I picked up a Nokia FastMile 5G Gateway 3.2 from Rogers Canada for the cottage. Starlink was not an option, way too many trees. I’m hoping that I will have a good 5G coverage so I can ditch the DSL service.
I want to use my Eero 6 but it turns out that Rogers has blocked bridging on the Nokia Gateway. I’m guessing I only have two options:
Disable WiFi on the gateway and go with double NAT.
Use the Eero as an Access Point.
Pros and cons on the above options or is there a better option?
I’m thinking a third option but I am not sure if it is a good idea. What if I leave the gateway with its own SSID and password and just connect my Eero with a separate SSID and password and have two different WiFis. Would this work?
Yep, Makes most sense. Likely no noticeable speed difference between that way and bridge mode.
Sounds like you are not there all the time, you calling it a cabin. Might be worthwhile to pick up a device from Amazon that reboots the router if it notices loss of Internet connection. I’m to lazy to look without a request, but if you don’t find it on your own, post here again.
I tried the above and the speed dropped to half, not very impressed with that solution. As Crease mentioned above, I already have a rebooter and it works like a charm.
Around here most of us have fiber (Verizon FIOS). If you only have internet, you can use your own router connected directly to the fiber ONT box and all is well, which is what I have. However many people (not me) have TV service from them also. You essentially have to use one of their branded routers if you have TV service. There are many workarounds to get certain things to work, but no way to make the TV boxes get their firmware updates reliably (and a couple other gremlins) without their router.
Luckily the FIOS routers (even the older ones) have great routing and even NAT performance, so typically I’ll disable the wifi and just set up an AP for those people, since the routers don’t have very good wifi in them. That’s going to be the best performance. However I’m not familiar with that Nokia device, I guess you have to decide if you trust the firewall and NAT performance in it enough to let it be the only device doing that. And of course, you’ll probably lose some features of the Eero when runnning in AP only mode, not sure if you use any of those features or not.
Double NAT is an option if you’re not certain about the Nokia and/or want to maintain the Eero routing/firewall/security features. Generally, double NAT should not have a noticeable impact on performance, but it can interfere with some stuff (mostly gaming but sometimes VPN etc too - but the DMZ solution below resolves that). If you’re noticing a big performance hit with double NAT I almost wonder if it is just normal fluctuations in 5G speed that are coincidence? However when in this configuration, I usually recommend that people put the second router in the “DMZ” of the first router. While it doesn’t eliminate the second NAT completely, it allows things like uPNP (for gaming and some other stuff, but if you don’t need it, disable it since it is a potential security hole) to work and also makes the “job” of the first router easier. It is now just mapping one IP to another, not trying to dynamically manage TCP ports on those mappings also.
There are two types of DMZ - most routers support the basic one where the first router gets the public IP, and statically maps it to the private WAN IP of the second router. Some have a more advanced passthrough DMZ where the first router actually lets the second one obtain the public IP and is sort of a “Faux” bridge mode. That way the first router essentially is not doing any NAT at all. Not sure if the Nokia supports either one, I would hope it would at least have the first kind.
Using the wifi on both is an option but obviously now you need twice as much 2.4ghz spectrum (5ghz probably not an issue, plenty of bandwidth available). Depending how close your neighbors are, may or may not be an issue. But honestly, that’s adding complexity for basically no reason. I guess if you can’t find any setup where the Eero is not suffering a major performance hit, then you could have your high performance stuff connected directly to the Nokia SSID and stuff that needs extended range (like Wyze cams) connected to the Eero SSID since they don’t need high performance. But personally I’d rather figure out why there is a performance hit of having the second device, if they both perform fine on their own, there is no reason they shouldn’t be able to do double NAT with negligible impact.
If there is a significant difference, I’d suspect something like a duplex mismatch or cable issue between the Eero and the Nokia. Sometimes if you mix a 2.5G port and a 1G port (not sure if that’s the case here) they don’t negotiate properly and you may have to hardcode the speed/duplex on one or both of them. I’d also look at IPv6, maybe one has it enabled and the other doesn’t and that could confusing things, your clients will first try IPv6 if they see it is supported, then when it times out fail back to IPv4. Personally I just disable IPv6 across the board. There is nothing that actually needs it, and unless you’re really on top of the configuration it can cause issues or even security holes. You can leave it enabled on PCs etc, that’s fine, it only gets used for LAN communication and is automatic and pretty fool proof, but I totally shut it off in the router(s). And like I said, if you don’t need uPNP, disable that too.
