Monitoring & Snooze Don't Work Together

HELP! @spamoni @WyzeJasonJ

MONITORING OVERRIDES ALL AUTOMATIONS AND SNOOZE BELL! When Wyze app added “monitoring” tab, it was great because it allows to set “Critical” push notifications to bypass “Do Not Disturb” rather than doing it in OS settings. HOWEVER, it DESTROYED “Snooze” Bell and Automations!

Example: Say Monitoring is set to “Home”. My partner is asleep, and I want to go to the mailbox to get the mail. If I change monitoring to “Disarmed”, it sends a push notification that bypasses “Do Not Disturb” on phones and wakes my partner up. If I go outside, cameras send push notifications that bypass “Do Not Disturb” and wake my partner up.

If I push the “Snooze” bell, it doesn’t matter. It’s now non-functional. Has been for serveral months. Newest app push added “Snooze My Cameras” Automation. Monitoring overrides all Automations and they don’t matter. Right now, I have three options: Wake everyone up? Or train everyone to ignore security alerts? Or have everyone turn off all phone sounds. I have 36 Wyze cameras on plan…and they’re now all a pain in the…

I will see if there is something about this for you.

However, I think the notification is phone / app specific. I can test this out as well. If this is the case, then each person in the house would need to set there app up accordingly.

I do know when I set mine up, if I toggle the Bell in the app to off, I get no notification even though I have notifications set to override Do not disturb.

But will do a few tests and see what I come up with.

Hopefully, @WyzeJasonJ can provide some insight on this as well.

@spamoni Mine used to work that way until about two months ago when I downloaded and installed the newest app and it had the “Monitoring” tab on the bottom. Ever since then the Monitoring tab overrides the bell and the automations; including the new “snooze my camera” automation.

It is not phone specific. It didn’t do it on my old Moto G Power, although since the addition of monitoring, it now does it on my wife’s new Moto G Power. I now have a Samsung S24. It does it there as well. It also does it on my mom’s iPhone 5. So that data says it’s not phone specific.

I can tie it to the very time when “monitoring” started. I broke my Moto G7 power and had to get the Samsung S24. When I downloaded the app fresh, it had the “monitoring” on it. Then I downloaded the app update on the other phones. Now, the bell and automations don’t work anymore and I can’t get rid of the “monitoring” to “go back”. @WyzeJasonJ

I am reasonably high-level technical and write code. Some code in the monitoring feature is overriding the “snooze” bell and the “snooze” automations. I really like that it automatically overrides “Do Not Disturb” so that I don’t have to set it up on the OS (System setting for notifications) on every different phone. But I need the snooze back. Thanks in advance.

Thanks for the added info. I never used Alexa for anything other than person, so was not aware of what the other options were.

@spamoni @WyzeJasonJ Hopefully the extra information helps troubleshoot. To be clear, I’m not using Alexa or any similar home system. Just the phone app. On three different phones (i.e. one Moto, one Samsung, one iPhone) With both Android and iPhone OS.

Have done all the troubleshooting things (e.g. uninstall/reinstall, etc.). I think this is a “relatively” simple code fix. Hopefully getting a trouble ticket in front of the right people will help. For a 36-camera, two-property array, it’s more than a minor pain. I appreciate the help. Keep me posted as you’re able to push it forward.

Sorry to mention Alexa here, I mixed 2 responses.

@spamoni No problem. Just more information to make sure someone is able to zero in on this. As a coder, I know that the more specifics one can give troubleshooting, the easier it is to laser-in on the line that’s busted.

Yea, I am a coder as well, and share your sentiments.

As you may know, I am a volunteer forum member and pass items to Wyze when I can. I will reach out and see if we can get a response.

Much appreciated, bro.

@spamoni @WyzeJasonJ Interesting data point: Yesterday, “Monitoring” was set to “Disarmed” for all cameras. I was moving in and out of the view of 6 different cameras. Only one kept sending me push notifications regardless of whether “Monitoring” was set to “Disarm”. Monitoring continues to be “buggy”. Happy Easter, all!

UPDATE: Poster acknowledges a feature was missed. Now poster wants to know why multiple calls to Tech Support AND convos with “moderators” here were not able to provide anyone who could point out user was idiotic for 9 months? Would have accepted the rebuke.

Monitoring Modes offers only three options for action: Mute, Alarm, or Critical.

Mute - stops all notifications

Alarm -triggers a sound at the camera (largely a way to annoy your neighbors when there is a false trigger).

Critical does what it is supposed to do…badly. Critical pushes notifications to your phone regardless of whether Do Not Disturb is on or not. So, a person with a large array (i.e. >10) of indoor and outdoor cameras would want this to be on.

For example, when we are at home sleeping, we want to know if anything triggers any of the cameras in the array because people are prowling outside or perhaps grandma with dementia is sleep walking in the living room again. We WANT those notifications to come to the phone because we want to be able to wake up and confirm whether we should call authorities or not. We WANT these to set the phone settings to override Do Not Disturb. This way, we don’t have to take annoying spam calls about our car’s extended warranty at 1:30 in the morning, but we can still get awakened if we have intruders.

