Stolen Camera V3

A thiefs ability to effectively erase all the Wyze images of a burglary, car theft, other crimes by quickly stealing your camera / converting it to their burner Wyze account with a hot spot cell phone remains the reason you cant use Wyze equipment for security until this massive flaw is re fixed.
What 's so damning is that Wyze fixed this massive flaw the first time , announced the fix. Then secretly reinstalled the flaw, vulnerability and didn’t inform anyone of thenew vulnerability .
Why we were forced to informed all renters of the Wyze massive problem and replaced a dozen Wyze cams with secure security equipment. As months drag on, our tennants are asking for more Wyze to be replaced with secure cameras every month. They gave up hope of a fix. Wyze cams are now used as no subscription or dummy cams.

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I doubt Wyze willingly reinstalled the flaw. Wyze has no regression testing in place. What’s more likely is that someone made a foolish mistake and removed a previous fix from the codebase.

And it’s not a one-off instance, either. Wyze has a history of bugs reappearing in subsequent releases.

"Wyze has a history of bugs reappearing " That makes it a systemic problem, not just a one off. It’s been 5 months and Wyze has not given even an likely probable estimate of when it will restore a critical top 3 Security function it deleted, again. Too bad, Wyze had promise, they need to remove the word security from their web site and say they are casual observation cameras, not security.

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Well said nothing security about these cameras now.

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I asked as promised. Here is the answer we got:

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This is a major problem for those with a subscription. A discount or fix should be immediate.

Kinda reminds me of the various cloud storage services. Microsoft, Google, Apple, I believe even paid ones like carbonite. Buried in their terms it basically says if they suffer a data loss event, that’s your problem, they don’t guarantee anything stored there. Somewhat defeating the purpose of having cloud storage.

In my case everything I store in the cloud is also stored at least 1 other place (obviously Wyze doesn’t count, but I don’t use their cloud service anyway).

That being said in many years of using Microsoft hosted email and Onedrive, and friends using Google Drive and others, never heard of a single event of data loss (that wasn’t user error). These massive storage systems have tons of redundancy built in, so there would have to be a major physical damage event or fire to potentially lose data.

That’s why I use iCloud as a back up only to my backups. I have automated daily backups of all my stuff using Apple’s Time Machine and Bombich Software Carbon Copy Cloner. I learned my lesson decades ago.

It’s been 6 months since Wyze users , not Wyze discovered Wyze had re-activated Wyze’s worst ever security flaw, again making it possible for criminals to easily effectively delete security camera footage of their crimes.
The core #1 function of a security camera is the ability to have the footage of a crime available after the crime. Wyze’s #1 core function fatal flaw makes all Wyze cameras not security cameras.
It is clear Wyze has no intent of ever fixing Wyze’s worst security flaw ever. A flaw Wyze activated and unlike every other security camera company, did not test for. This flaw could possibly have been reactivated 2 years ago. Wyze spent tens of thousands of hours making hundreds of minor changes, and willingly chose to not fix the number 1 most critical security flaw.
It is past time to remove Wyze cams from any security role. Wyze’s behavior states clearly it is not, will not be a security camera company.

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Technically correct but singular

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I noticed the same, but if someone steals my laptop I can still access my data from another device.

I use IDrive for backups and general cloud storage. I also use a SSD and non-SSD drives as secondary and tertiary back ups.

For Wyze I use Micro SD cards only and have the cameras behind storm windows. If someone steals my cams I have bigger problems to worry about.

I don’t use Wyze cams for security, since they aren’t considered security cameras. I use them to monitor and record.

These cams are useful to keep honest people honest, only.

I do enjoy them for monitoring and time-lapse video.

You have to understand what you are buying for $20 to $50.

I do agree that the cameras are at a very low price range, but it’s the data that I’m paying for monthly that they charge me to store has a serious flaw, allowing somebody to add the camera to their account and it removes all of the cloud data that I have been paying monthly for.

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Great point.

I think I read somewhere that SSDs are not a good choice for backup, I might be wrong though.

Same here, but isn’t record and monitor some sort of security?

Ditto.

Per reports, SSDs need to be powered up during a certain period or they lose bits.

That is why I have two other options.

Where did you hear this about SSD are not a good choice for backup? Rewriting to an SSD can be an issue to limit SSDs lifespan. Limited writes should cause no harm.

I can’t remember where I red about it, although I concur with you that shouldn’t be an issue. Maybe are not good for daily incremental backups.

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They are still additive and don’t write over themselves. Maybe is a good word.

I used to rotate a copy of backup to my bank safety deposit box. Now I consider IDrive as my off-site storage.

Hah, I used to do the same, now I just use the office and iCloud for offsite storage.

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It’s rare but it happens. This is like the 3rd time Google drive has lost people’s files due to a bug on Google’s side:

Still, thanks to RAID, and similar setups, data loss is rare due to so much redundancy, like you said, but it does happen, just not due to hard drive crashes anymore.