There is another option where you totally disable NAT in the Nokia and use static routes so all it is doing is routing, and enable DHCP passthrough from WAN to LAN so your Eero can get the ISP’s IP, but I’m guessing the Nokia probably does not support the features needed for that and it is a semi-complex solution without much (if any) benefit over the DMZ setup. It is actually essentially the same thing as the “advanced DMZ” that some routers support.
Long story short
Nokia with Eero as AP only should be the simplest and best setup, as long as the Nokia has trustworthy security and you don’t need any extra features like VPN that the Eero may be doing for you.
Nokia and Eero both running as router with the Eero as the DMZ of the Nokia would be my second choice (or first choice if I don’t trust the Nokia or it doesn’t have the features I need).
In both cases I’d disable the wifi of the Nokia. Simpler and less contention for frequency spectrum.
Wow! This is exactly the reply I was expecting from you. Thanks you from the bottom of my heart.
It’s not that I don’t trust the device, is Rogers that I don’t. They are notorious for not pushing firmware upgrades. This is the reason why Rogers doesn’t push security patches: “Keep in mind that with Rogers using 464XLAT, your attack surface is greatly reduced because it does not allow for inbound IPv4 network connections from the public Internet. It keeps nuisance traffic off the Rogers network and makes it rather difficult for “the bad guys” to probe for weaknesses in your router/gateway.”
In my opinion that’s pure bull .
So, I took your advice and put the Eero as a DMZ of the Nokia. I had already disabled iPv6, I always do with all my routers. Turned the WiFi and Firewall off on the Nokia. Everything connects fine except the speed drops when going through the Eero. However, the Eero’s IP address is private, not public after setting it as DMZ. Not sure if that is fine.
I connected my Mac directly to the Nokia and I get consistent speeds of around 112/12Mbs, pretty good considering it is advertised as up to 100/10Mbs. Using Nokia’s WiFi gives me same results. When I switch everything to the Eero I get 35/8Mbs on both Ethernet and WiFi. Tried everything, swapped cables, rebooted things, no difference. I’m thinking that there is something in the Nokia that Rogers has coded that will throttle the connection if it senses another device . I know my Eero is fine as when I connect it to my cable modem I get consistent speeds around 995/49Mbs.
I think I can live with the lower speed this is faster and 2/3 cheaper than what I’m paying for my 9/0.7Mbs DSL. Also Nokia has two ethernet ports. I’ll connect my Eero on one and use the other for my computer when I go to the cottage. Or, even better, maybe the Eero at the cottage won’t have an issue.
EDIT: I forgot to mention, the Nokia has nowhere to assign custom DNS and on my Eero I have 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1. Not sure if that could be the issue but I’ll give it a try later on.
Long winded and excessive? That is my m.o. And to prove it, here’s another.
Translated - “Rogers does not have enough IPv4 IPs to give you one, so we assign you a fake one, and convert it to IPv6 through our network, then hide NAT everyone behind a small pool of IPv4 IPs when they hit the internet”. Many cellular and even small “traditional” ISPs are doing this because they can’t obtain enough IPv4 IPs (and they’re very expensive too). Many wireless networks are exclusively IPv6 and use 6to4 and 464 regardless.
While yes, that does technically give you a bit of inherent protection, they’re overselling it quite a bit. That also doesn’t explain why they’re not updating firmware and security, the 464 is done further into their network. More likely they just don’t want to bother putting the time and effort into testing and deploying the firmware and use the 464 as an excuse why it doesn’t matter.
If they support native IPv6 alongside IPv4 (dual stack), and you needed inbound connections, then you could probably use IPv6 for that. If not, then your only option for a VPN connection to the cabin for like remote admin would be a VPN client running on the cabin network that initiates a connection outbound to a VPN server somewhere, such as on your home router.
But if you don’t need inbound connections at all then it is fairly moot, you can even ditch the DMZ mode as most likely it isn’t buying anything (especially considering you’re still seeing the speed drop with it enabled).
