Impossible to say with just a screen shot like that, but first suspect would be that it is too far from your wifi router or has interference in that area.
This might be this person’s problem. But you too could be approaching the same problem as your home. Think about checking out how to see if you are getting close to your limit too.
One of the things we WiFi users over look is “the device limit” on our routers. For many years, the count, the actual number of WiFi connections at the same time connected to our router was not a big deal. And we added more. And slowly we reached the point that our router would not allow a connection. It was still there, and if you tried to use it, or restarted it, it would sometimes come back on line. But then drop off again later. So…
Google your router. Look for something like “Device Limit” Its the number of devices, i.e. phones, TVs, tablet, smart home, cameras, doorbells, smart bulbs, you have added and connected on your network.
Count everything. Anything you connected. If you think you found it, I bet you missed some. Down load the app called Fing. Run it a couple of times. It looks at your network and shows you what’s connected. Its free.
Does the number on your network, exceed what your router limit is? No? Good. Yes? About time to look at a router replacement. Make sure the one you get has a higher count limit.
It was worth checking. Keep an eye on this in the future. There’s no message to that will tell us when we exceed that count.
That’s a lot less of a problem now than it used to be (and in the past it was often just an approximation, not a forced hard limit). In my case I’m nowhere near the 1024 approximated limit my gear supports.
If OP was hitting that limit you’d typically expect it to impact more than just one cam and be somewhat random in nature. But without more info, impossible to say, just an educated guess at this point.
Is it still recording events? That’s what mine is doing, but can’t see live feed, says offline
I have to ask on this one, the only time I’ve ever seen that high of a number in relation to routers is with quad amplitude modulation, But I’ve never seen a connection limit of that magnitude unless you have like 9 individual nodes on a mesh network. I must know more LOL I may have to upgrade!
The U7 APs from Ubiquiti are theoretically capable of 1024 each, obviously depending on client type, beacon (basic) rate, how many on each band, etc. But of course actually attempting to do that would likely slow everything to a crawl. They rate them “200+” and “300+” depending which model you get (the extra 100 being from 6ghz band probably) to give a more reasonable and usable limit.
I was tempted to get an E7 which is rated “1000+” by them but it was way overkill and expensive for my needs, two U7s made more sense, and probably didn’t even need the 2nd one. The E7 supposedly has a really good antenna array and better radios with much better coverage (which is what interested me, not the higher client count) but for the price you can get like 4 U7 Lites. They also have one designed for stadium environments (E7 Audience) that is rated 1500+.
Given the 1024 theoretical and the 200+ marketing for the U7 Lites I’m using I was just tossing an estimate of 512 on each. I don’t think I’ve ever exceeded 20 so no stadium APs needed anytime soon.
QAM is more to do with speed than number of clients, and has been in use for a long time, going back to at least N, I can’t recall if A/B/G used it. They’re up to 4096QAM on Wifi 7 now, continuing to squeeze more speed out of the same bandwidth, but reducing range and increasing retransmissions……
For those wanting to venture into the Ubiquiti arena, the Cloud Gateway Ultra with U7 lite package that Microcenter has for $180 is a great value. I’m also using one of their Flex Mini switches just so everything can be managed from the same spot, and the switches are dirt cheap if you don’t want POE (my APs use their $8 injectors).
If you have the latest app version, try bringing your camera closer to the router (or router closer to the camera) as a test, quick way to narrow down if that’s the issue.
well played sir, that is info most arent aware of. And that’s what got me, I know we’re dealing with density issues these days with a number of devices in a single residence and such but man that’s almost an office building. I may have to play around and do some research just so I some breathing room. I kind of joke with all my neighbors and everybody when they asked me about congestion or at least that was the big topic last summer, and when I asked them how many devices they were all running the top I saw was I think 15 devices in the entire home. I’m the only person in my house and I have over 80.obviously being a maven, My circumstances are just a wee bit different as I am an uber nerd,
but still
thank you so much for the info!!!
Moving the router (or solving the same problem with a node in a mesh system) is why many of us moved to a mesh configuration.
Each iteration of 802.11 has improved coexistence of networks and devices (making them be aware of each other and share better) and added to how many devices can be usable on an AP at a time (by reducing the size of each time slot and increasing the speed that the slots rotate) but at some point you just run into limitations of physics. A lot of the problem is to really take advantage of the improvements, all devices in range have to support the newer standards and at least with 2.4ghz, there are still devices being released that are based on N/Wifi 4, so that’s a long way away.
I don’t see any solution to the 2.4ghz problem on the horizon anytime soon, at least without a brand new chunk of spectrum being allocated, and then obviously again only new devices with that support will be able to make use of it.
Mesh systems obviously have their purpose, in some cases they’re needed, in others I just see where some Best Buy employee convinced someone to buy a mesh system for their small 1 bedroom house, and they end up with more problems and performance issues than they had before.
That’s the main drawback I’ve seen with Ubiquiti, they’ve moved to 2x2 on 2.4ghz, with lower gain antennas and lower power output. For the places they’re typically used, 2.4ghz isn’t really a priority so I understand it. But typically liking to have just one AP in my house (to eliminate roaming glitches) it does make it more difficult to have coverage outside with just a single AP.
We’re long overdue for seamless roaming to be properly implemented (there are two standards and many devices don’t properly support either one). Once that happens, a lot of the challenges of mesh systems go away.
That’s something that I always overlook is a time slotting, I think that has made a significant improvement.
