They may make them a package deal or, they may need their own dedicated bridge… Who knows.
Carver, I have old eyes and a fictional memory… I have not as yet figured out how to activate the V3 siren using sensors… Perhaps you could enlighten me?
Wait and wish…
For the door sensors, do we know if the wyze HMS will be compatible with 3rd party door sensors? Asking to see if slim sensors can be used or in door sensors will work if they are zigbee/z-wave compaitble? I think that’s the right technology but could be wrong.
No, The Wyze system will only work with Wyze, at least for now. They’ve been discussing API access, which has some possibilities for 3rd party integration to a degree, but these don’t use zigbee/z-wave protocols.
Yokay so they don’t use Zigbee… What do they use???
The only thing specified is that the Wyze V2 sensors use 915MHz RF for communication to the Hub.
Zigbee uses the global standard 2.4GHz ISM frequency band, so these sensors presumably aren’t capable of Zigbee.
Z-Wave can’t be permanently ruled out though since it uses 915MHz ISM band. However, Z-Wave uses a proprietary radio system from Sigma Designs, which means Wyze would’ve presumably had to pay a lot more to be able to use it, and the sensors and system would cost a lot more, including for all the people who would never use or want Z-Wave capability. Wyze tries to keep things as inexpensive as possible. If someone wants more expensive Z-Wave devices there are plenty of more expensive sensors they can buy from companies that do support the standard and pay licencing fees to Sigma Designs for.
I personally thank Wyze for keeping it as inexpensive as possible so I can afford to buy a ton of them. I simply ask Wyze to hurry and make the public API’s available so we can integrate them into other systems ourselves for free. If Sigma Designs made Z-Wave open and free then I’d be much more supportive of that protocol standard…but it’s not, and I’d prefer Wyze keep things cheaper and just give us API access in the future…but even if they never do, the sensors are still an awesome deal compared to any others out there. I bought a bunch.
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Carver, how do you differentiate V1 and V2 sensors??
MAIN DIFFERENCES BETWEEN V1 & V2 SENSORS
V1 Sensors - Wyze Sense
- Launched spring of 2019.
- Uses Coin/Button Cell Batteries; roughly half the height of the new V2 sensors (1.1"X1.2" vs 2.1"X1.7")
- Based on a Texas Instruments chipset that locks/bricks if voltage gets extremely low (resetting the MAC address and difficult to restore)
- Sensitivity is static;
- Motion sensor has a black dome making some people mistakenly think it has a tiny camera lens instead of just being a sensor. The black dome on a White casing also draws attention.
- Reconnecting after disconnect is sometimes finicky
- Impossible to figure out the exact amount of time something was open/closed because it rounds off to the largest nearest time unit (if something was open for 13 hours it will round off to 1 day and not say the hours, minutes or seconds, so it’s impossible to go look up that exact time on a camera without reviewing 12 hours of video to find when it happened and who it was that closed the sensor)
- AWESOME PRICES ($5-$6 per sensor)
- Now Deprecated (still usable but regarded as obsolete and best avoided due to having been superseded). Can still be bought through some unofficial Wyze sources
- Can definitely be converted to work totally locally directly through Home Assistant - A HUGE PLUS!
V2 Sensors - currently part of the Wyze Home Monitoring Service
- Shipping Spring 2021 (March-ish) with HMS (can be used separately from HMS and will be sold separately once HMS subscribers are taken care of first)
- Uses AAA batteries (yay for rechargeables and longer lasting!)
- Roughly twice the height of the V1 sensors (2.1"X1.7" vs 1.1"X1.2")
- Stronger signal/connection
- Better circuit board that shouldn’t brick with low voltage and should be much more reliable
- Motion sensitivity is dynamic/can be adjusted
- Motion sensor does not have a black dome (black domes make some people think it’s hiding a camera lens instead of just being a motion sensor). the grey cover is less attention grabbing and looks nicer on the casing.
- Will keep logging status if power or internet goes out
- Allows figuring out exact amount of time something was open/closed (unlike V1 sensors which simply round off to the largest nearest time unit)
- Prices still pretty awesome! ($7-$8/sensor).
- Actively being supported.
- A lot of unknowns still (really hoping someone will figure out how to integrate these into Home Assistant, and that Wyze will eventually release API for third party access like they talked about doing for some devices in their AMA)
Both have a lot in common (using 915MHz RF, etc), but the above are the main differences to me that make me prefer and be excited for these new V2 sensors despite the slight price increase.
