I’m not registering anything.
I would not register my cameras either. In the 2 years I have been using Wyze cameras no reportable crimes have been captured and I check Event videos regularly.
If my Wyze cameras do capture a crime, I am happy to do the leg work grabbing the footage and pass it along to law enforcement.
BTW, here is good news on Ring.
If I had a recording of a crime I would let them know unless it was the gang.
I was all gung-ho to register my outdoor cameras until I found out in most municipalities the owner of the camera has to testify in court if the footage is admitted as evidence, with no compensation. Also, now your name and address are on record, which makes retaliation easy.
That’s a big NOPE for me
The entire article states they want to map where all the camera are so they don’t have to drive around and ask. Since they only drive down to my end of the street maybe once a year they can make an extra trip. I have never had a good interaction with the Concord Police even though I am the one who called them a few time . They get 59% of the city budget but act like you are disturbing them if you ask them to come by and talk about any issues. I generally like the police just not group.
I pulled up their registry to look over what info they are asking for. I was curious if they were going to ask what camera company your cameras go through (so they can just subpoena or issue a warrant to the company directly and not even tell you about it). They’re asking for:
Personally, I think the registry should go the other way around…Instead of having citizens sign up to give the police information, the police should have a registry of people they can give information to and request them to provide anything they can find that might help. For example, maybe I give them my email address and location and nothing else and if there is a burglary in the area around a certain time, they can send a mass email to anyone in the neighborhood letting us know X happened and ask for any video evidence matching a description of a person/vehicle between certain times. I’d consider doing that.
I would not sign up telling them I have indoor cameras with X company that they can subpoena for up to X weeks and not tell me about it. I want to be the gatekeeper of my information/data. If my neighbor got burgled, I would probably help give selective video from selective time periods to help out, but I want to choose to do it, and I want to know about it, and I want to make sure my family members aren’t in the video feeds or talking on the video feeds I share, etc because I can’t control if the cops or someone else shares them with the news, etc. later (or if they get GRAMA/FOIA’d later).
If I did the registry, I would only want to give them my location and email address and say Yes I have cameras you can ask me about. No I will not tell you if I have some in my house or not. No I will not tell you which company my cameras are through. No, I will not tell you how long there are cloud videos for you to subpoena. Basically, I will only tell you "Yes I have cameras, and yes you may ask me to look for something specific that may help you in an investigation. If I can be the gatekeeper of my videos, I will probably help you. If you’re going to be too nosey and potentially bypass me and usually go straight to the company and not even communicate with me about it, then it’s a hard pass from me. I will probably help out, but it has to be on my terms.
When a neighbor’s house got vandalized, he himself approached me to ask for security camera footage. I’m pretty sure homeowners themselves would be very motivated to help out in this “extremely labor-intensive process”.
Agreed.
I’m totally willing to help out my neighbors with this stuff if they give me estimated times, etc. At my last house, my wife saw on facebook that a neighbor across the street said they were burgled and I proactively spent a few hours looking for stuff for them. Others not on camera said they were burgled and I would look for cars matching the description they listed to see if they passed by while escaping, etc.
I’m definitely willing to take time to help out a neighbor. I would even be willing to help out Law Enforcement. But there is a difference, to me, emotionally, being offering to HELP, voluntarily, and being compelled or something being done without my consent or knowledge. The feeling and the respect isn’t quite the same to me. I will happily help when afforded gratitude or respect.
I do the same. Facebook is great if you know your neighbors. I lurk on NextDoor to see what is going on near me by people I don’t know.
I’ve gone through phases of Nextdoor. My last neighborhood I used it all the time to see what was going on near me. No real drama ever happens in my new neighborhood so sometimes I kind of forget it even exists at this point.
About 3 years ago we had some door handle yankers.
This is a little off topic, but I do feel that Wyze never gets enough credit for it’s legal stance on never giving over cloud video footage to the police without a warrant.
Not ever.
You’d be shocked to know how many popular security companies do this. Just another reason I’m proud to work here.
As a Law Enforcement officer, I like your idea of law enforcement creating a database with contact information for people with cameras within our county. The form listed above gives more information than what I feel is needed. As you stated, if we had a list of persons with cameras in a given area, a mass e-mail could be sent out to all with cameras in the area along with a brief case history and the information we need. Anyone who may have footage could then reply with the information.
This is a great need for law enforcement as supplying cameras to cover a given jurisdiction would be almost impossible.
Once someone decided to yank off my car’s side mirror. Another time someone bent my windshield wiper arms (not the blades) backwards. Fun times…
If there’s a hidden battery dash cam option from Wyze, I would put it in my car whenever I need to park in a sketchy neighborhood.
I wont either
I can’t help but wonder (and I am being serious) if this is a follow-on from the Afroman raid incident a year or two ago. Short version is that Local/County police raided his home, and in doing so yanked out his in-home cameras so they would not be observed (in addition to causing other significant property damage - and infamously eating his cake that had been left in the kitchen).
I am not making this up.
By registering cameras, police could potentially de-activate cameras in advance. (I admit that’s a bit tin-foil-hat.)
Im surprised they dont ask for medical history and income as well.
Seems a bit nosey to me.
I dont blame you. I would not either. If i had a recording that i felt needed, i would download it and hand it to them.
I lived in California years ago. They require other types of items to be registered as well. I never did because its not their business.
I definitely am on the side of NO I WILL NOT EVER SIGN UP FOR THIS TYPE OF THING.
Like some have said, I would be willing to (at least initially/ give it a chance) for some type of registry with the police that they can contact me to let me know that there was X issue in my area and see if I have anything that could help them. On the off-chance that something I had was actually useful to them and it went to court, I would consider agreeing to testify.
THE BIGGEST CONCERN I see, especiallywith the list of Required/ Requested is that the information they want is WAY WAY too detailed. If anyone with any “ill- intent” got ahold of that information it would basically be a free road map of assistance in committing a crime to that house or even in the area. If you look up cities or areas that have ever had a weapon registry or safe/ secure box registry, you will see that the number of incidents in that local was drastically changed after the registry was implemented. I personally remember my grandfather telling me about how one of the small towns he lived in long ago had a type of registry with the police department for the people that had weapons. The police department/ town was soo small (and this was long ago enough in the past) that the police had options to “deputize” some of their residents in certain situations so they wanted to know who was “useful” and have an idea of the weapons and a background check. …. Well this resulted in someone getting ahold of this list and the person then went and stole weapons from almost everyone on the list before it was figured out.