I mean bandwidth as a whole has made vast improvements. I had to talk to the technology department for my full-time job recently because I was having connection issues with our VPN which is I will say robust being a government thing, and he said well have you tried your LAN? I said yes I’m running cat 8 direct to my router doing this this and this and give him all the details and he said yeah this must be on our end
there’s so many little details. I must say it is refreshing to talk to someone who knows what appears to be vastly more than I do! I’m a self-professed nerd but man you know what you’re talking about. I can’t lie I will be following you for future references and I hope you help out around here more because you definitely know what you’re talking about. You’re the type of person that the team I belong to keeps an eye on just because you give a lot of good information and it is very very helpful! Thank you again for the information I didn’t have and information I need to look up. I didn’t realize how behind the times I was
Appreciate the kind words, but caveat that the bulk of my expertise lies in wired communications along with routing and switching, as that’s been the majority of my profession for a few decades. But I was heavily involved in it in the a/b days of the late 90s and early 2000s with my first company’s initial rollout, and have tried to keep up with it since. Actually even prior to that, I was the first person in college to have a 802.11b Wifi AP and card (Intel did this early adopter program and I may have fibbed a bit on the application to get it relatively cheap). Had it long before the school even did. Greatest thing about that was the range was amazing due to no competition, even if it capped out around 5 or 6 megabits. I could be in class 2 brick buildings away from my dorm using it. Then at my first job I could take whatever Cisco wifi gear I wanted home for “testing”. Have always found RF and other types of wireless communications fascinating. My former company, we piloted freespace optics which used a laser to communicate over about a 1 mile distance at around 155 megabits (OC3 speed). Man those sucked to get aligned (had basically a rifle scope mounted to the side and even then, that just got you in the ballpark), but it was really cool to see it actually work. In college we built a similar setup out of a cheap laser pointer that could stream music across the room to a receiver. That was just plain pulse code modulation, 1s and 0s, but the fact that a $5 pointer could turn on and off that quickly was still mind blowing, it just looked like steady light but it put out CD quality sound on the other end.
Wifi and all the associated protocols and technology that go with it is a field all of its own, I try to maintain enough working knowledge to be able to tweak my own stuff and friends/family/neighbors. In the case of neighbors, giving them a free optimization in exchange for turning off 40mhz channels on 2.4.
But in reality it goes far deeper than I have time or desire to get into.
I will say of all the home based routers I’ve dealt with, the Asus have always really impressed me. Before going back to Ubiquiti, I ran one of their AC68 routers for years and it covered all 3 floors of my house and plenty outside as well. Mounting it to the ceiling on the 3rd floor certainly helped, but considering I have aluminum siding and aluminum vapor barrier, it was very impressive. Being able to run 3rd party firmware and customize it pretty heavily was a nice benefit too. I had this crazy Ruckus AP at one point with like 28 antennas and very complex beamforming and it honestly didn’t do any better range wise. It did help give multiple devices more bandwidth when they were at different positions relative to the AP though.
Have always liked the Ubiquiti stuff, even if it wasn’t as high powered and long range, which they do for a reason as those higher power levels mean worse signal strength. My first UB setup was an indoor dual band N AP and two outdoor 2.4ghz N APs. Now 2 indoor dual band at opposite ends of the house covers what I need it to, except inside the concrete garage where I have an old run of CAT5e for the laptop out there (googling torque specs when working on the cars is priceless). Most of my devices I can force to stick to one AP or another as they don’t move around, and my laptop roams pretty well, though I do have it on medium “aggressiveness” so it will generally stick to one or the other. My phone does pretty well with it too, rarely even a small blip in a teams call when I walk around the house or go outside, and I do have that one set to aggressive so it leaves 5ghz quickly if it walk outside.
Of course the science/physics side of me is not a fan of being blasted with all this RF, especially the ultra high frequency mmWave stuff. Luckily none of those in my area yet, and hopefully not for a long time, But still, none of it is good for you. Though I’m guessing the pack a day of smokes and the radon in the basement of my 100 year old house will combine to do me in long before the RF does.
Probably the two biggest things with wifi (and any multiplexed communications) that are mind blowing are how far they’ve been able to push the precision of Time Division Multiplexing and QAM/encoding. Original QAM was either 2 or 4 bits per time interval instead of 1, now it is up to 4k and higher and the time intervals are much shorter. The precision of the timers is unbelievable. Fiber internet also relies heavily on ultra precise TDM to be able to run up to 16 or 32 uploaders using the same wavelength of light and spacing them just right.
I do get a little depressed when I see the (formerly) millions of dollars worth of gear from work sitting in the corner that could push hundreds of gigs of bandwidth at ultra low latency. But that stuff only gets powered on when I need to test stuff in my lab. The noise, heat, and energy draw is insane. I’ve settled for a somewhat happy medium with Ubiquiti. For those that want a bit more control and ability to tinker, PFSense/OpnSense are great options too, but I want stability and ease of use these days. I do miss my rack of servers and enterprise network gear from when electricity (and static IPs and business class internet) wasn’t so expensive.
/tangent.
Dang it, got me beat again, back in university I thought having wimax was excellent! Being able to have wifi for miles even in some spots in the forest made for the best studying I have ever done! It even got the attention of the president and we got a visit.
This was non even on fancy tech, just thinkpads lol. As glorious as they were. That’s when I found out limewire was bad ![]()
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