Need advice with Wireless Broadband

If I turn on the whole stack at once it will pop a 20A breaker. I’ve got them divided among two circuits now but running them all at once requires earplugs and definitely keeps things nice and warm.

Some of the large switches we run take up to two 8000 watt power supplies so they can run POE on every port. I can take what I want from the “last generation” stack of hardware but definitely passed on those.

Honestly I still miss the physical keyboard.

Up until about 2002 we had 2-way pagers and regular cell phones, then the blackberries started from then, and I had them until probably 2015 or 2016 or whenever they died out. Got a new one every year or two. Started with a black and white one that was mostly only good for text and ended with full color with touch pad and pretty good graphics.

It just makes me think of a previous job when I went in early on a Saturday morning and discovered that the server room’s air conditioning unit had failed. Oof. :hot_face:

It also makes me think of users (at the risk of appearing sexist—though this is accurate in my experience—usually women who won’t routinely wear long pants) who like to stick space heaters under their desk or workstation areas. :roll_eyes:

I didn’t have that problem:

  1. I wear pants.
  2. That’s what the spare tower running Linux was for. :wink: (It had legitimate work purposes, but the extra warmth was nice in winter.)

Let’s be honest, they’re also usually just cold regardless of what they’re wearing :rofl:

My last company ended up banning the space heaters after a couple close calls.

We have plenty of alarms for all that, I would hate to work in a NOC, even a fan spinning too slow generates an alarm. But it (unfortunately) reminds me of the days after 9/11, we had an office and small data center in 1 World Financial at the base of the towers. The server/network room was central to the building and managed to survive. When one of the telco circuits came back online, we were just getting constant temperature alarms and watching it creep higher and higher, I want to say it peaked around 150F chassis which means the CPUs and ASICs were probably over 200. Finally the UPSes ran out of juice. When we finally got access to the building, the devices were packed solid full of that concrete dust, basically 0 airflow, the fans were spinning but useless. All the windows in the building were blown out so it just crept in under the server room doors and via HVAC etc.

When Cisco claims their stuff is military spec, they aren’t kidding. All the routers and switches fired right back up when power came on (and generated a nice new cloud of dust). The Cisco gear was running loud but otherwise normal, I’m guessing the fan bearings were all shot. Some of the servers and network appliances were making sounds I never want to hear again, almost like having to listen to a suffering dying animal. Everything in the building was disposed of as hazmat.

Hah, that reminds of the PowerMac Dual G5s, they had nine fans in them. Whenever you needed to get into the terminal (DOS equivalent) you had to boot them in a single user mode and that would shot down the thermal controller so all nine fans would come on full blast. You couldn’t hear the guy next to you :slight_smile:

We’re aging ourselves gentlemen, time for dinner and TV with the wife.

Have good night gents!

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I’m being honest. I’m also trying to stay out of unnecessary trouble. :grin:

We had a policy against it and would periodically remind staff about that, but there were some issues with buy-in:

  • The policy may not have had real teeth.
  • The president/CEO was a woman.
  • HR liked to enforce the dress code (which, incidentally, meant that IT personnel were supposed to wear business dress, just like the other male senior staff in the organization, including the acceptable shoes and neckties; :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: ridiculous on those days when we actually had to get on the :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: roof of the building to replace equipment or crawl under someone’s :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: desk to work on their :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: PC that their :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: space heater was :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: cooking).

:man_shrugging:

I liked most of the people there, but the management decisions frequently baffled me.

That’s impressive.

95% of this post is not even in a language I understand. I recommend we have a "“Crowd Source Fund” to help @habib run a good network cable or fiber to his hideaway. I will donate MFP, One :raccoon: , One Possum and one red squirrel.

For whatever reason most PCs when you do a BIOS/controller update do that. I guess since they can’t monitor temp during that process they play it safe. Sometimes they do it when they’ve totally lost power (capacitors have discharged too) for like 2 seconds on boot up. Just to remind you what they’re capable of.

Sadly most enterprise gear isn’t big on “only run the fans as fast as needed”. They usually have two speeds - obnoxious and jet engine.

Most of the gear I have now starts at jet engine then after 5 minutes slows to obnoxious unless you run it really hard.

When I ran this stuff full time I’d pick out ones that were fairly quiet (usually larger units with big diameter fans) then replace the fans with lower speed/quieter versions and just monitor the temperature.

That’s why my home servers were usually tower ones placed on their side on a rack shelf. Rack servers are just insanely loud no matter what you do, and too much risk to put slower fans in since their workloads can vary so much.

