I would like to suggest a millimeter wave presence sensor. This video for this smart home enthusiast that built his own sensor is pretty slick and I think Wyze could do an awesome job of creating their own mmwave sensor.
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I wish more people were interested in this wishlist item. I am hoping that as Aqara’s Presence Sensor FP2 gains popularity and exposure that it will drive a higher demand for cheaper alternatives to be developed, including from Wyze. I mean just look at the AWESOME stuff these mmWave devices can do…
Up to 30 zones, 320 cells, plus Matter compatible, mmWave could actually be the dream answer lighting automation and room automation in general. I think almost every company will be looking into either offering mmWave in some way or else finding a way to use WiFi signals to determine when there is a person present.
But if Wyze doesn’t do mmWave, I wish they’d come up with some OTHER solution for lighting automation. ANY solution. Right now there isn’t really an option. They could allow something like “when a camera is clear for X Minutes” then turn off lights, or something like that. That is a possible solution, but for right now, we don’t have any (that I know of).
Anyway, I just added my vote to this wishlist. I hope Wyze will reconsider mmWave in the future, sometime after 2023 “Year of the camera” is over. I’m sure a lot of it has to do with finding a supplier…but since Aqara is just Xiaomi, and Xiaomi doesn’t really make much of their own stuff either (they always use ODMs for their stuff), Wyze could probably use the same or a similar supplier and modify something similar to their own specifications and add to the firmware, etc like they always do.
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I wish it would get more votes as well. mmWave will be a game changer for smarthome automations as you say Carver. I appreciate the detailed info you added to this topic as well. Hopefully these will catch the eye of other users and get this topic more eyeballs.
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I was about order the Aqara FP2 from Amazon but it was sold out. That popularity should inspire Wyze to jump into the mmWave sensors. They are so good and fast! Please make it happen!
Yeah, they went on sale and I bought up 3 of them (and so did several of my buddies). Haven’t installed them yet, but I am excited. I have all my Wyze bulbs and some other stuff linked to Home Assistant, Google and Alexa and are going to have these presence sensors control my lighting, and other stuff automatically now.
There are several other presence sensors on the market, some for as low as $10 each, but none nearly as advanced as the Aqara one yet. Seemed worth the cost for a few rooms to have it. I might get some of the cheaper ones for some other areas that don’t need as much customizability, such as in a hallway or stairway where there is only 1 zone needed anyway.
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I would love to see a mm presence sensor from Wyze!
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Adding my vote. The IR motion sensors wise sells for security purposes are basically unusable in a building with forced air heating; at normal settings they see the plume of warm air from my mini split heat pump as motion, and if I turn down the sensitivity enough to prevent that they stop seeing human motion.
I don’t need huge amounts of sophistication, just enough for security and home automation, connecting via a secure protocol (preferably Z-Wave or zigbee rather than Wi-Fi) and able to be integrated into the wyze security hub.
If wise doesn’t want to do this, I am willing to abandon the wyze ecosystem entirely in favor of someone who does. Frankly, for most of my applications, mmwave is actually a better solution than cameras.
The wyze sense home security suite includes infrared motion detectors. Unfortunately, these perform horribly in a house with mini split heat pump systems. During heating season, they see the plume of heated air as motion, and if I turn down the sensitivity enough for that not to be a problem they stop noticing humans.
The obvious solution would be to switch to millimeter - wave radar presence detection units. Modules which implement this and can be trivially interfaced to a microcontroller are now widely available and fairly inexpensive even in single unit quantities. Ithould be almost trivial for you to take the existing motion detector core and retarget it to this new sensor.
Some of these have additional features of interest too, such as fall detection, ability to count number of occupants, and the like. That would make these especially useful for integration with home automation.
- HAVE YOU CONSIDERED ADDING RADAR PRESENCE DETECTION TO YOUR PRODUCT LINE, AND IF SO WHEN MIGHT WE HOPE TO SEE IT REACH THE MARKET?
I could implement this myself, but then there is the question of how to interface it with the presumably encrypted communication protocols of the Wyze Sense system. The best ideas I’ve had so far involve butchering one of your door or window sensors, replacing its reed switch with a transistor triggered by the presence detector. Or perhaps using the contacts on the water sensor the same way. Not exactly elegant but perhaps worth trying. It would help if I didn’t have to invent that from first principles, though.
- HAVE YOU CONSIDERED DOCUMENTING WAYS TO INTERFACE CUSTOM/EXPERIMENTAL INPUTS TO THE WISE SENSE SYSTEM?
These would be AWESOME to have. I could replace my motion sensors in stairwells.
Wyze, how about releasing a mmWave/PiR motion sensor for use with bulbs, light strips, and air purifier. Would be a great addition for any future home products as well.