All-in-All, for my purposes, these V2 sensors are WAY worth the $2 price increase, which is still significantly cheaper than almost every other sensor in any other system and has some great bonuses to go with it. Of course there are things I would like better or improved in the system still, but they are still an awesome deal for what I want to use them for! 
Hope that helps answer your question.
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One thing that I have enjoyed with my Ring alarm, is the audible (female voice) that confirms that my alarm has been set at night. I use Alexa (Echo dot) to set my alarm nightly. Example…“Alexa, arm Ring.” In fact…it’s now part of a routine which auto sets, turns off lights, etc. Can we expect the same with home monitoring?
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I ordered my system but now I see there is not cell backup option or fire/smoke/CO detection. I have this with my current ADT system I was so looking forward to shutting down but it looks like I can’t just yet. Anyone have more info on these options??
Not sure what of exactly what you are talking about But the Wyze cameras do support monitoring of smoke and fire…
I see, so it activates on the sound of a traditional battery operated smoke detector, I imagine audio has to be on for the cameras in my house? A push alert to me is great but I am hoping it will trigger the monitoring service to call the fire department.
Well, that’s partially true. The cameras support detecting if some OTHER detector detected smoke or CO…they don’t have any way of detecting anything themselves as a primary source. They simply tell you if they heard the following from some other device:
Temporal-Three (T3) alarm signal, which produces 3 long beeps followed by a pause. [smoke]
T4 alarm signal, which produces 4 long beeps followed by a pause. [carbon monoxide ]
So you have to have a separate smoke detector or CO detector. Wyze doesn’t currently have any devices that actually detect Smoke or CO themselves as was stated.
However, Wyze is working on some devices to help directly protect the home from fire damage and water and other things:
But that is not yet currently an option. Still, the cams provide a nice help to turn other cheaper detectors into smart detectors by way of Wyze forwarding the beeping detection on to your phone no matter where you are. That is pretty cool. I wish I could set those notices to ignore my Do-Not-Disturb settings at night, but still not disturb me for most all other normal notices. Wyze needs to create separate priority notification options for things like this.
As for cellular backup options @davesirak Wyze doesn’t currently have any plans announced for supporting this themselves probably since it would add a lot of cost for the hardware and the service. Still, there has been discussion of ways to implement this yourself. I made a post exploring some DIY options to consider here:
It might be worth your time to check into IFTTT and see if they have something that would address your needs
Carver, I never said that they detected I said they monitor and the choice to have them monitor is right in the settings you can either have monitor it or you can turn the little switch off so it doesn’t .
I don’t know how exactly is works behind the scenes I’m not sure of what the implication is that it does monitors, what it does is it’s listening for a particular sound As I understand it
Yes, in response to him saying it does not having detection you said you didn’t know what exactly he was talking about because it did support monitoring of smoke/fire.
I was simply clarifying for them (and possibly you since you also said you didn’t know what they were talking about) to not be confused what “monitoring” meant since it is very different from “detection” as they were asking about. Sorry if there was any misunderstanding. I was just providing clarification on the difference since [to me] it didn’t appear to be clear to everyone. No offense intended. Your answer was quite helpful in suggesting something that might be sufficient to resolve his concerns (I also find it to be a very useful feature to warn me from anywhere about any of my stand-alone detectors going off). Just making sure it was clear to them that a person would also need other detectors for it to work.
Carver, I think the bottom line is that we try to help people in anyway that we think will. Not all of our advice is always going to be 100% correct however, our intentions are.
I really like it that we can exchange information about our different posts without offending each other
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I appreciate the input, I am a huge fan of Wyze so I am excited to try the system and save some money. I think I will run both systems and hold off on turning off ADT until I have everything installed. My wife was held at gunpoint in the grocery store robbery and a couple of years ago. She was not physically harmed but has PTSD from the event and our alarm system is always on since that night. As much as I love Wyze products, I need her to get comfortable with the new system before I cut the ADT cord so I am looking for as much info as possible. Thanks everyone.
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I would prefer something that integrates with an existing traditional non smart wired alarm system. My current system has worked without issues for over 25 years, just would be nice to upgrade it without spending an arm and leg. After having a bad experience with the Wyze Sense v1 stuff, I question the life cycle of this wireless stuff that opens up the doors to connection and reliably issues and the upkeep of batteries.