That’s true but I could be done and might be a nice way to keep everything local.
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Wyze I was wondering do you have any costs for CMC? Does $1.49 cover the costs? Also should you increase the price of CamPlus to accommodate the costs for Person Detection? Some thoughts.
Thanks!
Apple bought that technology instead of developing it. Don’t you think if Apple or WYZE had the capability of doing this they would have before this?
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I see your point. Maybe Wyze could get into contract with a different AI company to get it back on the camera firmware. Just trying to think of things to help Wyze 
The outdoor cameras don’t have Person Detection.
I’ve been wondering about that also.
First, is that a bug or a feature? 
Unlike your very valid street example, most of my detection zones are not that I don’t care what happens there, I’m just trying to stop a wiggling bush (or my newest joy, a friend’s huge waving flag) from generating endless false alerts. With the current rectangle limitation, I often block off half the screen just to get rid of some small but poorly placed immovable obstacle.
Second, so this means that even clips with action outside the detection zone are still being sent up to Wyze on my limited bandwidth to be analyzed?
So yup, we definitely agree that detection zones need fixing!
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The challenge here for Wyze is amortizing that one time payment to cover an ongoing cost with an unknown ending date.
The problem for us is that it gives Wyze an unintended financial incentive for their devices to have shorter lifespans.
Also our upfront payment becomes a bet on our part that Wyze will still be in business “X” amount of time.
Hopefully their new money guru is good at actuarial tables, because I would also like to avoid ongoing fees!! 
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Interesting, mine seems to work well. I have a camera pointed out my front window watching my porch and the entire front yard to clear across the street. I set the detection zone to skip detection of everything publicly used (road, public sidewalk, etc), and only detect the porch and walkway up to the porch. I’ve never had a false alarm in any public area (road, public sidewalk, etc), and person detection works amazingly except that it’s limited to once every 5 minutes, so to compensate for those few times, I put a motion sensor covering the porch, to inform me of all movement on the porch, even if the cam itself had already sensed movement in the last 5 minutes. Otherwise it’s awesome.
Sorry to hear you are having problems with it. Not sure what the issue is, but detection zones have always been working great for me throughout several different firmware versions. You’d think it would be consistently good or bad for everyone…
I am guessing that this will be the end result ultimate solution…to avoid legal issues, etc, Wyze will provide free person detection for V2 cams for everyone, at least up to the announcement date today. Then they will stop selling them and stop developing for that model and support will die down, allow it to be frustrating (like the RTSP is for lots of people), and only provide new features and development, etc for the new V3’s they are working on, and these will basically require subscriptions for everything. V2’s will fade out and the issue will become relatively moot. It’s what most big companies do to get people to buy the newer stuff all the time. I mean, look at Samsung, you spend over $1K on the best phone that gets 2 major upgrades (ie: maybe over 2 years time) and then the OS, etc is totally out of date and several apps don’t work anymore because they require a different OS, etc. so you have to buy a new phone to be able to use things again. Frustrating, but it is a solution for Wyze without breaking promises or legal liability…just kill off the V2’s over time and make everyone switch to V3 with subscriptions. That’s what the investors want anyway.
That’s what I see coming. Still, I hate subscriptions on principle for 99% of cases…it’s one of the main reasons I chose Wyze to begin with. It is the norm now though.
It certainly appears that way.
I wish WYZE had looked into these problems before telling the world they screwed up. It may have save a lot of bandwidth and processing power.
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Oh I think we’ve reached that point.
WYZE decided to hire someone that understands money two years after starting a business. Not a comforting sign. 
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Maybe allow people to entirely disable cloud storage. I don’t need cloud storage or notifications for any of my indoor cams for example. If I could disable that, and just have the ability to scan the local SD card recordings, that works. It’d save you tons of cloud costs (my wife and I are home ALL DAY working from home, so I guarantee our indoor cams are needlessly costing several hours of cloud recordings every day per cam).
It’d be nice to let us have free person detection on X Cams where X is the number of other cams where we’ve disabled cloud storage entirely. Since we’re saving Wyze tons of hours of cloud recordings per camera that disabled it, that cost would offset the cost of having 1 or 2 with person detection enabled.
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You would think so but I’m not alone in this. There is another post in this thread with almost an identical situation.
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I might be able to give $5 to $10 a month. I don’t currently use CMC/Cam Plus but I might look into it!
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I like that idea. Not sure a 1 to 1 ratio would be enough. I don’t know that the tiny bit of storage and bandwidth of 12 second clips would compensate for the person detection costs though.
Will it be monthly or yearly?
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I can live without person detection. I’d be much happier with a local storage solution rather than having 12 second clips stored on the cloud. I use SD Cards in all my cameras but still need the 12 second clips to find the activity. Local storage is a must and would reduce the cost for cloud storage for Wyze.
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I just hate it when smart people who are rational tell me what I don’t want to hear. But yes, that is the logical outcome.
Likewise!
And now we know why Wyze got rid of @kyphos 's Norweigian Fjord “FULLY OFFLINE” camera recording. They can kill off the usefulness of any of their recent firmware releases simply by shutting down the appropriate authentication server…
Not you too!
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Shhh!
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Do I sense the arrival of a thriving black market in older Wyze firmware similar to the cassette tape exchanges of Grateful Dead music?
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