Siren sounds upon rule selection

Sorry, finally getting back to this. Looks right except you need to remove “turn on notifications”. The action either enables notifications for the device, or disables notification for the device. It it not a “send a notification” action.

If you want to use the “turn on notifications” action, youll need to use a SCHEDULED rule that runs at a start and then the opposite action runes at the end time with the action of “turn on notifications” used in the rule.

No worries! I figured you were sick to death of me :slight_smile:. Just when I think I’ve got it… I’ve managed to get the cameras set up at my friends and trying to help with their rule setup. Judging by Johneeee8 I’m not the only one struggling and frustrated with these rules. It just shouldn’t be this hard. I’m trying to wrap my head around how each thing I want my camera to do needs multiple rules. I think of “turn on notifications” as “my wyze camera will start to send me notifications IF there is MOTION detected on my patio”. For the “bedtime” rule I have above, am I not basically doing the same thing as setting a scheduled rule as you suggest above. I’m thinking my rule above has a schedule included in it.

IF the patio detects motion
THEN the siren will turn on; the spotlight will turn on for 5 minutes; notifications will turn on (be sent to me)
WHEN 11:30PM - 8:30AM; Sunday - Saturday

Isn’t this a “SCHEDULED” rule as you suggest above???

Now just to squared away in my head. My cameras at home are soooo much easier. My intention when we leave AZ is to Enable my AWAY rule and enable notifications for all my devices so maybe this will be a moot point when we are gone. But we’ll be coming back and I want to understand why I’m setting up my rules the way I am. Stuff like this just drives me crazy. When helping my friends I want to be able to speak to why I’m telling them to do something.

I’m sorry to be such a pain in the A*&. This would be so much easier if I could actually speak with someone but I gather from what I’ve read that the Wyze personnel are not of much help so I’m so appreciative of all the time you have spent helping me with this!!!

Nada! never!

Notifications are a function of the camera, and you don’t need to involve rules to just get notifications. You need rules to control WHEN you get notifications though, and to do that you need a scheduled rule to set the block of time that you want notifications to be enabled. If you want notifications 24/7, then you just need to enable notifications in the camera settings and leave it. You would want notifications already enabled at this point to be ready for when motion is detected. If you enable notifications when motion is detected, then there is a great chance that you wont receive a notification for this detected instance of motion, but the notifications would be enabled for the next time motion is detected.

Say there is an instance of evil and someone does jump the wall and is detected. Your rule would do this as is:

1st time motion was detected: turn on siren, turn on spot for 5 minutes, enable device notifications (but chances are no notification of this would be sent)
2st time motion was detected: turn on siren, turn on spot for 5 minutes, enable device notifications (you WOULD for sure get a notification for this because notifications were enabled at the first detection of motion when the DEVICE TRIGGER of detect motion fired) (the enable notifications action would actually do nothing this time because the notifications were already enabled a the first motion)


No, this is a “DEVICE TRIGGER” rule that works on a schedule. Device trigger rules do nothing until a trigger, in your case “IF the patio detects motion”, then it fires the actions only during the scheduled times in the rule.

A “SCHEDUED” rule, fires its actions only at the times listed in the rule. It fires the action at the start time, then if the action has an opposite or inverse action, the opposite will fire at the end time.

notifications will turn on (be sent to me)

the action “turn on notifications”, is like enabling notifications, but it is not “send a notification” (there is no action of send a notification).

I personally use “turn on notifications” in a rule that looks like this:

Device Trigger rule: If “garage contact sensor” is open for more than 5 minutes, then action “turn on notifications” with no time schedule

The above is used for when I see something shiny and forget to close my garage door, then after being it open for five minutes enable notifications. I dont care to get notifications otherwise when i am coming and going, only want them if the garage is left open to be notified of the actions that take place when its open. I then have a manual shortcut rule to “turn off notifications”, or i go into the device settings and toggle off notifications.

