Beta Testing for Wyze Cam v3 RTSP Firmware Now Available!

Do not rename the file demo,bin for the V3. leave the filename demo_wcv3,bin

Certainly that is the case with every IP camera that I have ever used with Blue Iris, with the possible exception of Wyze. All of my other IP cameras are blocked to/from the internet by firewall rules, so they literally use no internet bandwidth at all.

And I have just proven that the V3 can be blocked and still function within Blue Iris, but I’m pretty sure you’d lose all access via the mobile app. And there doesn’t seem to be any way to configure the camera, other than the mobile app, so that might be a problem. And if we can’t tell the camera where to find a time server on the LAN, which is what makes it practical to block most other cameras from the internet, then at some point, the clock will be wrong, either because it drifts, or because of daylight savings time.

If Wyze answers questions at all, perhaps they will tell us how it’s supposed to act. Because as far as I can tell, the RTSP firmware is completely undocumented

Well, assuming that you can live with the V3 as a normal RTSP camera, then Blue Iris will not require any internet bandwidth at all unless you view from outside of your LAN. If you do view from outside, BI is good at managing internet bandwidth, so if you configure it right, you’ll never need more than the bandwidth required by any single camera, and even that bandwidth is configurable.

I don’t care about any of the Wyze app functionality because Blue Iris already does everything I need it to do, but lacking in embedded web server, the V3 is going be crippled - there won’t be any way to administer the camera. I could probably live without it because even the time of day can come from BI, so once it’s set up and running, I could just block it. Failing advice from Wyze, it’s not clear as to whether that would result in any long-term problems or not.

I’ve been on the fence on buying BL…I’ve been testing it and it’s ok. But mainly I’ve been using TinyCam Pro and it’s been working great… just a few bucks for the pro, but the free one is great it just doesn’t come with web server, which to be honest, it sucks lol. I don’t even use it… tried it a few times, but it’s just way slow. Another reason is besides the $60 for BL, I see you also have to pay another $9.99 for the app?
For that amount of money, it should come with the app.

I like you, not interested on the bells and whistles from Wyze as I always have a monitor viewing 24/7 my cameras and I also use Ring Pro which detects motion at 80+ fee away…super great coverage and it’s instant… as soon I get the notification from Ring, I look at my monitor for the live Wyze feed.

BI is a great product. Curious if anyone has tried iSPY (https://www.ispyconnect.com/)? I have not setup a camera with RTSP yet, but have used iSPY for amcrest camera’s I used to have. I am probably going try this on a couple of spare Camera’s I have.

I’ve tried iSpy… meh… didn’t like it. But it’s free lol

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Thanks. I used it sometime ago. was not sure if it would worked and even if it has changed.

I mean it works and does what it’s supposed to do, but it just feels cheap…but that’s just me. I’m sure others like it a lot.

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I appreciate the feedback. Blue Iris is one which I really liked, but hesitant on spending the dollars on it. :slight_smile:

Blue Iris has become pretty serious security camera software. The web server works great, as does the mobile app. You can buy the software one time, or you can buy the annual support plan, which comes with free software upgrades. 'Can’t really compare to free software, as they are not comparable.

If you don’t want to buy the native mobile app, the browser app works fine on most devices, including real computers. Personally, I bought the mobile app and I consider it to be a bargain because it works with all of the mobile devices that I own. Although I have to admit that this is my first experiment with sub-$30 cameras, so I can see where BI might seem expensive in that context. It’s certainly not expensive compared to most IP cameras, though. And having now spent some time with the V3, I have to admit that I am already finding the bugs and limitations to be irritating.

But I’ll wait to see how Wyze responds to the many concerns…there may yet be places for the V3 in my installations. We’ll see. If nothing else, it has been fun to play with. The color night vision holds up better than I expected it to.

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iSpy has the best price, but it has a pretty steep learning curve and can be complicated. I’ve been using it for a long time though and it works for me. I’m using WYZE v2, WYZE v3 and a few different models of Chinese camera’s, (SriCam, CamHi, etc). Once set up, it works great. If anyone knows how to keep spiders off the nightvison cameras outdoors, I’m all in :slight_smile: They are a pain.

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One of the most annoying things for on iSpy is the fact that I can never get rid of the stupid mic bar under each window. I deleted and it comes back later if I go into the settings… SUPER ANNOYING. Maybe there’s a way, but I haven’t been able to find it. I remember that would always bother the heck out of me.

Looks similar to what I used. I am familiar with the use and complexity. But I only scratched the surface.

Thanks for the feedback and the image. looks good

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I still have one camera that still gives me issues… from time to time, it just blacks out for a few secs, then comes back online… just the one… it has full wifi bars, but for some reason it keeps blacking out…it doesn’t disconnect, the screen just goes back. Maybe that’s one of the bugs… the other cameras are fine and steady, no issues now for hours.

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I think someone earlier mentioned forcing the camera to TCP only, not Auto or UDP for connection if you are using iSpy and were having issues with it dropping. Might be worth a shot.

Are you using audio too on the WC3 in iSpy and you are having no issues?

Im using TinyCam on TCP.

Use a camera that doesn’t require any built-in lighting. The V3 is almost there! Or the old use-the-lights-on-a-different-camera trick. Bugs used to drive me nuts before I switched to Night Color cameras. Spiders are the worst!

Maybe just RMA that one camera…or swap locations with another camera and see if it’s environmental somehow?

hehe… that camera is well past the time to RMA… I’ve been changing channels to see… so far I’ve tried 6 and fails… now is on 11… so far so good… it hasn’t glitched since it’s been on 11.

I just wanted to follow up on the internet bandwidth consumption that @macster2075 was seeing. I went ahead and did the whole long-press setup thing again, got back into setup mode and was then able to connect the mobile app to the camera again.

What I’m seeing here is very interesting - neither the app nor my phone uses any significant internet bandwidth when watching the live camera view via the app. Like bits per second, not kilobits, or kilobytes, and certainly not mega-anything. I can see some bandwidth on the access point, so there is traffic on the LAN, but it does not appear to traverse the internet. It seems to me that the mobile app is smart enough to use the local area network when it is available, which I think is pretty cool. I think I can now confirm that neither Blue Iris nor the Wyze mobile app uses any significant internet bandwidth while all are on the same LAN.

Mac, if you’re seeing more than just the smallest internet bandwidth, I feel like you have something weird with your setup. Could you be monitoring via the mobile app continuously, with your Wi-Fi turned off, such that the only path for the data is via the internet? Or could the camera somehow be connected to multiple cloud services while also connected to Blue Iris? Or something along those lines?

The camera is still chatting away with multiple cloud servers, so some will find that to be unacceptable, but I don’t think it’s a problem in terms of bandwidth consumption. And now that I have the Wyze mobile app working again, it seems pretty clear that it would be fine to block the camera’s IP address, if one just isn’t willing to put up with unauthorized/unwanted internet connections. Because there are very few configuration options available anyway. Just turn off the status light, kill the on-screen displays, and let Blue Iris do the rest. I might leave it un-blocked just for the convenience of being able to turn the status LED off and on, but you know, once a camera is up and running, i never look at the status lights anyway.