Moving tree branches, shadows, water ripples etc. are all detected as motion and create events which admittedly are only notified if AI detects person, vehicle etc. However
as tree branches move continuously and in some cases fill most of the detection area its pretty near impossible to exclude them from the detection zone without making it so small its ineffective. It seems to me this is a great waste of storage space. Could there be an option for events after submission to AI are deleted unless AI detects a person, vehicle etc.
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I know I can filter the events list to only see AI events, but it seems wasteful to keep non-AI recordings when I have no intention of ever looking at them (and I have no desire to manually delete).
If I understand correctly, a motion event must occur first so that it can be uploaded, and then servers can run AI classification for person detection, etc. So, we have to upload all basic motion events anyway. But we should be able to configure it such that, once classification has run, non-AI events just get deleted.
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I believe you understand it correctly (it must first be uploaded to be analyzed, then it could in theory be automatically deleted).
This would be good to have as an option and it would certainly benefit Wyze to do this (less storage for them being used and so a cost-savings on their AWS storage).
The only downside of this is sometimes an event with a person or other AI event is not identified correctly. This can be for any number of reasons, such as not enough pixels (too far away) or too dark to accurately identify it with reasonable accuracy, among other reasons. Those events would then be deleted and not recoverable. This would be an acceptable risk to some people, especially if they know that they had an SD card record everything as a backup.
To play Devilâs advocate thoughâŚwhy even delete these events? If we only want to see AI events and nothing else, we can simply set that as a filter and then for all practical purposes it works exactly the same as if everything else was deleted except AI videos. We can leave that filter set indefinitely and weâll never see any other events. Itâs pretty much exactly whatâs being asked for except that if something critical happens we can undo the filter and go look at other motion events if we need to (something was not identified for some reason).
I know some people like to delete everything they are done seeing immediately though, rather than wait for it to roll off after 14 days, so this autodeleting thing could be something offered for those who want it, and it wonât negatively impact those who donât. Maybe one of the mods can move this to be a wishlist item. (Edit: Oh this already existed as a wishlist and was merged, awesomeâŚthanks Seapup)
If Wyze does that then every one must have CAM plus account or their cameras are worthless
I think a better solution would be to only save the non Ai events for one week rather than 2 weeks this will improve the storage issue by 50 % for non-Ai events
I think there is a misunderstanding. OP isnât asking for this to forced on everyone, they are asking to allow this to be an OPTION solely for those who want it, but to let everyone else who doesnât want it to continue to have ALL their events stored for 14 days even without cam plus.
Nobody loses anything, it would be strictly a helpful option for those who like deleting all their videos after they view them and donât want to bother managing all the non-AI videos they already know that they donât care about viewing and wish were deleted already.
Everybody else (like me) who doesnât want these videos deleted would still keep their functionality the full 14 days. Iâm always supportive of more options like this even if I wouldnât personally use it or want it, I like things that help others get the functionality they want when it wonât hurt what I want. Optional things like this are great.
Exactly, it just seems such a waste to have hours of video of moving tree branches stored in the cloud for two weeks. So much better to have an option to just have the stuff that might be relevant stored and get rid of the rest.
So I understand that the recent change to the CP tier platform was designed to reduce Cloud Storage waste.
Here is a thought although Iâm not sure what topic to put it under.
I am a CamPlus subscriber on 12 cams. My cams are set to detect motion and a host of Smart AI. I only have notifications on for Smart AI. I do not have any cams that do NOT use the AI and I donât want notifications for non-AI motion.
I am only interested in the AI video clips. I have no use for the âdetects motionâ video clips. I have SD Cards installed on continuous record. If I want to watch trees wave or sunbeams dance, I can go there.
But, when I remove my filters in the events page that only show me the AI in the events tab, I see that there are thousands of videos in the events that were sent to the cloud for AI interrogation, but weâre NOT tagged AI.
I would gladly authorize Wyze to dump all non AI tagged clips immediately after they are deemed untaggable by the AI Bot. Give me a button to toggle that on and I will do it. Save a lot of seats on the bus for useful purposes.
Better yet, gust give me the option in the settings to âDelete all Non-AI tagged event clips after X hours\Daysâ. Again, free up space early instead of waiting 14 days incurring interest charges on the parking space.
Please consider this and provide thoughts and insight.
I am a first time user of the Cam V3, having just purchased and set it up a couple of days ago. I want to add my name to the list of people who have absolutely ZERO interest in having non-AI events stored in the cloud or on the micro-SD card in my iPhone. The ONLY thing I want to hold onto are those videos for which I have set an AI filter, in my case âperson detection.â As another user said, I have no interest in videos that recorded the leaves on shrubs waving in the breeze. I think you should provide an option (emphasis on the word OPTION) to not only turn off NOTIFICATIONS for non-specified AI events, but also the RECORDING of non-AI events. Seems like you (Wyze) would benefit, as would users. Other than the lack of this feature, Iâm quite happy so far with the device.
Welcome to the Wyze User Community Forum @sjmarano! Glad to have you aboard!
Wyze was listening when this wishlist topic started.
On the V3 (as well as multiple other cams) Wyze implemented the changes you mentioned in several tested Beta Firmware builds and into one Released Firmware build. Unfortunately, that Released Firmware build had to be halted while some Event Recording issues get ironed out. You should see these changes on your next firmware update of the V3 cam:
Optional ability to Record and Upload only AI Events to the Server:
although Iâm not sure what topic to put it under.
Glad to have you aboard! 
