Sharing Wyze video with Law Enforcement

This is not a political statement, and not intended to start a debate. It is a suggestion for a safer community. Many cities in the US have a program where citizens can register their outside facing cameras, and if there is a crime or event that maybe was captured on your Wzye, they will ask for video.

To be clear – The police cannot access your live video stream. It only enables investigators to know a camera is present at your location and easily ask you for video evidence should an incident occur. The information you share is only accessible to the Police Department. You can say no.

I have seen numerous examples of this video sharing solve crimes, protect children and make policing more effective at no cost to the community.

It takes 5 minutes to register your camera(s).

Search the web for “voluntary residential camera registry police” or a similar phrase and your community links should show up

Thank you…and keep sharing the bears in the hot tub videos!!!

The Police have a Camera Share Program here but they want to know more than if you just have cameras. Their registration form has to many personal question and they want more information than I am willing share. If I recorded something that would help them I would just call them, except if it involved my Raccoon Gang.

I like the idea of these much better than the flock network. The owner generally maintains more control.

To clarify, this is not always entirely true. They can technically bypass asking your permission for anything by sending a subpoena to the camera company listed on the registry. Then they can view the live stream, download more videos than you would’ve shared with them, etc all without having to inform you at all that they even accessed anything. This is a big reason why the registries generally ask for a lot more information than just your contact email and the address where you have cameras. Most of them ask questions needed to bypass you entirely if necessary: name, brand of camera, and other info to help them know what company to subpoena instead of asking you at all, or n case you “say no”.

But, I agree that it is better than the flock network. At least this method requires them to make it official and less convenient every time which reduces abuse opportunity.

I’m like @Antonius though. I have also shared video with law enforcement and others when relevant, but I just do so on my own terms voluntarily. I’m not opposed to that. I do prefer to be the one deciding though. So I agree with idea if the registry in theory. But I think it should be limited to contract info (email or phone number, and I would give them one that isn’t tied to my main camera account for easy bypassing me) and address or rough location. They shouldn’t require info that let’s them bypass me entirely (such as what brand of camera, or other things). The registry could request more info, but shouldn’t require more info than basic contact and rough location.

(IMO)

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When Ring came up with that “shared” idea years ago, it raised a lot of red flags for me. It was the main reason I dumped my ring floodlight camera. That and the ever increasing subscription costs. When Wyze introduced their floodlight, I jumped on it. I already had a number of Wyze cameras,

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One of my best friends is a local police chief, and I have actually spoken to the police chief of the city I live in as well about this type of program that owners can voluntarily step into, more or less a notification system that should something happen in your area they can look at the list and say hey who might have videos. I’m an oddball because I already have connections to that community, so the last time something happened in my community which was a felonious assault with a hammer, dispatch called me directly because they are friends and I was able to get them video of the gentleman and what he was wearing and which way he was headed. He was picked up shortly thereafter. But if you don’t have any type of program like that I would highly recommend going to your City Council if not the local Police Department and speaking to those in charge and seeing about starting something where people could opt in. But I would be very careful on the articulation as it’s something that they should request from you directly as once they know you have cameras, A search warrant goes a long long way and it would bypass you effectively. Just something to be aware of.

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Honestly, this kind of thing might not exist soon anyway. Lots of cities have started installing their own cameras everywhere. Several argue that the park strip (The small sliver of land between your sidewalk and the road) Is technically city property, so they can put up their own cameras along there anywhere they want. Many have also started mounting them to signs (stop signs, yield signs, street signs that are at every intersection, etc) and telephone or power poles. There have been communities complaining about this recently, and cities and police departments arguing that it is totally legal. Some of them are using the cameras To automatically capture license plates and run then for every single vehicle that drives down the road so they can continually be notified if there is a stolen vehicle, or Amber alert vehicle, or APB, or high-speed Chase or whatever else going on, get an automatic update and tracking for these kinds of situations. Additionally, they can access the footage whenever there is any kind of police report that happens, they can pull up the cameras they installed near that area and see if they have any supporting video of the incident.

Add to that current intent of some places to start having some AI governed drones monitoring certain locations from high up.

Plus all the autonomous “robots” that are pending launch soon which will all have cameras…I guarantee there will be a number of these walking around neighborhoods in place of the traditional “beat cop” that used to walk neighborhoods (in addition to the drones).

I think voluntary submissions for outdoor recordings are something they won’t even care about soon since many cities will likely have their own equipment (cameras or drones, etc). I know that sounds big brother-esque, but I think you’ll be surprised what people get used to accepting as normal.

A couple of decades ago it would’ve been unthinkable to tell people that soon most people would be totally okay with someone like Alexa or Google home speakers listening to and recording every sound and have everything said monitored and reviewed by a foreign quality assurance human. People used to joke about such things with the utmost horror and aversion. Now everyone does it and it’s not abnormal and rarely seen as repulsive. This kind of thing will steadily increase as we are currently seeing with data brokers and AI.

But for now, the voluntary camera registries can be useful.

I’m not necessarily opposed to nearly everything being recorded everywhere. After all, I have over 60 cameras. There was even a period of several years (haven’t done this for many years now) where I carried around a voice recorder that automatically recorded every single sound 24/7 (The battery would last for a month, and be able to record a couple months worth of recordings at a time). I encrypted such backups and rarely to never reviewed anything, but it was there just in case I needed to prove something later (I had some severe PTSD trauma from a horrible liar I was protecting myself against for a while).
However, it was nice to know that only I had access to such things. I didn’t mind everything being recorded or that there be potential accountability for everything, but at the same time I believe in The importance of privacy too. Yes, it would be great if everything was recorded everywhere and people couldn’t get away with crimes, and people could no longer lie. But at the same time, this can have other unexpected negative consequences as well, including potentially somebody weaponizing it unfairly or dishonestly.

IDK, I have mixed feelings is all. For now, I try to keep my stuff local as much as possible, and be a good neighbor and citizen and share things that are really important. That’s been working out pretty well so far.

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Someone shared their WYZE Cam video: :grin: