I’m not saying that your router sucks, I personally think that is pretty good router. I just think that it’s only a matter of a settings in the router, but then I might be wrong. I am a tinkerer and I don’t give up easily and I don’t like waisting money, so I always try to make things work for me.
There is a whole thread dedicated to Asus routers and Wyze camera compatibility, see below. Give some of those solutions a try. In any case, all the best to whatever you decide to do.
The v4 supports Wifi6 on the 2.4ghz band, where previous models do not. That has been a sticking point for some.
Asus routers are good but there are two different chipsets they use, Broadcom and Mediatek. Depending which one you have, it may be trying to force the cam to 5ghz incorrectly. My Asus uses Broadcom and does not have any issue, but I haven’t used one of the Mediatek ones. You may have to play around with disabling WPA3 or Wifi6 (AX) mode on the 2.4ghz band until there is a fix or other workaround. You can also try disabling band steering (the method it uses to force clients to 5ghz) but if you’re using the same SSID for 2.4 and 5ghz, ideally you want that enabled. In reality, most 5ghz devices are programmed to prefer 5ghz so band steering usually doesn’t do a lot, but there are some older dual band devices, mostly N ones, that will sometimes stick to 2.4.
Up to you, if you don’t want to toy with it, then a different Wyze model or different brand may be easier, but I’d avoid ones that support Wifi6 and have 2.4ghz only wifi radios in them.
That would depend on the hardware that you are using. Some systems require a single SSID (2.4ghz & 5ghz) and some can still perform Band Steering when you separate the 2.4ghz and 5ghz channels with different SSID. If you have a system of AP’s (based on hardware, can still act like a mesh system), they perform AP Steering.
IMO, if you have a lot of IoT devices, you should separate the bands. The reasoning is that one would want to connect the IoT devices to that 2.4ghz channel and isolate it to prevent any rogue device from gaining access to your network and devices connected to it.
He would only have to change the network that the 5ghz devices connect to. In the “stevena” example, I would leave “stevena” at the 2.4ghz and just make the 5ghz SSID to “stevena5”.
I would also suggest checking for any firmware updates for his network hardware that is being used.
No, they can’t. Band steering requires the same SSID.
If you have a device with both SSIDs configured, that device will have settings telling it which one to prefer, so that may have a similar effect to band steering (of course that device also has settings telling it to prefer 5ghz on the same SSID typically). Within the AP you can attempt to set up some sort of forced roaming to try and get those clients to move to the 5ghz SSID when they don’t do it themselves, but it is going to be unreliable.
Thank you @dave27 I misspoke. My brain was thinking how you can have 2 separate SSID’s on 5ghz, but of course, one of them is the same as the 2.4ghz. Thank you for the correction.
IMO, band steering is hit or miss because it all depends on the client.
Yeah, it’s a hack, I’ve seen some implementations work pretty well, others effectively lock a 2.4ghz client out of the network. Luckily things have changed over the past 10 years or so where most client drivers are pre-programmed to prefer 5ghz so band steering typically isn’t needed. I don’t use it as I have found that all my devices handle the prioritizing of 5ghz well (which wasn’t always the case).
The newer wifi standards have started implementing negotiation between client and AP for things like seamless roaming and beamforming. I don’t know that there is anything for band selection but there may be within one of the seamless roaming standards. Unfortunately until we all have Wifi 6 or 7 devices and APs that support those new standards, they don’t help.
I try to recommend this to as many people as I can. Having an isolated guest network is a good layer of protection, plus as you say you can choose which bands to expose there (most will need 2.4ghz only), whether you want separate SSIDs if you do have both bands, etc. Essentially allowing you to have separate settings for your IOT stuff and your main network.
Of course the downside is that some things will need to communicate to your main network, and with standard home routers, once you isolate the guest network, you can’t customize beyond that. Asus has released “Guest Network Pro” on some of their high end routers that begins to allow some communication, but it will still block a lot of things that rely on being in the same subnet.
All my IOTs are completely isolated, so when I view my Wyze cams on my home network it is streaming via their servers, but has not been an issue for me. I also don’t do things like screen mirroring to my TV (have a PC connected directly to the TV and wireless keyboard for that) so not a big deal for me. But for others it might be. On my regular guest network (where my work laptop sits and where I let others connect when they visit) I do have a couple holes punched through the firewall to allow printing and some other things, but for the most part keep it pretty sealed up.
When people want separate SSIDs for their bands, I usually recommend they set up one SSID for both bands, then a guest network (LAN access enabled) with two separate ones. Then they can pick which one to use for each device. Laptops and phones might want the automatic roaming ability, whereas other devices you may want to lock to one or the other. That setup gives you the flexibility to choose for each device.
Agreed! That’s mostly for the older devices still out there. My XE75’s are all set to AP mode and have the ability to “auto” band select and support beam-forming and MU-MIMO but as you said, most of the devices will negotiate and connect to the best connection by default. My Motorola Edge+ connects to 5ghz as I’m pulling up on my driveway and by the time I’m in the house, it switches by itself to the 6ghz band. Very nice when it works well like that.
Exactly how I’ve got mine setup as well. Completely isolated. All AP’s connected to my Festa FR205 with my other “mesh” system (AIRI) in AP mode on a separate vlan. Nothing fancy, but does what I need it to do. I didn’t bother wasting money on the Festa POE Switch as you can still manage the network via the cloud without it (this was their answer to Omada which you have to pay for) however, they did say “subject to change”. Kinda reminds me of Wyze and the plan to do away with the “lite” while many of us were supporters from the very beginning and were told otherwise.
Omada/TP-Link have been building the controller into many of their devices now so you don’t need a subscription unless you want easy remote/cloud management. Their lineup is pretty nice, but if I was going to go back in that direction (did a major downsizing/simplification of my network years ago as it was overkill) I’d probably have a PFSense/OpnSense router with Ubiquiti APs. But the Asus routers I’ve used combined with Merlin firmware so I can customize them almost as much as PFSense (though not quite as easy) has worked out quite well.
That is funny, becsuse I would rather through money at it (to a reasonable degree) than waste time. I’m usually very busy. And while somewhat tech savvy, not adanced at all. Thank you for your suggestion regarding checking all the info on the Asus routers/Wyze cams, Habib. I will look into it.