Cam Pan v4 Ideas

2.4 gigahertz is so 2010, and likely to be more congested due to other applications including garage door openers, baby monitors, Bluetooth devices, microwaves, and more using the 2.4 GHz band. The radio frequencies within the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz frequency bands are divided into channels. Your Wi-Fi uses one of these channels to transmit your internet signal. There are 42 channels for 5 GHz Wi-Fi, while 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi has only 14. That’s why Wi-Fi traffic jams are not a big problem with 5 GHz Wi-Fi; there are more lanes to choose from.

Many routers/modems/access points broadcast in both 2.4 and 5. However to reduce security attack footprint, many will disable one or the other. With most modern devices – smart TVs, phones, game consoles, computers – all using 5, I am not seeing a reason to use 2.4 any more in my setup…except for the older wyze devices. I have a mesh system that works great and it reaches everywhere I need it to.

If I remember correctly, 5 gigahertz provides faster - up to 1 .4GB – speed. I think 2.4 does up to 450 max. So if you’re paying for a gig internet, why not use it all? I have 5 HDR+ televisions I stream videos to – usually not all at once – and those TVs are connected wirelessly. 5G is the way to go vs 2.4 for this in my opinion.

I have 40+ devices in one house on the wifi. For this reason, I feel like 5G is better for my needs.

Other people have 75-100 devices – mostly IoT – on their home networks.

5GHz also has shorter range and worse penetration through walls.
I would most definitely not prefer 5Ghz. The camera doesn’t need the bandwidth, and does need the range.

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  1. License-tag clarity
  2. 5Ghz.
  3. An app with dark mode, of course.

Don’t misunderstand, I am aware of all of that. Additionally I am going on 300 devices all by myself, most of them using the 2.4GHz band (including over 40 cameras), so I understand all of those points. Heavy bandwidth devices like TV’s, phones, computers all definitely need 5GHz. Almost all other IoT (sensors, cameras, etc) are still 2.4GHz, and a lot more is heading there too. The new Matter standard for IoT is primarily focussed on 2.4GHz with Thread/Thread Border Routers for Smart Home Connectivity, plus Bluetooth. They will eventually do a lot more with WiFi too, but most smart home stuff is going to be pushed toward using Thread and Thread Border Routers for connectivity. I read a lot of articles that predict that within 3 years that Matter will be the primary standard for IoT with the majority of devices using Thread (2.4GHz).

As I said above, I am in no way saying that I am against 5GHz, but it will almost be impossible for a Smart Home Company to be really successful in the long term if they completely avoid 2.4GHz. Rather, a better solution is to give people an option to pay the extra cost for a Pro category of device that supports 5GHz when the speeds do not require it. A lot of people come to Wyze for Entry Level and affordability, so it would not be wise to abandon 2.4GHz at this point when the cameras only use between 10-300KB/s, but it is great that they are offering 5GHz with the latest Pro Doorbell and hopefully they will expand that. Like you, I also have 1gbps Fiber and a mesh network that covers my property, but there are many who do not have all that and don’t want to pay the extra cost for something they won’t use. Hence the great idea to offer some entry-level and some Pro which will meet everyone’s needs depending on their preference.

We all know that 2.4 goes through walls better and signal goes farther. Yes, that is true, no doubt.

We do all see that Wyze themselves are selling 6G router and router pro models now, right? The router supports over 50 devices, and router pro supports over 75 devices?

The reality is there is no limit to how many devices can be on any frequency – the limit is by your device. Most will allow 256 IP addresses, but spread that across 14 channels of 2.4? That is 18 devices per channel. I wouldn’t want that.

Like others, 2.4 is saturated in my neighborhood and buildings. Every one of these 11 SSIDs in the image below on 2.4 GHz I can see overlap. At one point, there are 7 wireless networks that overlap at the same channel. But okay. Everyone get whatever you want.

Yes. Same issue here. 5G goes through my walls fine, but then I improved with mesh and AX.

Just single family homes without apartments.

“Best Channels: None, try 5GHz”

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If you have not watched this or know about “DEAUTH” (de authorization), you should watch this video:

That alone is a good reason to use 5G.
That is until someone creates a proof-of-concept device that works on 5G.
Anyway, watch, learn, become educated.

Just changed to WPA3 - didn’t know that it prevents the attack.

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I would like to see the new Waze Cam Pan V3 able compatible with the wyze solar panel. That or the Waze Cam Pan V3 be able to somehow produce it’s own power… exp. rechargable.

WPA3 has nothing to do with frequency,
I would assume all WiFi6 routers support WPA3 on 2.4GHz,
I know for a fact Netgear’s do, because I’ve been using it for a year.

There are a dozen trivial disconnection attacks WPA3 is susceptible to, anyway. A Raspberry PI and easy-to-obtain software will let any script-kiddy break into your WiFi. If that’s your defense, you are not defended.

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they say I’m crazy for hardwiring everything i can still. It’s these cameras that require me to still use wifi. That and one of our smart TVs don’t allow ethernet.

I have and run wireshark. I attend defcon. I’m an IT guy. I get it.

I just want a camera that stays connected and doesn’t throw error 90 or 27. Cam pan 3 can’t do that. Hopefully cam pan 4 can do that.

I’ve seen a lot of error codes in my day, but any idea what the wyze ‘failed to connect. Error: (code -20015)’ is?

I have 6 cameras in this particular home overseas. This one camera started reporting that error. All others have events and live stream no problem. This one camera I annot view live stream, but it stopped recording events probably 8 days ago. No headed back overseas until Friday. In USA until then.