That’s normal, I’m guessing the Nokia does not support the passthrough DMZ (or Rogers has disabled it). With 464 NAT it doesn’t matter anyway. If you look at the WAN IP on the Nokia, I bet it is also private - probably in the Carrier NAT range of 100.64.0.0 to 100.127.255.255 which isn’t internet routable. Then if you do a “whatsmyip” site, you’ll see some shared public IP they’re using for everyone. While technically if they had the passthrough DMZ and that carrier NAT IP ended up on the eero, it would potentially give some slight improvement in performance, it wouldn’t account for the speeds you’re seeing.
That’s not unlikely, though a bit strange. Many US carriers will throttle hotspot usage, which they can detect based a flag the phone sets when running in that mode. But in your case, the whole point of that device is to operate as a hotspot and that’s what they’ve sold you. Not sure why they’d want to try to prevent you from running a second router, unless they think people are going to set up a long range point to point wifi setup to share it with neighbors etc.
Actually here is a thread where it appears that’s exactly what they’re doing (these people are complaining the ethernet ports seem to be capped but maybe they’re all trying with routers connected? - sounds like you get full speed with a laptop connected to the ethernet ports?) Nokia Fastmile 5G Gateway 3.2 with slow ethernet p... - Rogers Community
So the question becomes, what are they using to detect that? One suspicion I have is it could be the MAC address of the connected device. It would be a pretty crude and stupid way of doing it but, never know. If you disconnect the eero WAN, clone the MAC address of a client device to it (phone, laptop, etc), then reconnect it, see if the speed improves.
Other than that, the ways of them detecting that you’re using a router are much more complex, looking at traffic patterns from that single IP and determining whether it is more than a single client would do. Seems like a lot of work for that Nokia box to do, but it is possible.
Depending on the features the eero supports, it may be possible to disable NAT and DHCP on it and have it act purely as a router/firewall, forwarding DHCP requests to the Nokia. But you’d need to be able to add static routes in the Nokia to make that work, and they may still detect it and throttle speed. Depending on how much time you have, it is something that could be worth a try though (assuming the eero and nokia have the necessary configuration options to make it work). But it might just result in the same speeds.
If nobody figures out a hack/workaround, the only way to get full speed may be to use the Eero as an AP only. You could potentially get a small 100M capable Layer2 firewall to put between them but that’s probably getting excessive. If no inbound connections are possible and your client devices have security/firewall on them, there is probably fairly little risk involved in running that way.
There is the “option 3” you were considering where you leave the nokia wireless and firewall enabled with different SSID (maybe only the 5ghz radio, disable 2.4) for devices where you want a lot of speed, and that have their own security built in, and use your eero for less secure devices which don’t need as much speed but need the improved range/coverage. However I’m wondering if once it detects you’re using a router, if it just starts throttling everything, even the client devices connected directly to it.
I would still try and check both the eero and nokia to see if you can find a screen telling you the status of the ethernet ports. A duplex mismatch (100/Full on one end and 100/Half on the other, or 1000/Full and 1000/Half) will cause a pretty big speed hit. If you see that, then it is a matter of trying to force them to match, hopefully both (or at least the one showing half duplex) will allow you to hardcode it. It is possible the port in the eero is different from the one in your laptop and the negotiation is only screwing up on one.
I’m not sure if the eero supports wireless WAN (pretty uncommon on most routers) but if it does, you could try connecting the eero to the nokia wirelessly and see if that changes anything too. Note this is different from “repeater” mode which you don’t want as it will bypass the router/firewall of the eero. But I’m guessing that probably won’t change anything. If you have a spare router that supports wifi to ethernet bridge mode, you can use that to create a wireless WAN off the eero. Obviously 3 devices is getting pretty excessive, that would only be for the “curiosity” factor to see if they’ve only applied a limit to the LAN ports potentially. But if it did make it operate at full speed, that extra layer 2 bridge in there might not be a terrible thing… It would definitely be a hack, one that they might close in the future.
Another thing I thought of, when you wired your Mac directly to the Nokia to test, it could have still been using wifi. Test again and disable wifi in your Mac to confirm if the physical ports are actually able to pass the full speeds or not? Maybe it is as simple as they’ve locked those ports to slower speeds as seems to be suggested in that thread I linked.
If that is the case, and you want the full speeds plus the Eero, your only option might be to put a wifi to ethernet bridge in between the nokia and eero (assuming the eero doesn’t support wireless WAN). But that may be getting excessive, especially if you aren’t constantly doing stuff that requires a lot of bandwidth. The “mixed” solution of some devices on Nokia wifi and some on eero probably makes more sense in that case, assuming the nokia doesn’t throttle everything down.
