Has anybody used friendly faces to unlock the palm door look?

Was trying to use the friendly face app to unlock the palm door lock when it sees my face. I don’t have the plus account in order to do this. But I don’t want to spend the $129.00 for the upgrade if it isn’t going to work

I am using the video doorbell pro. And I know it seems a little stupid worried about the price of the upgrade of $129 when I just spent that same amount for the palm lock . I don’t mind paying for something, I just hate the monthly or yearly charge “They” ( as in every company) charge you for some subscription. I know the palm recognizes my hand super fast. I just hate having to put things down because I usually have my hands full.

The reason I thought about this was when I was on beta , my doorbell video pro recognized my face several times and always wondered about if it could somehow automatically unlock the door for me? But I just blew it off as a well maybe one day.

Then when I saw the palm lock that was cool enough for me to want it. It does great and is super fast at unlocking. I mean so fast that I can’t even put in the code faster . So then I wondered about using my face instead of my palm ( but you would have to be real close for it to pick out your face) . Then thought about using my doorbell pro to use friendly faces to recognize me then use the automation to send it to the lock and have it unlock . I know it can’t be that hard , I am a Apple geek as I have taken their hardware tech test and passed, and open my own repair shop for a few years but that was 20 years ago.. so I know that this little jump of face recognition to unlock the door is not to hard to figure out

It would depend on a few things. What camera would you be using to detect the face?

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I wondered about that figure when I read the initial post, because I wasn’t sure if it was the price of the Palm Lock itself or the cost of the subscription when an app store’s upcharge is figured into the bill.

Welcome to the Forum, @treykirby! :wave:

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Ah good point. I probably misread what they were saying. I thought OP was implying that they had the Palm Lock and were thinking of upgrading to Cam Unlimited to use Friendly faces as an automation routine, but didn’t want to upgrade to Cam Unlimited (at the higher app price) unless someone confirmed they could do this automation, but it could definitely be interpreted the other way instead, that they don’t want to upgrade to the Palm Lock unless someone confirms it could be unlocked with Friendly faces. I didn’t consider the ambiguity and alternate interpretation since they are both nearly $130. My bad.

OP, if you already have Cam Unlimited, you can test how well Friendly Faces is picked up on your currently mounted camera(s) near your front door. Just create a different automation based on face detection and walk up to your door and see if it triggers or how long it takes to trigger the routine (maybe change the color of a Wyze bulb, or turn another camera on/off or something just for a test). If it works well enough for you and fast enough for you, then it will work with the palm lock. I have used other automations to lock and unlock the palm lock with different triggers, but I don’t currently rely on Friendly Faces to do it. I am not confident it is possible to use friendly faces as a trigger. I just checked my app, and it’s not showing as an option anywhere to use one of my faces or “Known Faces” to automatically unlock my door, but I also live in a state that Wyze “blocks” Face detection for (even though all the other major companies allow face detection because it’s actually legal here and their legal team is misreading things and being overly paranoid), so it’s possible face triggers are available to others and I am just unable to verify it because of where I live.

I think you’re actually correct in the interpretation, and I actually thought that before @treykirby edited the initial post to make it more clear (and to appear to answer @WyzeJasonJ’s question before the fact). I was just commenting that the prices are so similar that in the initial read it might’ve been either way, or at least that’s how I processed it at first.

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Yeah, I see the updated explanation now.

If I were wanting to have Wyze Friendly Faces unlock my Cybertruck Lock Wyze Palm Lock, I would probably do it through something like Macrodroid to Home Assistant to Alexa. Basically, have the Wyze app do friendly faces notifications on the doorbell, then have Macrodroid parse Wyze app notifications to look for anything from the doorbell that says my name. Then trigger a webhook/URL which does a “Button Press” to a Home Assistant “Helper” Button which is exposed to and synced to Alexa. Then have an Alexa routine where when that button is “pressed,” Alexa unlocks the door.

That is how I would personally do it. There are lots of other ways to do it though. For someone without Home Assistant, you can create a Virtual Button in Alexa with this free program called VirtualSmartHome.xyz. I have a few of those setup too. You just copy the URL weblink (webhook) and tell macrodroid or tasker or another notification parser to run that link as the action whenever your name shows up on the Wyze VDB notification and then tell Alexa when that button is pressed to run the unlock action.

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It’s been updated yet again. :roll_eyes:

:information_source: @treykirby, I don’t think you’re doing yourself any favors by continuing to edit your original post. I believe you’re likely to see this topic receive more visibility within the community if you instead use one of the  Reply buttons and post regular comments when you want to answer questions or add additional information. Doing show shows activity on the topic; editing your existing post does not.

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Will Alexa do that in a routine without asking for the lock’s PIN? I haven’t ever tried an automation like that, but I suppose I could try triggering it with a spare Plug just to see.

Actually, I just checked and it looks like Unlock is not supported as an automation routine action in Alexa. :frowning: I forgot they (Alexa) were paranoid about automation security/liability for doors/locks and don’t allow it. I checked and Google is doing the same thing :frowning:

SO, now the way to get around this is the following:

Do one of the previously mentioned routines (Macrodroid/Tasker sees a Wyze notification about your face recognized on the doorbell, then sends a webhook to trigger a virtual button in Alexa which has a routine that turns a Wyze plug on or off. In the Wyze app, set up a routine that when the Wyze plug turns on, it unlocks the Palm Lock. Then have the Alexa Routine wait a few seconds and turn the plug back off so it is ready to do it again the next time.

Note: The above will realistically only work if OP uses Android (treated like an Admin). I don’t think Apple allows users to parse notifications, etc, so if on iOS, it may not be easily possible, but some iOS expert can chime in otherwise.

Oh, I see this now:

Ah…so I am guessing you are using iOS and will be out of luck using a normal notification parser.

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Yeah, it’s kind of difficult to see the topic develop when the original poster keeps editing the original post instead of adding context and updates in the replies.

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OP, if you want to do a workaround for this, you will need to either get a cheap android phone that you can just leave running in your house somewhere, or else if you have a computer, you can load an “Android Emulator” on the computer and run it that way. Then follow the above workflow workaround. Then it should work.

Unfortunately Apple does not trust users/developers to be able to have access to the notification API, so it will not work strictly using their ecosystem.

Alternative preferable solution would be for Wyze to add support for friendly faces to be used a trigger in their own in-house automations, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. They said years ago that they planned to add support to have friendly faces disarm their security systems, etc, but it’s still not made any progress that way. I think they probably took that off the roadmap for now and deprioritized it, though it would be nice.

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Finally , my phone had a glitch and would not let me reply correctly, so editing my original post was the only way I could communicate. Sorry for that mistake. I fortunately Blue Stacks ( Mac’s android emulator doesn’t work on my Mac after the upgrade iOS ). I never needed it again so I haven’t searched for another android emulator. . But I will look. Thank you for the tip and I will let you know in a few days when I get a chance to work on it again.

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No sweat. I just want to see this topic get proper visibility, because I’m also interested in knowing what a working solution might be. :upside_down_face:

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I have heard people on Apple have success using Android Studio (Google’s official tool); as well as “NoxPlayer” as the next 2 best and most popular free Android Emulators after Bluestacks for Apple. I use both Android Studio and Bluestacks on Windows, and I prefer Android Studio for everything that isn’t a Video Game. Anyway, you might look into those as options if Bluestacks isn’t working well for you.

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