Hm maybe there is a case for loud fans after all :rofl:

I saw a video where they somehow got a cat to pull a string through a hole on one side of a deck to the other so they could pull a wire through. I think they tied it to its harness and called it from the other end. Genius, and the bastard finally earning his keep for once :rofl:

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What was the company name - Every Company Ever To Exist?

It is amazing how much work dress has changed since I started in the corporate environment circa 2000. COVID obviously made a huge change but even before that it was night and day compared to back then.

Guy I used to work with had to lay on his back on an inflatable raft to pull himself under a football stadium sized building over the ocean to run cables. Had to set an alarm for when the tide was going to start coming in or you’d die under there.

We had another building that was like 200 years old and the basement would flood every rain storm, All the telco cabling came in there, so all the racks had stuff on the top half only, and the bottoms were all rusty.

In a previous life in the late 90s when I did desktop support there was one particular lady (probably about 15 years older but whatever) who always wore skirts, and always went out of her way to give a show when I needed to do something under her desk.

Have your yard gang translate it to you, they speak tech :laughing:

That’s how my MacPros start as well. It “only” has four fans :rofl:. I guess the temp controller is software based and doesn’t kick in until the OS has loaded completely. At least that is the case with them. After it loads it’s considerably quiet unless I put it though it’s pace with something processor intensive, than the fans will speed up.

I hear you brother, looks like they are all made out of the same cloth :rofl:

Oh, the visual :scream:

Every couple years I’ll be visiting one of my parents and hear the fans running high, and I know they’re not doing anything intensive. Just time to take it outside and blow out all the dust.

Pretty sure the undergarments and the PC issues were both planned in advance.

I wasn’t complaining.

My last day at the company, there was no undergarment, and an unplugged LAN cable. Going away present I guess.

Undergarment is not a word I typically use but anything else seemed to be the wrong side of the inappropriate line (cutting it close as it is) :slight_smile:

:open_mouth:

Ok, I’ve been at the cottage since Wednesday night and I connected the new Nokia gateway and ran it through the ringer.

At first I was very disappointed, the signal strength was terrible. Even though Rogers advertises 5G on the island and have two towers within five miles on each side, no 5G signal is present. Only 4G and two out of six bars on the web interface and one out three lights on the gateway. The speeds I was getting were anywhere from 12/2Mbs to 30/3Mbs, much better than my DSL.

Didn’t notice any speed difference when connected directly to the Nokia vs the Eero so I connected everything through the Eero.

The next day I was able to work remote even when the wife was in view of the cameras and cameras constantly detecting motion. On DSL that was imposible as the motion detection would render the network useless and router rebooter would reboot the network due to failing DNS. With the present setup the router rebooter hasn’t kicked in at all. On DSL it would reboot at least once a day.

So far so good, except in the evening the upload speed will drop down to 0.5Mbs for couple of hours than it will bounce back. My average speeds hover around 20/2Mbs.

On Thursday morning around 9:3AM I lost connection for about 5 minutes. When the connection got established the speed jumped to an impressive 68/30 Mbs and I had four out of six bars signal strength. I was so excited but that only lasted for about an hour or so. Looks like Rogers has the ability to deliver faster service but…

In any case, I decided to keep the set up and ditch the DSL. I get marginally faster internet at third of the cost and all the cameras are working in Wyze Web Live, the four cameras at the cottage would never load before.

In my never ending quest to improve my internet connection I came across this YouTube video. Is this even possible or is this guy blowing smoke up everyone’s …?

Take a peek and let me know what you think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQoyUfNkcJg

EDIT: BTW, there is no throttling on my Plex server and I also tried Amazon Prime, didn’t notice any issue with it as well.

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5 Miles is very far, except for possibly long reach (sub 1ghz) 5G, which is lower capacity but still typically pretty decent.

Yeah I would assume at those speeds, any throttling wouldn’t be noticeable, the throttle is likely higher, I think you were seeing like 30/10 or something at home, so since you’re below that it shouldn’t impact you.

No comment.

If they’re anything like T-Mobile, they’re giving their wireless internet the lowest QOS priority, so even people with “de prioritized” MVNO cellular service get priority over your internet. So when a lot of people are using their phones, it will impact you. Of course if you had a fast 5G signal it would be a lot less impact.