Also just saw your edit. DNS shouldn’t affect your throughput at all. It can have some impact on the speed that pages load etc but likely not anything noticeable, and those two (Cloudflare) generally perform very well.
Oh and by the way
Ouch. In reality, even if you are stuck with 35/10, that’s probably more than enough, maybe file downloads take a bit longer but that’s plenty to stream simultaneous 4k videos, have multiple cams streaming outbound, etc.
Are you kidding me? That is exactly what the doctor prescribed. I [Mod Edit] love your replies! Right now I don’t have the time to get back to you on all the above points, but I will definitely hop on in the morning. I am an early riser, I wake up around 4:00 AM, so watch for my replies
I am Canadian (well, 2 generations removed) so we speak the same language.
Except I never learned French, so not literally.
I normally do not admit to that in public though
In my job I deal with a lot of customers in Canada and they see my French last name and start talking French. Then I have to go through the embarrassing explanation that I chose to take Spanish in high school rather than my “native” tongue.
Then, since it has been so long, I make an attempt to speak Spanish with our LatAm customers and when they talk back it is 1000x too fast and I’m like, sorry, I tried. “Lo siento, en ingles por favor?” “Yeah, Gringo, we speak 3 languages, we got you covered.”
The above is above my pay grade. My knowledge of VPN is NordVPN installed on my iPhone, Macs, iPad and AppleTV. The reason I chose Eeros is that they are remotely managed through the app, unlike some other routers that the app needs to be on a local network.
All I see is IPV4 Address 192.168.1.1
Thanks for sharing that link, not sure how I missed it as that Is how I found out that the Nokia can’t be bridged. One person mentioned that he connected his laptop directly. I’m guessing because I am using a Mac and somehow Nokia or the Mac are treating the connection differently . To eliminate that the issue is my Eero, I connected two different routers that I have in my closet and I got same results. If I remember correctly, when I first set it up I was getting consistent speeds of 100/10 through the Eero, Then I had to step away for couple of hours, and maybe then the firmware upgrade got pushed .
Again, above my pay grade.
There are three options in the Eero for DHCP & NAT: Automatic, Manual IP and Bridge. However that again is above my pay grade.
I tried to do that but I was getting “Oops, something went wrong”. Either they’ve blocked the feature or I was doing something wrong.
I think I am going to leave it as is in DMZ mode and connect my Mac to the second port on the Nokia for the full speed. I don’t have any high speed devices, two iPads two iPhones, four Wyze cams, some smart plugs and lights. Also I have a Smart TV and an Android box, but those won’t matter as Rogers is throttling streaming services such as Netflix and Prime to 3Mbs (yes 3Mbs is correct) and 720dpi only. It doesn’t matter to me as I don’t use those services at the cottage. I use Plex and I doubt that they’ll throttle that as it comes from my own Plex server at home.
What is weird is that when I run the Speed Test on the Eero app it gives me higher download speeds vs the Speed Test app by Ookla on my Mac and iPhone.
I looked everywhere, even under the bed , I can’t find that info on either one.
Unfortunately, not.
I have a WiFi 6 Mesh Huawei that I retired for security reasons, somewhere in the garage. It might support wifi to ethernet. I’ll go and look for it in the garage later and see what it can do.
Not a chance. My Mac is desktop and even though it has WiFi I keep it off. I am very picky when it comes to some devices, if they have wired Ethernet, I always use that, even for my TVs.
I don’t speak French either. Just so we are clear, I am naturalized Canadian, I was born and raised in North Macedonia, former republic of Yugoslavia.
Thanks for all the advice. Probably we could’ve done all this via DM but I thought it might be useful to someone else as you my friend, are wealth of information!
If you don’t need remote access to the cabin while away, then ignore anything about VPN or inbound connections, not needed. I’m guessing you’re not doing serious gaming there either.
That’s likely the LAN of the Nokia, somewhere it probably lists the WAN, but it is pretty much a moot point, doesn’t matter what they’re handing out if they’re using 464.
Seems like it started with a firmware update, at least according to that thread, so that’s a valid theory. Do you still get 100/10 from your hardwired computer now?
