This response isn’t directed at or to you specifically, my friend, since I recognize you understand this already, but for the benefit of the community in general.
I will add 2 small clarifications for some people who may misunderstand…
- Many people have asked not to be forced to have cloud events (there has even been a wishlist for this, and people throughout the years making posts saying they did not want cloud events, but still wanted notifications), so many of the people switching to text and thumbnail only won’t be “losing out” on anything as they are finally getting what they have been asking for, without losing notification access.
- Although the change will happen for anyone who doesn’t opt-in by Feb 15th, ANYONE will continue to be allowed to add Cam Plus Lite even after that time:
So in that sense, I would suggest that nobody misses out on anything. Anyone who suddenly switches right to thumbnails and text notifications will still be linked directly to the event on the SD card (so no big deal since they still get notifications and still get linked to the event), AND if they later decide they have changed their mind and now want cloud events and person detection, they are able to do this at any time. Nobody will lose out on anything. Everything will be available to everyone whenever they wish it, even for free…so there really is no risk or missing out. There is no “too late” and anyone who doesn’t get the memo or wants to do it after February will still be allowed to do so…they won’t actually lose out.
I respect everyone’s opinions and feelings, even those who disagree or are upset. I am simply saying that from my personal perspective I find this change to fairly reasonable. Wyze found lots of people never use their cloud events at all, and some people actively want to get rid of it and couldn’t. All of that unnecessary cost was pointlessly costing Wyze money that they could instead reinvest elsewhere. I think it was a brilliant move for Wyze to find a way to reallocate those costs and resources in a way where everyone can get what they want. Those who don’t want their videos stored on a connected server somewhere, now get what they want. All that wasted cloud storage and bandwidth is now saved and with that savings Wyze gives Person Detection to everyone (which costs in cloud processing expenses…but has been offset by all those who no longer use the cloud space and others who decide to donate money). Further, Wyze doesn’t lock anyone into a deadline or a chosen rate. We can add it at any time and we can change our payments based on whatever we feel like at any time, even free, never locked in. If Wyze makes MORE money or this is successful then they can potentially expand and offer more features too (my hopes, not Wyze’s promises). I personally see no downside. and they upheld all their promises of free cloud.
I talked to a friend with Wyze who told me they are going to decide what to pay based solely on how much they decide to use person detection. Their personal decision is that the base rate is “free cloud” and if they decide they like person detection, then they will pay a little bit extra for that extra feature if they decide to use it. They feel no guilt at staying free for cloud. A family member who makes over 6 figures told me he’s going to pay a little bit anyway, not because he feels guilty but because he can afford to and it will make it possible to help cover costs for others to have person detection for free.
Nobody needs to feel “guilty” for whatever they pick. Seriously. I think Wyze’s reallocation of unused cloud events to cover the extra cost of person detection is a great way to be able to offer more functionality to customers. Allowing people to be able to pay what they feel it is worth IF THEY WANT TO, is a reasonable business option. I’d honestly rather have them do that than seek more investor funding for more growth. Whoever came up with the idea to reallocate the wasted cloud expenses to offer people more functionality was genius, IMO, and they did so through finally also giving people an option to switch to local storage only without losing notifications, but still be linked right to where those events started on the SD card. I personally see no downside and nobody losing out at all with this change and anyone can change their mind at any time.
Even if someone ever wants out of Wyze completely, they have awesome resell values. I just looked on ebay for what USED Wyze cams actually sold for recently, and they were still selling for most of their original retail cost:
- V2’s: $25.99, $28.40, $24, $29.98, $30.41, $21.24
- V3’s: $69.44 (for 2), $33.33, $32.88
- WCO’s: $53.99, $29.95,
- Pan: $44.90, $67 (for 2), $30.90, $29.99
So even the people who really want out have a great option too because Wyze devices hold their value pretty well with a pretty high demand even for previously owned and used devices on auction sites…so even the people who want to switch companies aren’t really “losing out” on anything either as it appears pretty easy to recoup the costs selling to someone who is satisfied.
Again, I totally respect different opinions and feelings, and from everything I’ve looked at with this change, I personally feel like Wyze did a great job at making sure everyone can get what they want out of it, and they upheld their earlier promises to see if the name your price model was sustainable and then possibly expand it to everyone else, and they fulfilled this promise by reallocating wasted cloud storage people didn’t even wany/use while offering people a way to finally be local storage only while still getting notifications. I give props on that because I previously criticized them for limiting Legacy person detection to only people who activated pre-11/2019 when they first made that change and now I am man enough to say I was wrong and I give Wyze props for following through on their promise and offering it as an option to everyone like so many of us told them they should do.
I will keep a secondary account without person detection or cloud events so I can see what happens after the change and see how everything works without cloud events.