Odd, that implies that either they have a 5G antenna closer to you that maybe they’re in the process of installing/upgrading (fingers crossed) or that there is a long reach 5G signal on those far away antennas that for some reason the modem does not want to stay connected to. Have you tried putting the Nokia up as high as you can for testing, (heck could even try putting it out a couple windows just to see). It is possible that it thinks the 4G signal is better due to being a higher frequency/capacity band, even though the signal strength is worse. Sort of like when a wifi device insists on sticking to a band that is slower. If you can’t get it to lock on to 5G again, then maybe you’re going to have 5G there soon when then finish the tower (sometimes the map gets updated before the actual service). Do you have a phone through them (or whomever they use for cellular, not sure if they have their own or are reselling someone else), does it show 5G?

Curious if you tested via the Eero during that hour and saw if it was being throttled, since those speeds are above what you were seeing get throttled before.

Do you mean the second “modem” he keeps referring to? That’s just a router, no different than your Eero. It is odd that he is seeing faster speeds on that where you were seeing it throttled, but maybe that video is from before the firmware that added the throttling? It says 1 year ago and I think the threads we saw about throttling being added were from earlier this year? He also mentions it is a gen 1 gateway and that there is now gen 3, not sure which you have, maybe the firmware is different and one has the throttling. Not surprising he’s seeing better wifi speeds on an external router, we know the wifi in these gateways is never all that great.

Well you probably won’t notice any throttling at those speeds, but need to look at the resolution and see if they’re down sampling it. When that happens I believe the app will still say “1080P” or “HD” because as far as it knows, that’s the stream it is pulling. But I’ve never tried it across anything that down samples so not positive. I’m assuming you’d know if it was 480P, but 720P can be hard to differentiate from 1080 depending on the screen size. But if it looks good, doesn’t really matter all that much. If your Plex server or home internet router has a bandwidth meter (and if you have one on the Eero or on a PC) you could compare the two to see if it is identical on the sending and receiving side.

Even if you can’t get it to stick to 5G and the higher speeds, relocating the Nokia might at least get you a bit faster speed on 4G and hopefully even reduce the impact of that “rush hour” slow down you’re seeing. But personally once I knew it was possible to connect to 5G, I’d be searching for a spot that it can lock onto that :slight_smile: Might even be worth a (sigh) call to their support to see if there is anything they can tweak in the Nokia or if they know that a new tower is coming online, etc.

Could just be total coincidence, maybe there is 5G there and has been, but they’re doing maintenance on the tower or something. That’s exactly what is happening at my house, the antenna down the road is down for upgrades (I can see them swapping the antennas and wiring) so I’m connected with only 2 bars to a more distant tower.

The varying speed sucks but it definitely seems the better of two turds (and much cheaper to boot). And hopefully it will be able to get 5G and then be significantly better.

:point_up: Doesn’t that qualify as a comment? :wink::smirk:

That was annoying me, too. :roll_eyes:

Pretty much makes me write off anything else in the video. I also couldn’t tell due to the accent if he was calling it an “ethernet” cable or an “internet” cable.

Not everyone is cut out to be a technical reviewer…

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Just so we are clear, nothing indecent, she just tends to her flower garden and clears some brush, constant movement in front of one camera to another :rofl:

The connection status doesn’t show any signal whatsoever.

That was the first thing I did, as far as I can tell it is in a sweet spot, without me taking it up the hill :rofl:

No, I don’t have the phone with them. Rogers is pretty big, they have their own cellular and cable infrastructure. They do resell to smaller ISPs though. That’s how I get my internet at home at a fraction of what Rogers charges.

The glitch, for lack of better term, of higher speed seemed like a reboot on their end to me. You might be right, they might be doing something to improve their service, fingers crossed for better.

I was connected through the Eero at the time the glitch happened, so I don’t know if it was throttled.

Yes, that to me seems absurd, but I guess he was using a router. As you said" “Not everyone is cut out to be a technical reviewer…”

I didn’t notice any downsampling. My TV is 4K but I don’t stream at 4K, even at home. All my Plex media is at 1080p and I couldn’t see any difference in quality. As you said, it is really hard to notice any difference between 1080 and 720p. I’m happy with the way my Plex media is working.

Yeah, I don’t think that will happen soon. I have bigger issues at hand, there are couple beavers that are wrecking havoc on my property. I found nine trembling aspens downed and one ready to fall on my cottage. That sucker was 60’ high and only about 30’ from the cottage. I had to take it down yesterday as the winds were picking up.
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I hope so as well. On another note, what’s your take on cell signal boosters? Are they worth entertaining or they are equivalent to snake oil?

That is funny you had to clarify that comment. This is a tough crowd. :grinning_face:

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Better safe than sorry :rofl:

BTW, I love the crowd here, not so much trolls and bashers :wink:

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