If the computer still gets 100/10, it is very possible they’re simply applying the throttling to MAC addresses (not to be confused with the computer brand Mac, talking about hardware addresses that every device has) that are registered to common router companies. They can tell the brand and sometimes even the device type from the first 6 digits of the MAC. So plugging in one laptop brand might get throttled (Asus makes routers and uses the same MAC range for both) where another might not.
If you want to try it, going into the eero and cloning a LAN MAC to WAN should be pretty straightforward and doesn’t take long even if just for a test. To be safe, just pick a LAN device that will never connect directly to the Nokia (either wired or wifi) like one of the Wyze cams or something. If it doesn’t work, can undo it, doesn’t hurt anything to try. I mean, I’m assuming the Eero has that functionality, most routers do.
Fair enough, If you want wireless for ipad or whatever and want it to get the higher performance, you should be able to turn on the 5ghz radio in the Nokia too and use that. Though I’m still curious if once it “sees” a router connected if it throttles everything or not. You can leave DMZ enabled, but maybe simpler to just shut it off, it isn’t doing anything for you if there are no inbound connections set up/possible. Probably no big difference one way or the other from a performance or security perspective. Normally I do DMZ when there is just the 1 router connected and nothing else, but it will work in the mixed setup too, especially since there are no inbound connections possible, it really isn’t doing anything either way.
I suppose in theory if there was an inbound connection (perhaps from within their network before the 464 happens) AND the Nokia has major security flaws, it should force that inbound attempt to the Eero and thus the Eero’s firewall etc, effectively making the other devices directly connected to the Nokia “invisible”. But that scenario is pretty far fetched/remote.
Not uncommon with wireless carriers. Most in the US only do it on “unlimited” plans but some do it on other packages also. 480 or even 360 on many of the discount unlimited plans, so 720 isn’t too bad.
If they’re throttling based on detecting a video stream, it will probably impact that also, but the only way to know is to try. But this is a scenario where setting up a VPN server at home and connecting to it from the cabin could bypass their limitations. You could even route Netflix and Prime via that path potentially. Heck there are even potential ways to possibly bypass their overall throttling that way, but that’s getting a bit overkill.
Interesting, that implies that maybe they’re doing the throttling based on something more advanced than a MAC address or a physical port. Or it could just mean the app isn’t giving an accurate view for whatever reason. The best test will be going to speedtest.net from your wired desktop when plugged into the Eero and when plugged into the Nokia, using the same speedtest server.
The only reason I think that could potentially help is if they are limiting the speeds of the physical ethernet ports only, then connecting the eero via wifi might give you full speed. But if it is looking at MAC addresses or something else, it will probably result in the same thing. More of a “out of curiosity” thing to try.
OK disregard some of what I said earlier. Though I am curious if it still gets full speed after the potential firmware update happened.
Ah so we both get the same attitude if we visit Montreal.
I always prefer to keep things in the thread for exactly that reason, sort of the point of a forum right?
No, not a gamer, never was, never will. I do need remote access, that’s why I want to use Eero. I might have to do some research how to set up a VPN and inbound connections, but that is story for another time.
Yes I do.
That much I know
I’m not sure it does, I haven’t seen the feature but I can always look it up.
I don’t think I need high performance for the iPads, one is used as a monitor to view Wyze cams in a group of four the other one is my wife’s, she only uses it to check Facebook and surf the net.
It throttles everything going through that router, when I leave the Nokia radios on and connect the phone the speed is normal, if I switch to the router’s radios it drops down.
From what I understand, they are throttling based on servers, like Netflix, Prime, Disney… But as you said, I won’t know till I try.
I’m guessing Eero’s speed test is not that accurate as it rounds everything up. No decimals.
Looks like I have either tossed the router or it’s at the cottage. Couldn’t find it in the garage. If it is at the cottage, I will give it a try second week of October when I get there.
Yup. it still does.
Yeah, Montreal is the worst. I’ve been to Quebec City few times, much better attitude, maybe because it is riddled with tourists
If you have the eero handling wireless with the Nokia radios disabled, does your desktop still get full speed connected to the other LAN port? I wonder if it is as simple as if you disable wifi they throttle the speed. When it comes to ISPs and fairly low powered client devices they provide/support, often their measures are pretty simple and crude, which is why people often find hacks and ways around them. Guess it comes down to whether you want to spend time fiddling with it. Sounds like having your desktop wired to the Nokia and the Eero doing wireless for everything else (assuming the desktop gets 100/10 in that setup) is probably going to give you the best of both worlds.
