Mandatory Two-Factor

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Good to know. I missed this answer earlier. Thanks.

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OK.

Reading about halfway through, I see I am getting the same “Someone new has logged in” emails on a daily basis. I found out that it is, indeed, me on the web portal.

Having a way to specifically stop these, or confirm, on the mailing, “don’t worry about it, it is me” would be better than NOT being able to and having the mail tell me to not worry about it (and keep sending them).

The second thing that I am worried about is sharing the cameras with my wife. Will people that you share with be able to use their OWN 2FA, or will I be called every time she wants to check on the kids/dog/car/amazon delivery?

Finally, as a side note, everything works fine (although glitchy at times) with the web portal… except for V4. The V3s work fine. Just sticking that in there.

Any clues on 1 and 2?

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Sounds like 90% of the posts on the various Wyze forums. People get pissed when Wyze has an issue. Wyze implements 2FA to be more secure. Now people are pissed at that. I’ve never seen so many people buy something they hate so much.

“Turn it off” Don’t let those be your last famous words. HOW? WHERE? WHAT ARE THE STEPS? why doesn’t Wyze tell us? Why should I hear this from another user? Why should I spend a few hours trying to figure this out? What guarantees that my settings won’t wiped out with the next
“update”? This is all a silly game.

Are you new to technology? Whether you buy it or get it for free, it’s the same for many other tech gimmicks. People complain when they are hassled and inconvenienced. See Microsoft Windows, Google search, the love-hate relationship with social media, etc. As for the so called “security” issue, this is a game of Whac-A-Mole. All attempts at beating the bad guys have been somehow subverted. See 2FA, UEIF, passkey, blockchain. Now they are introducing multi-factor authentication. OK, maybe companies should keep on trying and not give up, but it all appears to be futile and the consumer bears the brunt of this experimentation. That’s why people are pissed off.

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I’m not new to technology. I’m fact. I’m an early adopter of most be tech. What I’m not is a whiny neophyte. If you don’t like the product, get rid of it and get something else.

Seems like you are mad at the people attempting to protect you… Not the bad actors creating the issue.

It’s not Wyze, Microsoft, or Google’s fault that people exploit this stuff. Anymore than a bank having to put all the security in a building and on your account to keep from getting robbed.

Laws, fences, and security measures are made because humans can’t behave themselves.

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Amen.

Sounds like the US Government. At least we still have a choice to opt out. If I choose to opt out how does that option affect others?

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But IMHO, we shouldn’t have to do that. I’m having enough problem with Alexa as it is!

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I think the issue here would not be “why”, but to get to the "how"s that people have expressed here (like me).

I do not mind 2FA… but I have found it frustrating on shared accounts with my wife when she has to authorize me to access it when I log in and vice-versa.

Sooooo… how do we take care of this?

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If you do it by email then your wife just set up an email filter to automatically forward a copy of any authentication email to your email account. Then you both get it every time. Problem solved for your situation.

Secondly, you can use an Authenticator app. This is what my wife and I do for our shared account. I setup 2FA with the authenticator app on Google Authenticator, then I took my phone over to my wife, and told google authenticator I wanted to transfer an account code selected export accounts on mine and import accounts on hers then I had her scan the QR code. Now she had a copy of the 2FA authenticator code on her phone with Google Authenticator app too! She no longer has to ask me for a code to log in to the Wyze account. She can simply get it herself any time she needs it (which is basically never because the app just leaves her signed in anyway).

Either of those 2 options will resolve your frustration with needing your wife to authorize you every time.

I don’t use this particular authenticator, but for a while I’ve been using an authenticator feature of a security app, and this post prompted me to find out if I could copy those settings to a separate phone. It turns out that I can, so now I essentially have a duplicate token. Thanks for makin’ me do some (needed) work, @carverofchoice!

While I understand that sometimes it might be necessary to share an account with a spouse in order to achieve a certain goal (access to master-account-only features, for instance), my security-minded gut cringes at this and believes that the companies providing these services should plan better and implement real account/access/feature provisioning rather than rolling out a (much simpler) one-size-fits-all scheme. Wyze is far from the only company guilty of this narrow-minded approach, and I think it’s fair to level some constructive criticism at companies that seem unwilling to address customer needs in more flexible ways.

On the other hand, another company that routinely sells me things implemented mandatory two-factor authentication sometime over the last year or so without so much as a warning e-mail (as far as I know). It was mildly annoying to have to set that up for yet another account, but only mildly so because I was already using an authenticator. It’s a pain we all share now, to some degree. To paraphrase a line from Full Metal Jacket, “In other words, it’s a huge :poop: :sandwich: and we’re all gonna have to take a bite.”

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I haven’t had any issue connecting with tinyCam on my tablet or firetv, but I have an issue haven’t to renter my full login so much. It has happened multiple times this month and every time makes me regret using a difficult password. Ironically it hasn’t asked for my 2FA again, just the id/pw.

Password manager helps me overcome that hurdle.

+1 on using a password manager. Makes it FAR easier to get away from duplicating passwords too.

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