can reach the “save button”?

Actually, I just want to install the update, but I’m afraid that my camera settings are reset afterwards.

I have already written to the developer, with exact error analysis and also already tried to reach him. Somehow I can not get through to him.

As just posted above, I tried several minutes ago and experienced the same issue.

FWIW, upgrading should not affect your existing settings.

Are you using the paid Pro version?

Our threads have probably overlapped :slight_smile:

I use the pro version, sure. Even bought twice because once on Android and once on Amazon.

Anyone having issues where tinycam only updates my camera every 2 seconds? Watching the time stamp, it jumps 2 seconds and is not a smooth stream.

I just checked TCPro. 20+ cams. I view them in a 3 at a time page. They are all streaming in real time without skipping.

How many are you trying to load? Is your ISP speed sufficient?

Is this something that just started?

It’s been going on for quite awhile. ISP is 300mbps. Running RTSP on version 1 cam, just one camera. Sending feed to actiontiles dashboard

I am receiving almost 20 fps, but displaying only .3

Nope. Sorry. I’m not going to be any help. I’m running production and Beta FW on V3, V3Pro, PanV1, PanV3, and VDBv1 and viewing in TCP.

The destination processing power and resolution typically have as much or more to do with smooth streaming than does the available bandwidth for TinyCam. Realtime streams from TinyCam are also the exception, not the rule in general-- even on robust isolated LANs.

Run the same stream through VLC player and you will immediately notice a significant difference in actual frame and bit rates compared to the shortcomings inherent in the TCP platform – which I still use and love anyway, so don’t get me wrong! Just offering a real world perspective to perhaps temper unrealistic expectations.

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I feel that a Fire HD 8 8th Gen should have enough processing power. Its a consistent lag of 2 seconds, not random seconds which is weird

The Fire HD shoud be adequate.

Lots of variables to consider between the camera lens and the display. 2 second latency with a 50% frame drop rate is not unusual depending on the network environment and the actual HP of your Fire device.

Go here. Plenty of additional information that should be helpful.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tinycam/

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Hi pagesmit,
I believed you once and just did the update.
Result:
All cameras and settings gone. The update has deleted everything. Now of course I have nothing more. I have already recovered 10 of 35 cameras since Saturday.
Just for your information. :slight_smile:

Is it somehow possible to reach the developer? There must be a solution for pro customers.

My sincere apologies. The advice provided was relayed from another source.

Simply upgrading an app or device typically retains existing settings unless specific advice to the contrary is provided. That said, it is always advisable to back up important content when doing any upgrade to any device or software – which I also realize was your dilemma.

The developer is occasionally active at the Reddit link I previously posted along with a much greater degree of public support than is available here.

Again, I’m sorry for contributing to your difficulty.

This may be a longshot, but I’ve heard of ‘synching’ your devices via Amazon to recover lost settings. I think it may have even been on Reddit.

You can mimic the dual-view wide angle & zoomed feature of two OG cams by:

  • Running both the Wyze and tinyCam apps simultaneously
  • Streaming the same cam in both apps
  • Using Android 10+ ‘split-screen’ capacity to view both apps live simultaneously
  • Zooming-in on the tinyCam instance (it has greater max software zoom plus it ‘coasts’ when moving the focus of the zoomed image)

also

  • Displaying cams 2- to 4-up in tinyCam while viewing a single cam in Wyze
    (tinyCam has better/more-flexible group viewing options and performance)

Another application I’ve found useful:

  • Displaying the Wyze app home page to toggle a device (bulb, plug etc) while
  • Viewing a cam live in tinyCam to monitor the effect

Can’t be done with the Wyze app alone. :slight_smile:

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Am I the only one jarred when the @peepeep posts such a useful and straightforward message? :wink:

Nice ideas.

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Hey, thanks pal!   :frog:

What type of display is being used for this?

Phone.
6.2" 18:9 1,520 x 720 LCD
Qualcomm Snapdragon 632 CPU

FYI

tinyCam Pro v17 now in beta may require Android 9+ (up from 7+).

https://www.reddit.com/r/tinycam/comments/14xpfcl/recording_video_to_sd_card/

It installs and runs fine on Android 10 phone, but only installs, will not run, on Bluestacks 5 (emulating Android 7.)


It also adds a grid of six to these:


tinyCam is generally better than the Wyze app at streaming cam groups steadily. Alex the dev noted way back that Wyze cams struggle to display more than 3-4 streams at a time. implying some innate limitation.

The multi-cam display interface is feature-rich and well designed. It’s stable.

You owe it to yourself to try the free version at least (Android only.)


Tip:

If you’re having trouble streaming a 3-4 cam layout steadily, drop down to 2-up and cycle through all your cams (swipe!) letting them establish steady streams. If you have lots of cams, you can even automate the group cycling with the adjustable ‘sequence’ timer.

Then return to a 3-4 layout. Performance usually improves. :slight_smile:

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