Thank you for the clarification! You have been VERY clear as to what I need to do. So now I need to wrap my head around it and that’s a slower process as you can see.

That being said I’ll have to look at it after Iowa Women’s Basketball beats LSU for the NCAA Championship :slight_smile: !!! GO HAWKS!!!

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Glad to help! any further questions don’t be afraid to send them at us! :slight_smile:

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Was hoping not to bother you again but I have a quick question. I’m really confused now. We have guests at the moment, and I knew that they would go and sit outside in the morning, so I set the enable/disable toggle to disabled on my Wyze patio camera (Bedtime rule) yet when my company went out onto the patio at 7:30 this morning it triggered my alarm and the light. I got a text message from Noonlight as well as a call that someone was on my patio. If I had the rule DISABLED why did everything go off? Now I’m really confused. I think perhaps I need to call Wyze and see if someone (hopefully there is someone) there understands the system. I just don’t get it. I’m not typically this inept at figuring things out but this one has me really confused and thinking maybe the Wyze camera might not have been the way to go.

The noon light professional monitoring is separate than your rules and you would need to disable the monitoring side if things as well. Disabling the rule would stop the siren and the light from turning on but unless you change the mode on your monitoring tab then your alarm system is still active, which is why noon light gave you a jingle.

I realized that after I sent this to you… duh… I’m embarrassed :flushed:

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It’s not a problem. Atleast the new rules and monitoring passed the dry run! :slight_smile:

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Your not dumb or confused! It’s the system of rules,notifications,actions,schedules and the definitions of what they are and what they all should do! If it was so easy and straightforward there would be a instruction manual but nobody at wyze can figure it out either. So you buy the product and your an idiot because you can’t figure out how to make it work

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Who or what is noon light?

Wyze needs to publish a (very complicated) rule, action, notification, detection, enable, disable, events, sync sheet that looks simple.

Maybe NASA can figure it out!

The professional monitoring company used by Wyze for Cam Protect and the Home Monitoring System.

Thank you

Me again… Do you know if I simply select “ARM” on my patio camera (I have the security plan) will the alarm and spotlight automatically go off if, say, someone was to try and break in? Or do I need to have the rules set up as well? I’m guessing I need rules set up as well but wanted to check and see if it’s as simple as “arming” and “disarming” to get the desired actions or if it is a 2-step process.
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So who in their right mind creates a rule to set off there alarm? So you can set off the alarm without checking the camera first? The rules are not even logical. If there is motion detected turn on the ability to send notifications, how does this make sense?

What does “Turn on the siren” mean? Does that mean physically turn on the alarm or enable the alarm so it will go off if motion is detected. If you “Turn on motion detection”, what does it do set off the alarm or send a notification or nothing at all because you didn’t “Turn on the siren”? There is no option to send a notification its only “Turn on notification” so in that case an if condition doesn’t make sense.

This is just lazy development, I can tell that just from the fact the UI uses checkboxs for mutually exclusive options like Turn siren on and Turn siren off. Industry standard is to use radio buttons.

That activates the audible siren at the camera.

The “Turn on motion detection” action enables that setting so the camera will start detecting motion once that action fires. That action in itself will not send a notification or sound an alarm. This action works good with scheduled rules where maybe you’d want to enable motion detection at a certain time of night when everyone’s gone to bed.

Agreed. This is another one that’s good for a scheduled rule where at a certain time you would want that action to fire.

If you planned it out, you could not need to use both at once because if your not detecting motion, you won’t have any events to trigger notifications so also have the turn on notifications with the turn in motion detection is redundant. You won’t need either if you use “turn on” or turn off camera action.

Turn on siren is something you have to manually do. There is no way for the siren to sound automatically from a detection or rule. Sorry.

I agree - it’s a worthless, confusing, convoluted bunch of crap - you can only set off the siren manually by going to the app and pushing a button. Just a fun little feature - nothing more

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