Of course this all makes me realize, had the Nokia updated its firmware, then you connected the eero, saw you were getting significantly higher speed than DSL at 1/3 the price and never seen the 100/10, you’d be perfectly happy and we’d have saved some forum space. But once you see that more is possible, we just can’t get that out of our head. I remember when FIOS gave me a free upgrade from 100/100 to 300/300 and my router at the time could only hit about 250, it bugged me to no end, but I got over it since I barely ever download something large enough that it made a significant difference, then eventually got a new router for other reasons, and got the full amount.
Kinda like going to the beach with the most beautiful girl (or guy) in the world, we’ll always manage to find another one to look at. Human nature I guess.
Then of course you could take that Nokia to the cabin, which I’m assuming is more rural, and find it can’t do 100/10 there and the speed cap doesn’t even matter, and all this is for nothing
Yes it does, with the radio on or off. I’m guessing it sees the MAC address and it realizes it is not a router so it doesn’t throttle.
That’s what I’m thinking too.
Totally agree, also that is why I started this thread in the Watercooler section.
That is what I am afraid too.
In any case, we tried (more you than me) and I thank you for that. Hopefully enough people will complain to Rogers and they will force Nokia to fix the firmware, highly doubt it though as Rogers is worst than Wyze when it comes to listening to its customers.
Thanks again and catch you around the forum. There are other battles to fight and hopefully win
Did a quick search and it looks like Eero does not support MAC cloning, a fairly common feature that has been around for ages. Oh well. If you ever wanted to try it, you could grab some old router somewhere that supports the feature just to see if that’s how they’re choosing what to throttle.
I suspect they won’t “fix” the firmware, it seems like an intentional move on their part, not really any other explanation.
I guess the next step is see what speeds you get at the cabin and if there is even any difference at all in that location. But sounds like even if you do still see a restriction for the Eero, you’ve got a plan and it should let you use the higher bandwidth for the one device that will really benefit from it.
The next battle would be if you want to set up a VPN from the cabin to your plex box or home router (or any device that can act as a VPN server). Will let you bypass a lot of their speed restrictions and video compression, and depending on the device you use, might even bypass their overall throttling. But if you end up getting full resolution from your plex box without them throttling it, even that is probably unnecessary, unless you want Netflix, prime, youtube, etc in 1080P or 4K.
Of course they could be blocking common VPN protocols to prevent people from bypassing their restrictions.
This is the sort of thing I’d probably toy around with a lot to try and bypass their restrictions as much as possible, but understood that isn’t something that most would invest a lot of time in.
Eeros are good routers but are severely crippled. Amazon doesn’t sell a router, they sell a service and they want a subscription fee. That way they are in control as most of the features are either hidden or accessible by Amazon only. The reason I went with Eeros is their range, number of supported devices, remote management and security. The Eero team at Amazon are on top of security, I get security patches on average twice a month. They happen in the middle of the night without my intervention.
That is correct. That one device is my work computer and I use TeamViewer to connect to the office. TeamViewer is not that demanding, as I was doing fine on 10/1Mbs with four Wyze V3 running in the background. Then the CamUnlimited fiasco happened, and I couldn’t have TeamViewer and cams running simultaneously. I hope Nokia will solve that provided I have a strong 5G signal.
That is something that I’m going to learn and research how to do it. We don’t watch a lot of TV up there unless it’s raining. Maybe a movie, or couple shows at night.
I think they are according to the Rogers forum.
I’ll see how it pans out once I go there.
Thanks
EDIT: My old Netgear router supports MAC cloning, I’ll give it a try on the weekend.
As we speak they’re down upgrading the T-Mobile antenna near my house (cleverly hidden under the steeple of an old school) to the Ultra Capacity network. My phone diagnostics have gone from 200M link speed to 1.7G. I suspect there will be door knockers trying to sell their wireless internet soon. Will be using the speaker in my wyze cam frequently - “GO AWAY”.
I’ll wait 'til the day before my 5GB per month plan renews in a few days and run a speed test (eats up like a gig of data) but most with it get in the 800-900M range. But I prefer the stability and latency of fiber, so I’m all set. More competition is always good though.
DSL service.
. I know my Eero is fine as when I connect it to my cable modem I get consistent speeds around 995/49Mbs.