The problem is that the Monitoring Modes (i.e. Mute, Alarm, or Critical) bypass ALL WYZE AUTOMATIONS. A Cam Unlimited Subscriber paying for dozens of cameras cannot remove cameras from the Monitoring Modes.

So Bill wakes up at 0600 and Julie, his wife, is still in bed.

Problem 1: Monitoring sends a notification that bypasses Do Not Disturb when status changes from Away to Home to Disarm. See what follows…

Problem #1.1: When Bill turns the Monitoring from Away to Home to disarm the interior camera notifications, it sends a notification that it just changed status…thereby WAKING JULIE UP…thereby defeating the point of trying to mute a notification; theoretically so Julie doesn’t get awakened because…”happy wife, happy life!”

“Critical” mode in Monitoring overrides all mutes and automations in the rest of the Wyze app, it is impossible to disarm the notifications for JUST the Driveway group. Changing to “Disarm” mode sends a notification that the status changed, so it still wakes Julie up. So when Bill now walks outside to get in the car to go to work, it will send a series of notifications as he triggers every Driveway camera in Home Mode; each one waking Julie up…and making both Bill and Julie progressively more pissed off.

The alternative work-around considered is that Bill sets Monitoring to Disarm at 0600 and rearm as Home at 0700. This option may reduce the number of times Julie is awakened from 7 times to 2 (1 wake-up for each Monitoring Status Change…), but…that’s little consolation. Julie has a hard time going back to sleep.

Problem #2: The monitoring function also does nothing to mute the doorbell motion camera at all. So when Bill’s mom goes for a walk at 06:30, that one goes off, too. And there is no way to mute that camera anymore.

The poorly conceived addition of the monitoring function in the app pretty much *@#$ed everyone because one now has two basic options: either your stuff is “on” or “off”. And it will send a notification to let everyone know that it is changing status. Therefore, it’s like that annoying ex-girlfriend who calls at 0200 saying, “I’m only calling you to let you know that I don’t want to talk to you anymore.” Certainly not worth paying for!

The elegant coding solution to this would be to STOP OVERRIDING OTHER WYZE AUTOMATIONS! For example, the Monitoring Status may be set to “critical” the “Silent for 30 minutes” is selected, there are not “critical” or “non-critical” notifications to be sent! It was intentional!

A little more coordination between coding teams would be beneficial instead of each team working in silos. The coding team working on Automations did a really nice thing adding the “Silent Notifications for 30 Minutes”, but the team coding Monitoring screwed them over by making their efforts moot. There remains a “mute” button on the Home Page of the app in the top right corner, but the Monitoring coding geeks cleverly disabled that.

So basically with Wyze, it’s now “All or nothing”. They have the veneer of being able to control an array, but because they’re rolling out new features and not listening to how those new features are screwing big subscribers, they’re making their company into a glorified cloud-based web-cam for watching your Golden Retriever lick it’s butt when you’re bored at work.

These are minor problems for people with one camera basically spying on the dog in the living room or watching a baby. For those I know paying for subscriptions on literally hundreds of cameras, this makes the Wyze system a useless POS. The moderators here have buried this issue in the “vote for” stuff, which won’t make it to the top because people with one camera don’t have a problem here, or it’s a more manageable issue.

I am about ready to rip out the Wyze system entirely from all of the users I manage and trash this $(@#. Need help now. Understanding that programming takes time, I have been bitching about this for 9 months now, and have heard nothing except from some Tier-1 foreign call center lackey who can’t do anything.

Wyze is an abomination of a Security Camera System.

I bailed a while ago and only use Wyze cams as TOYS in areas not needing an Actual Security Camera.

It is possible they have added a fix. I just noticed that they added “Push” as an option on the Monitoring. Will try it out and see what the behavior of that one is. Then will need to go into the phone and set the phone notifications for this app to “Bypass Do Not Disturb” manually. Everything worked fine when I was using automations. “Monitoring” came along and messed it up.

Will be willing to admit if they addressed it. But basically it just makes “Monitoring” mode …useless.

Either, they just added the “Push” option in Monitoring (i.e. pending test) and no one in Technical Support knows about it…despite me sending screen shots earlier today, or it’s been there and I missed it since they rolled out “Monitoring” 9 months ago and no one at any level of Technical Support or in any of these forums or any of the Moderators could tell me (despite several interactions). Five years ago when they were much smaller, their CS was MUCH better.

Push has always been there

Good to know. Will admit I am an idiot for missing it. Would have thought that 4-5 interactions with Tech Support to ask how to configure it would have been more fruitful. Theoretically, competent tech support can answer the easy ones to help configure features?

You’re assuming Wyze software features stay stable over time. :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

You do have a valid point as botched as Wyze updates can be :rofl:

Not with Wyze offshore support, all the representatives read the same script, if it doesn’t fit the script they’ll likely feed you BS or just somehow be disconnected :rofl:

Just to equal time this a bit.

March 2024. Still holds. :disguised_face: