Yeah, don’t toggle off all notifications for the whole camera, just the check mark under “Motion” notifications. Leave the notifications on for the rest of the AI detections you want Then you can switch it back to smart detections only and it will only notify you for smart detections and the events tab will only save AI events too (you have it cluttered with motion events for that camera).
I know it’s a dumb bug in their system. It should just do all of that automatically when you click on the smart detection option, but since it doesn’t and I know how to fix the bug, I try to help people know how to do it themselves.
I don’t have an option to turn off just Motion notifications. But then today the camera tagged an event as a vehicle but there was no vehicle in their recording, it was just tree limbs moving and the Sun shining through them. Don’t get how it could tag it as a vehicle.
Now another one of my V3 cameras, which is set to only record Smart Detection Events, just recorded motion and tagged it as Motion. If it can’t tag it as an event I have set (Person, Pet and Vehicle), then it’s not supposed to record anything.
Sadly, that can’t be fixed unless all the camera’s use a PIR sensor, which they don’t. And if you set them to record only smart detections then you miss a lot of things because they’re supposed to record only what you pick under that setting.
I have a pan V3 that’s set up for smart detection events. It just had a "Motion detected’ event 3 hours ago. It’s very rare though and I expect more if it’s really set to detect motion; there are swaying tree branches in its field of view. I consider it a Wyze glitch.
Now today a third V3 camera recorded a tree waving in the wind and tagging it as motion, when it was also set to only record Smart Detections for Person, Pet and Vehicle.
@Resist I don’t think this will be “fixed” because I don’t think it is broken or working incorrectly, other people here have asked for clarification, but I think they’re confused because you’re confused.
KEY POINT: Recording motion of all types is how pixel-detection (non-PIR/radar) cameras work. They detect pixel changes (aka motion/trees moving). Upon motion detection, Cam Plus cameras upload a quick recording to Wyze cloud where it is analyzed according to your plan and you get a notification or not depending on the content of the video & your settings.
I think @carverofchoice was on the right track in their initial post:
Essentially, you’re going to get Motion recordings from certain Wyze cams saved in your Cam Plus history. It’s how it works.
If you don’t want to see these Motion recordings, you can filter by Person in the Event view.
That’s not how it’s supposed to work. Cam Plus/Ultimate is supposed to allow one to filter what gets recorded to the cloud. If I don’t want motion recording from my cameras to the cloud, I pay the subscription fee. If that can’t be done, why should I waste my money?
Actually, this was working, and only recently has this problem surfaced.
I wonder if I didn’t notice the change, or if it has always been this way. I’ve been running a house full of V3 cams w/subs for years and have always had “Motion” videos in events if I go to view all events w/o the Person filter.
As you can see in the app, if you disable All Motion or Motion events, you lose Smart Detections.
As far as I know V3 cams don’t have edge AI or any offline processing beyond the very limited “detection zone”, if you want to call that offline processing. If you don’t want “Motion” recordings in the cloud, you need 100% “Pro” devices that have offline/Edge AI type features, and then you must go through some complicated steps to still avoid the Motion recordings, because cloud processing is what you’re paying for and is much better at weeding out notifications than on-cam hardware (which again, isn’t even on the V3s being discussed)
There’s a simple solution if you’re just interested in reviewing People events:
For example, I have a camera facing a door on a busy street. If I left Vehicle notifications on, I’d get alerts all day long. Even with Vehicle detection and alerts off, I get recordings regularly from V3 cams tagged “Vehicle” that I can only see if I unfilter the timeline view. Is this the “problem”, but for tree branches?
The situation is much less annoying with the newer Wyze cams (V3 Pro, OG, V4, etc.) due to the improved interface for navigating events. I doubt there will be changes for the older cameras and the way their video processing and storage is handled.
“Motion” recording is a super set, “Smart Detection Events” is a subset, and if you have that checked, it’s supposed to filter the “Motion” set per your “Custom Recording”. It’s the latter that’s supposed to get recorded with your Cam Plus/Ultimate cloud.
What has changed is the UI; Wyze has been rolling out changes and you may be getting confused because “Person” used to be off screen and is now prominent and easy to tap/unselect. Perhaps that gave you the impression that Motion events just started happening.
I was also confused about all the Motion events when I subscribed to Cam Plus on my V3 (non-Pro) many years ago. If you don’t want to get “Motion” alerts, you must do custom triggers using “Person Detected” on the camera hardware. Only “Pro” models support this, and you won’t have a great experience… especially just to avoid uploads.
How would Wyze ever be able to get a video report that the detection was wrong if it did not save Motion events?
I have a camera looking at moving shrub branches right now. It’s not recording them, because I have it set up to record only smart events (pets, persons). Once in maybe 2 weeks, I get “motion events”. If I use your interpretation, I should get hundreds of “motion” recording by this time. It’s not happening.
I’ve had Cam Plus/Ultimate for 2 years now.
Correction - I checked the dates, I actually have Cam Plus for 4 years now.
It’s not recording them because the tagged motion you’re seeing doesn’t meet the threshold to trigger a need to upload the video for analysis to see if it is a Pet or Person.
The confusion you and the original poster seem to share is the idea that Wyze deletes uploaded videos that it does not detect your selected Smart Event/Detection tags. If Wyze deleted 100% of videos that did not get tagged as one of your selected events, you’d never get to see the video where it missed the mailman and tagged that as Motion (you then get to go in, share the video, and Wyze improves).
Motion events will exist for non-Pro cameras with any detection turned on and Cam Plus recording of any event or smart detection type.
The air moves and creates winds in various patterns; as the sun shines through those moving branches different patterns emerge that the camera sometimes uploads as a possible detection. Then, the cloud says, nope, that’s just tree branches moving weird and making the shape of a face in the shadow…
Then you can switch it back to smart detections only and it will only notify you for smart detections and the events tab will only save AI events too (you have it cluttered with motion events for that camera).