I haven’t watched any Skeleton Crew but have seen the trailer, and I like Jude Law and Nick Frost. What I’m really eager to see is the next season of Andor. That first one had a slow burn at the beginning but then became maybe my favorite series (so far) from the franchise, and Luthen Rael’s ship is the coolest vehicle I’ve ever seen in a Star Wars show. Even if someone wasn’t into science fiction in general or Star Wars in particular, I think that show is really written and executed well as a complex character drama…that just happens to be set a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away….
I also haven’t watched any of The Boys, but I’ve heard that it’s funny and violent.
Oh sweet. Kind of reminds me of Brandon Sanderson’s “The Reckoners” (Steelheart) where nearly everyone with superpowers was corrupted to be bad. I thought it was a cool idea. Of course, Sanderson is definitely not obscene. So I guess it’s more like the live action version of “invincible”.
While I don’t particularly want or seek out “obscene” (I typically think it’s unnecessary and have a preference without it) it’s also not necessarily a deal breaker to me.
Yes some what similar to invincible, live action as you stated.
The obscenity associated to this show in my opinion includes a lot of “shock value”. There are also a lot of scenes that leave little to the imagination and are gruesome. I mean if you think about it, it’s humans with “super” capabilities and not always the most intelligent or graceful are awarded with these powers. They have problems like everyone else. I watched the first season and became less interested in the second and haven’t returned to the show. Mostly because my time is limited and this didn’t end up on my “I’ll make time for it” list.
If you are into animation, Star Trek: Lower Decks (an offshoot of a single Star Trek: The Next Generation episode), just finished their run with a proper series finale conclusion in season 5.
Also, Star Trek: Prodigy season 2 just finished their season with a pretty involved adventure including Wesley Crusher as the Traveler (another Star Trek: The Next Generation and Voyager offshoot).
Yes, The Next Generation hinted at, but left the Wesley Crusher story untold. Prodigy season 2 definitely fills it in.
Lower Decks is mostly a show-of-the-week show like the original series or Strange New Worlds, but season 2 ended up continuing what got Wesley kicked out of Star Fleet Academy. There he has only a line or two; the story in that season is really about the guy who led him into his failure.
So these animated series can be powerful at filling in cannon.
We used to call them cartoons. Gumby was animation to me. Guess I got too old as far as cartoons go. I tried to watch the first Star Trek cartoons and couldn’t get into it. I don’t knock people that like cartoons or animation. I just like some thing more realistic, even black & white.
Some of their animations are great now – like on Lower Decks, I feel some of this season’s later space scenes are almost as good as TNG. But then they cut to the interior of the ship, which is definitely a cartoon, lol. But a lot of the original actors voice the characters.
One of the most fun animations I’ve seen is when Lower Decks crossed over into Strange New Worlds. There, the cartoon characters became 3D when they were played by their real-life counterparts. Strange New Worlds s02e07, “Those Old Scientists” (‘TOS’ for short, lol).
Boimler: “This era’s weird”
Mariner: “I know. Have you noticed how slow everybody talks?”
Boimler: “And quietly!”
Difference between cartoons and TV, lol
Oh yeah, Rebecca Romijn (#1 on Strange New Worlds) is married to Jerry O’Connell (#1 on Lower Decks).
An example of a real-life actress married to a cartoon character, lol.
Switching franchises, that’s one of the things (and the…unnecessary…pauses…in…dialogue) that made Ahsoka so difficult for me to watch. That’s my least favorite Star Wars series so far. I understand that some events might’ve made more sense if I’d previously watched The Clone Wars (which is animated), but still I thought the acting and direction choices were just painfully unfortunate. That thing just dragged.
As a Star Trek: The Next Generation fan, I really enjoyed The Orville.
Oh geez, if you haven’t watched “The Clone Wars” TV Series and “Rebels” then, yeah, you’re missing A LOT of context by jumping into the live action Asoka.
I actually REALLY like the Clone wars series. I’m not even sure anyone can REALLY understand anything about Anakin/Vader or the clones without watching that series. I might even rank that series above many or most of the live action Movies.
I’ve heard that The Clone Wars is really good, and I don’t have anything against animation, I’ve just never set aside the time to watch that series. Even if I had, though, I’m pretty sure I still would’ve been disappointed by Ahsoka’s terrible pacing. As much as people have bashed The Acolyte, even though parts of it were predictable at least it didn’t feel like it was trying to artificially heighten the drama with…unnecessary…pauses.
It’s my understanding that Star Wars has taken a lot of criticism from long-time fans in recent years. From what I can tell the main complaints are:
From people mad that it doesn’t follow the Legends timeline (nostalgia and investment, quality and expansive integration of legends, etc)
Kathleen Kennedy meddling and poor management. She keeps causing a lot of instability and inconsistency (ex: changing directors frequently so things don’t flow well or maintain a consistent vision). There’s also a lot of people really mad at her over her heavy push for diversity/representation, and often ruining potentially great characters by making them too “Mary Sue” with no faults or growth as early star wars had. She will often try to override Dave Filoni and Jan Favreau, who Fans trust to work with G. Lucas and do it all right.
I would say that 60%-80% of complaints and active opposition fall into one of those 2 things. Most fans want nothing more than for Kathleen Kennedy to get fired and quit meddling with what they perceive as her token agendas instead of focusing on great story telling, character development, and organic world building which were all CRITICAL to building the classic Star Wars universe in general…and she’s failed to live up to that standard as she puts her energies elsewhere and strays from the core themes and spirit of the original vision.
Despite all that, I really enjoy them all, but I also pick up on a lot of the nuances missed by most people since I’ve read A LOT of the legends, etc. So something that may seem boring or lacking to one person is still pretty awesome to me because Dave Filoni’s subtle Easter Eggs are phenomenal.
I do have to admit that they could improve their CGI, Writing Quality, and directing choices in many ways. And some of their creative choices could use some adjustment too, including plot, pacing, dialogue, tone, visual style, etc. I think the live Action Asoka is nowhere near as cool as the Clone Wars Asoka, and moves so stiffly and uncoordinated by comparison. Also, there is a huge sub plot you’re missing related to the Mortis Gods. But yea, I get it. I could definitely see how it’s boring.
Yes, and I really like the way South Park has ferociously mocked this.
I didn’t think the story itself was boring, and I think a lot of the flashbacks were sufficient to provide some context (though, clearly, not as much context as someone who’s watched The Clone Wars would have). The pacing and dialogue delivery (which I blame on direction) are just awful, though. That’s what made it a struggle for me. Visually it was good, and I’m curious about these characters that now seem stranded in another galaxy.
I added that to my watch list. Probably my favorite fan projects are Kevin Rubio’s Troops and the first episode of the Pink Five saga.
That’s funny, I didn’t even know South Park mocked it (I just went and Googled it to see). They naturally exaggerated a single part of the issues people have with her to make it more easily viral. But there are a lot of reasons to dislike how she’s handled things. Honestly, they should just switch her to some other project category and let Dave Filoni (supervising director for the Clone Wars TV show under George Lucas) take over Lucas Films entirely. That would restore fans’ faith and excitement quite a bit.
