Not as such, but T-Mobile was offering big discounts on refurbished phones. I think they hoped that you would activate them and use their service. I have no Sim cards in mine.
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Good read. Thanks. I evolved from a forerunner of Sprint, to Sprint, then Verizon, then AT&T (via Cricket). I have stayed in the AT&T camp for years. When I travel overseas I usually just buy a SIM card for an older phone I have. (iPhone 7).
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Very informative! Thank you for posting!
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Makes sense! So theyāre pocket sized WiFi tablets that you can leave running 24/7 without the dangers of a battery bursting!
GSM phones can be unlocked and switch carriers, whereas CDMA phones are locked to a carrier. Europe uses GSM almost exclusively. GSM is the most popular standard for mobile phones in the world. Most travelers prefer GSM.
My phone is GSM, My carrier provides LTE service. LTE is an abbreviation for Long Term Evolution. I donāt know how fast the data rate is because it varies with time and location. Strangely enough viewing the 3 Wyze cams live from anywhere in the city has been dependable (Assuming the Wyze cams are up and running.) This is actually my favorite use. (Sorry, perhaps TMI)
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GSM and CDMA are basically dated tech that everyone is dropping. Just like analog support was dropped, 2g gsm and CDMA are being dropped. Everything now is 4g or 5g, and LTE. The difference between carriers is what bands they use, which complicates things to switch carriers, unless you are sure you got a phone model thatās compatible with all carriers.
I use this Network Cell Info to check cell towers and signal strength. Unfortunately out in the boonies my RSRP is often -111 to -121 dBm 
For cell and wifi speed testing, Iāve recently moved away from Speedtest and gone to Speedcheck. It gives steady results with more interesting analytics IMHO.
Can you guys start a new thread? This thread is about why the outdoor cam sucks, and people are getting spammed by your off-topic comments.
Yes, threads tend to mutate. 
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yes, good short read. i have some programagle Sim cards using the t moble 3G network that will be retired this year. so need to hurry up and buy newer devices for our IOT sensor network that still use 3g remote sensors to send narrow band data like for moisture and irrigation systems. Will probaly upgrade all to new Mesh Fog networks with LORAWAN or 4G IIOT for beter security then old IOT devices. Video will need to go to Fog Servers for processing or eventual archieval to a cloud server. hope Wyze video feed can be configured as internet will not be avalaible on many security installs we use Mesh Fog IIOT and video cannot leave the network for security.
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With disappointment centered around:
- no WiFi, requires a hub (a huge sacrifice on the alter of battery preservation)
- no continuous recording (an option for continuous or motion activated would have been nice)
- battery only, no plug-in capability (optional plug-in capability would have expanded the use case)
- no solar charging (a way to extend battery life, without sacrificing so much functionality)
Take a look at this (the early adopter price is 2x WCO, but it provides all of the above)
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I like the wireless. If you donāt like donāt buy. But for many running to a shed (myself) with no power 50 or 60 ft this works great.
I think Wyze has had great strides in products and keeping prices down below virtually all others in this section of the market.
Kudos Wyzeā¦ We love yaā¦
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Glad it works for you, but I donāt need you to tell me not to buy it. Obviously Iām not buying it based on my comments.
We are allowed to voice our concerns about a product whether we buy it or not.
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I know how you feel! I donāt like the battery only design either! You can vote on a second version of the Outdoor Camera in this thread Wyze Cam Outdoor V2 Ideas and hopefully, Wyze will look into this!
I had no problem finding the older versions of the Wyze app. But was not able to install an older version on my phone. Still working on that. I REALLY donāt care for the changes made in the events section of the latest release. Just changes for no reason. That area was much better before their āupdateā as they call it.
This looks a bit different then the instructions I followed the first time. Iāll give it a try. I do have the app on my phone. Looked like it was working. Till the very end. Then I got the app not installed message. Iāll see if I can get this to work. The issue is most likely meā¦
Thanks once again. Iāll let you know if I have better luck this time.
Followed all the steps. Still got the same āapp not installedā message. I did not download the older version of the Wyze app with my phone. I downloaded it with my computer and transferred it to my phone. Maybe thatās the problem? I have the file in the downloads directory. Maybe I need to dump it and make the DL with the phone?
Yes, it sounds like that APK file was either corrupted or incompatible with your phone / OS version.
The biggest variable I hit with APK downloads is not so much the phone vs PC - either can work fine - but something happening in transmission due to a flaky / interrupted internet connection.
So yeah, dump everything, make sure you get a good download from a safe well known source, make sure itās a good transfer to the phone if doing that, close all other apps, have plenty of battery charge and free space and try the install again.
On some apps I have had to try a half dozen different APK versions to find the right match that works. Especially when trying for the oldest app version on a new device, or the newest app version on an old device.
You needs to know the hardware of your phone/tablet.
Qualcomm or Intel chip.? or other Chinese