Mesh Router Pro: Ethernet Backhaul w/Bridge Mode

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I have a Verizon Router which I need to have in place if I want a DVR and Programming Guide. VZW no longer allows their set-top boxes to run via Ethernet. So I’m going to use the VZR Router as the router to handle DHCP/DNS, Port Forwarding, Etc.

I have two Mesh Pro routers. Root device is connected via MoCA (bonded 2.5) to the WAN port of the mesh router. Internet connects and I have a green light, but speeds are sluggish even just 5 ft from the AP. (12Mbs down on a 1gb connection. Upload maxes out)

If I connect the second mesh router, it pairs OK and stays green with wireless backhaul, but if I connect an Ethernet Backhaul (via another MoCA device) I get a red light, it’ll flip to green for a minute or so then go back to red for 5-6 mins and keep alternating. If I go wireless, we’re Ok.

The mesh router is in bridge mode so I’m not double NATed.

Does the Wyze Mesh Router Pro allow an ethernet backhaul in bridge mode?
As an aside, why would I receive such terrible speeds with this router? Hardwired the I max out, but going sub 30mbs in the same room is unacceptable. And that’s with only 4 devices connected to it (new hoe, toys aren’t here yet).

Thanks in advance. Attached is a diagram to help.

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I have a couple of questions just to clarify your setup. Is there a reason you are using the Coax and not the Ethernet connection from the Verizon Router and then connecting to the Wyze Router?

Also, you can connect the Wyze Router up to the ONT and eliminate the Verizon Router. Then you can use the Moca Device to connect your Coax and receive Video on Demand and the Guide from Verizon.

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Probably has a multi-level house prewired with coax, wants to take advantage of ethernet backhaul and doesn’t feel like cutting drywall, drilling studs and fishtaping ethernet cable through the walls.

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That should work, but I believe you would need a switch. So basically, Router to Moca to a Switch. then port 1 from Switch to Moca for coax 1 and then switch port 2 woul go to Moca to Coax 2.

Or you could use Port 1 from the Verizon Router to a Moca to Coax 1 and the Port 2 from the Verizon Router to a Moca to Coax 2

I have not set up Bridge Mode, but even in that mode, does there need to be a primary Wyze Router First?

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Is part of the problem possibly the coaxial splitter? I don’t imagine this is a smart device, so I’m curious about a signal or collision issue with just throwing a simple splitter in there. :man_shrugging:

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That is what I was thinking. That is why I was indicating that each Ethernet port on the Verizon Router should connect to a Moca Device then to a Coax line. Thereby removing the splitter

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If using existing coax as a MoCA network, you use a MoCA splitter two run two lines, not a switch.

I don’t know if this is 1st attempt to use their existing coax. If true, they’re going to have to look for a bunch of in-line stuff related to previous cable use. Like amplifiers, frequency filters, etc. Here’s an article that covers a lot of the things to check, but not all:

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Hey all, thank you for the replies! Let me try an answer some questions:

… Is there a reason you are using the Coax and not the Ethernet connection from the Verizon Router and then connecting to the Wyze Router?

I moved in four days ago and Ethernet is not run, however, Coax is available throughout the rooms I need it. I’ve used MoCA in the past and it’s been very reliable. Maybe not the long-term solution, but should be a suitable long term solution.

Also, you can connect the Wyze Router up to the ONT and eliminate the Verizon Router. Then you can use the Moca Device to connect your Coax and receive Video on Demand and the Guide from Verizon.

Not anymore. I was under this impression, too, and was going to eliminate anything VZW beyond the ONT. They’re now going towards IPTV and if you want VOD, programming guide, and other digital features, the connection needs to come from the VZW router. Even crazier, the new generation of set top boxes don’t have ethernet OR Coax and rely on a hidden IoT network broadcasting from the router. And yes… this is creating lots of headaches for techs who have to do new installs in larger homes where the router can’t reach the box. But I digress.

I don’t know if this is 1st attempt to use their existing coax.

It is since it’s a new home. VZW was also previously installed (also Fios.) They just used the router in another room which was hooked up via Coax. This old setup is not supported by the new ONTs which need to connect via Ethernet (see above). My tech ripped out all the old ONT stuff but the existing cables are used.

I’ll try adding a PoE filter in front of the MoCAs which I’ve heard can help.

There’s lots here about MoCA which I will continue to investigate, however, by directly connecting a laptop to the MoCA adapter I can pull full speeds, only when the Mesh Router is installed my speeds tank.

Do I need to consider anything in the firewall that Wyze does like with ICMP or other protocols that may not be going through?

And I still can’t figure out if Bridge Mode supports ethernet backhaul. I’ll place a support ticket and check back in with this post for future readers.

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I can’t explain this, but when I removed the Wyze Mesh Router Pro from the equation and added back in my old Netgear AP, my speeds hit 890+/- both up and down. Resetting both Wyze devices, and adding back in the old satellite which I reconfigured as a root brought the wireless and wired speeds down.

I can’t explain it, but unfortunately, I’ll be returning the product.

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