We would like to hear from you - 4/24/2025

Why not invest in the LPR cameras and mount them, power them so they look like they are working. If a decoy is 50% or even 25% effective as a decoy, they pay for themselves over and over. Worth the chance they are effective.

Frankly, I don’t want Flock system or their cameras in my community or town. I don’t trust law enforcement to NOT use captured data AGAINST citizens. They will track your travel. There’s an old story of city in CA that had Flock based camera. The local PD, started tracking city council and city manager travel. Law enforcement used tracking data and intimidated a city council member into supporting bills and funds to benefit the PD. You think this was the idea of some lowly patrolman or someone like the Chief or Deputy?

Its already been exposed that Flock is in more than 5,000 cities across the country. That number is 2-3 years old now. Flock is considered a 'third party" collecting data about traffic, so cops can by pass (violate your 4th amendment civil rights) requirement by ignoring the constitution to obtain a search warrant, when they get the information from the third party. The unethical and as I see it, unconstitutional, anti-citizen angle is, the city/county is in cahoots and violating our rights, when they are using taxpayer’s money against the taxpayer to pay for these services, that are not benefiting taxpayers. Even worse, courts can’t stop it. The local PD/SO is required to sign a NDA to not discuss the workings of Flock. The NDA restricts law enforcement from detailing information about camera, traffic or Flock procedures/operations even in court. Because they are third party, Discovery is denied, as the PD/SO/City doesn’t own the data and restricted from providing it before the contract is signed. Making it worse, Flock shares owner/car data such as tickets, travel, restrictions, citations with not only the PD/SO that they have the local contract, they are sharing other cities data with PD/SO. And Flock encourages access to the databases that PD/SOs have access to.

If that is not bad enough. Ever been stopped by law enforcement for a citation? Did they ask for your phone number? You do know, of course, its your cell phone number they seek. Cell carriers are willingly sharing cell tower, cell phone data with law enforcement without search warrants. They can locate you, ping your phone, whenever they choose to.

A third party company (can’t remember their name) contracts with local PD/SOs for a product called Stingray. Stingray allows law enforcement to stand up a virtual cell phone tower and collect citizens travels and store the data. They don’t need the carriers data. Law enforcement can collect cell phone data locations live, bounce it off unpaid citation database and bench warrant data. When it pops up a “citizen/criminal” that has not paid his ticket, they can dispatch a close Road Pirate to stop and arrest with the option to catch and release if they have a credit card to pay on demand. The PD/SO don’t even pay a fee to get access to the software. They just give a cut of the fine to Stingray’s owners.

You realize, we don’t know how any of this collected data will be used in the future? Who will have access to it? You think it will be used to protect you? We don’t even have protection from the police, you think we will be protected later? Don’t forget, courts have ruled that law enforcement has not responsiblity to protect citizens. NONE. City of Castle Rock v. Gonzales. Warren v District of Columbia.

If it were only that simple. 2.4 GHz interference is ubiquitous, both from my neighbors’ WiFi networks and a hundred other gadgets that broadcast in that frequency range.

I have a wired PoE camera system covering my property, but I use Wyze cams both as a backup and as a demonstration to my neighbors who are looking for inexpensive security cameras. I have enough slowdowns and connection drops to my Wyze cams to convince me that 2.4 GHz could never meet the needs of real-time LPR in a suburban environment.

Streaming highly-compressed video while storing high-quality video locally on an SD card would certainly help, but that is a design decision that Wyze has to make.

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Any feature that increases subscriptions or fees is a non-starter, regardless of the benefits.
We’ve gone from services that go along with owning our products to a paid subscription and now to tiers of paid subscriptions.
Enough is enough.

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A no cost addin that would also allow an ‘exclude from notifications’ list of plates. Or if notifications note either a ‘known’ or ‘unknown’ plate option even with a ‘new plate’ that is not either known or yet or in the unknown list.

An extra version with ‘speedcam’ showing plates and the speed could be useful.

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Not interested. Id prefer better detection generally like ignoring waving trees and lighting changes better, respecting detection zones.

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I agree, basic functionality improvements are absolutely a priority over enhancements. And reporting a vehicle detected when that happens to be a vehicle in the frame that has been sitting there for hours, but a B flew by and so it reports a vehicle since it saw it within the frame. That could be improved for sure!

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Wyze is not prositioned to be a Flock. Flock is a specialty dedicated live police dispatch designed o apprehend any criminal quickly driving a stolen car that enters your town or subdivision before they commit a crime- if police are available. Flock goes away if the community stops paying for it. Wyze would have to specify plate number communication options.
Many LPR cameras have the software inside the camera that image process to determine the license number and the camera does not or does transmit the images to a central processor to devine the license numbers. They can be set up in many ways. Those cameras data are only accessed if a lead to solve a major crime is needed. Some send camera images to a central processor to devine the license number.
You mentioned Castle Rock, CO. Flock is responsible for the " Miracle in Castle Rock" Car thefts all around Castle Rock went up 119% while car thefts in Castle Rock went down 29% after Flock installation. People moved to Castle Rock for the lower crime. Home prices went up. After 3 yrs of Flock, Castle Rock residents are so happy with Flock, they recently voted to lease more Flock cameras and more police officers to lower crime even further. Areas that can afford it almost all have Flock protecting their community. Through watching LPR closely for 6 yrs, generally with caveats, it’s the drug dealers, pedos, and criminals that are fiercely against LPRs. They cite potential privacy and abuses. The opinions/ votes of all are equally valid/ counted.
Wyze is not positioned to be a Flock competitor. Wyze would have to clearly specify to users how any system would work, what would be disclosed and all options. Most states require all the plate data to be erased after 30 days with the exception of a court ordered hold for an active investigation. ( why criminals hate LPR)
Credit to forum users: Wyze has enough sharp LPR familiar/ experienced LPR users on this forum that they will see and communicate any missed reward or risk issue to us.

Concur, Jonny5.
Detection zones and their ignore areas are a joke.
The light changes, waving trees with shadows is also a joke.
Also, the detection of stationary vehicles, just because they’re in the frame, is ridiculous. If it isn’t moving, iot trigger an event, then it shouldn’t be included.

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I’m not sure about LPR but would love to see known vehicle recognition. Use case is pretty straight forward. Don’t notify me when my wife’s white SUV pulls in the driveway. Notify me when my daughter’s car comes home after curfew or an unknown car is in the driveway.

While I would use that feature I would love some improvements to the detection zones. Most other brands use custom shape polygons when wyze still uses squares. My camera is on an angle so squares force me to zig zag just to exclude the street or sidewalk.

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I’ve enjoyed reading the discussion but don’t have a strong opinion about the issue, though I agree that if the AI could be tuned/trained to filter out designated/known/stationary vehicles (maybe à la the NBD Filter) so that Detection Zone exclusions could be reduced or eliminated entirely, then that would definitely seem like progress. Since he hasn’t dropped it here himself, I’m going to link to a relevant @ssummerlin topic from earlier this year:

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I’d LOVE to know when the POSTMAN drives up to the box! No thanks on a license plate reader.

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Join the club:

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Check out these threads.

And, those squares are way too big, comparing to what I see for squares on an old Foscam and Amcrest camera I have, I think they are much smaller than the squares offered up on the Wyze Cams. I’ll have to fire those two camera’s up for a comparison when I have time to do so.

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Although, a sensor may be easier.

I agree as Wyze is not positioned to be Flock. I am against the idea of Flock. I am against the city/town government using tax dollars against us. They don’t use it just to hunt down car thief. THAT might be okay with me. I am against government buying a few cameras, selling the citizens on the idea, using tax dollars and revenue generated from traffic and red light fines to buy more until they have end-2-end camera tracking everyone’s movement. I DO NOT trust law enforcement wholesale or individually using that data for government OR personal (of course it against the law ) purposes. I am saying the vast majority of the time, the vast majority of the police/deputies and the rest CAN NOT BE TRUSTED.

I don’t want cameras networked; not between cities/towns in different states, same state, or even around town. Flock in already contracted in 5,000 town. They share. I am against the idea of a “Flock”. I think its CA, maybe San Francisco, where I read that they passed a law that all business with surveillance camera MUST give law enforcement access to their business/private property cameras. I would rip my out before I would grant government. EVEN if they paid for my system.

If we are striving for 100% safety, if we are striving for 100% no more car thief, no more speeders, no more red lights, the only way to be 100% safe, get rid of the cars. Maybe set the speed limit to 15 MPH. Yes ridiculous. Agreed. There is a risk as humans that can’t be legislated away or create such restrictive safety policy, procedures and operations without taking all our freedoms.

Our freedoms are being taken away. They take a little, then a little more. They push, then wait a while and take a little more. Though there are open carry laws for firearms across the country, ROUTINELY, DAILY citizens are stopped questioned, Identified, challenged for carry permit - even when their is no hint of threat. They do it to try to suppress, discourage us from exercise our legal freedom. Camera on street poles has nothing to do with carrying firearms legally. BUT its a parallel path to take our freedoms.
If cops had their way, we would not even be allowed to record them in public.
Cops think that only cops should have firearms. How dangerous is that? They will take your gun, your knife, and your baseball bat when they think they can get away with it.

I am 1,000% against the idea Flock and its sister company doing the same things they do, because its government suppression and control of our liberties. I am not a radical or threat, or revolutionist. We have too much government in our lives. Its simply that.

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Yes, I want a camera that can capture a licence plate clearly day or night. There is enough suspicious activity going on with people driving up and grabbing parcels from doorsteps, etc. that I want to be able to report these vehicles to the cops.

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I believe AI Video Search has already supported this!

I just now learned you need cam unlimited pro for this feature. Maybe the browser UI team needs to notify the user why the AI search results keep ending up empty, or simply remove the search bar for non-pro users.

IT would be useful to know if an unknown vehicle parked in my driveway OR out front of my house (where I park most often). LPR would be useless to me as Michigan doesn’t have front plates and all my cameras face the front of the vehicle

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