I have yet to find a SINGLE ad that says “Active insternet service is required for this product to work.” Omission of a very importan fact to someone looking for new product – BTW I do HAVE for 10 years a hard wired Night Owl system. Cans are getting old and for whatever reasons are losing their night resolution or clairtity. Also older software does not have 2019 wifi improvements. So is it wrong for a consumer to look at the ads and see easy wifi setup and use to not spend hours looking for “Active internet REQUIRED for use” statements?
Every camera ad shows “Free 14-day rolling cloud storage” and we all know where the cloud resides.
I agree, Wyze could set these up to work without Internet after the initial setup. I wish they did but this is not a privacy issue, it’s a convenience issue.
Cloud based??? Then WHY MUST you OPT IN to using Wyze “CLOUD BASED” services if you do NOT want nor need them? You must agree to the “Terms & Conditions” and pay a fee to use the CLOUD based services that Wyze offers. NOTHING states that you must use active internet to use the cameras.
I keep repeating that there has been NOTHING from Wyze that their software REQUIRES ACTIVE internet service. Making the cloud based services OPTIONAL is at least misleading and failure to disclose the required active internet is decieving to potiential purchasers.
Using cloud based services, for what seems decades to achive one location storage of multiple location data and access, it is ALWAYS an optional consumer based choice - NEVER has any company made it mandatory as appaently Wyze is doing.
It seems you have limited knowlwedge of game cams that require local retrieval of image capture. We have utilized game cams to monitor remote locations (mining & logging) to see what happened - past tense with evidence delivered to authories for criminal investigations. Been there - done that.
The constant live and notification “feature” of the Wyze products looking outside could be an atractive benefit of a closed Wifi access system when such remote locations are being activly utilized. Animals that have had unfettered access to areas will remain curious when human activity invades or returns to their space. They may be wary but rarely totally avoident of “their” space.
I have a 10 yr old Night Owl hard wired 8 cam system. It has 2008-9 software that doesn’t have 2020 capibilities to utilize 2020 wifi routers and technology. Why would I NOT look for better (and a LOT cheaper - Wyze cam $20 vs Night Owl @ $90), easier to use products vs the physical labor reqired to take down and remount external structure cameras & a hard drive recorder (single use device $190 vs the tablet $60 I bought for Wyze cams) since I became mobility challeneged a few years ago? That Night Owl system has been hard wired so it could be monitored from a hard wired location - not the freedom of wifi.
I don’t know if it is just me but from what I understand anything that does not require a hub means it needs to connect somewhere to be managed centrally and to do that you will need an active connection whether internet or Bluetooth at least. It would be great to have the feature of not having the devices rely on active internet connection that is why some of my devices I’ve flashed to use RTSP and use TinyCam as control panel.
Hopefully they can allow old v2s to connect through the hub for local connectivity and managment. That would be awesome in my opinion.
You made a mistake. You didn’t understand what you were doing. No one lied to you.
4 Likes
You don’t. As stated, the 14 day rolling cloud based service is included free with the cameras.
If you want CamPlus, a service of it’s own, then you have to pay.
Cloud based service is not optional. It’s part of the service when you buy a camera. The 14 day event recordings and notifications both require cloud services.
Not really. I have several mounted at our camp. I just don’t know what you expect to achieve here.
What is your goal?
Wyze to specifically advertise that Wifi cameras, all of their devices really, require a connection to their servers?
Wyze to change the setup so we can connect directly to the cameras without an Internet connection?
These things aren’t likely to happen but if you have a specific goal I will try to help you.
1 Like
I agree with many others. WYZE didn’t “lie” to you. That’s really an unfair charge to make and damage their reputation before others. They never told you that it was not a cloud based product, in fact so many times the cloud is spoken of for camera use.
The product isn’t what you want. When you figured that out, you should immediately have contacted support to send it back, after verifying with them that it can’t meet your needs. I’ve found WYZE support to be very good to work with.
I’m not trying to be mean, but I am saying that you are being rather unfair with your words. They never lied to you. I hope you find a different product that does do what you want and need.
2 Likes
They are wireless, not magic. Or maybe Wyse will refund your money. If not, I’ll give you $5.00 for each camera. Hava a nice day.
2 Likes
This is a great example of how you can protect your privacy. For me it is a good read. Hope this helps.
http://www.securitysynapse.com/2019/07/wyze-cameras-keeping-honest-vendors-honest-I.html
- Maybe its time to let go of the Shift or Caps Lock key
- We should add “internet connection required”, “smartphone required” and “electricity required”. Just for good measure.
- Wyze does not sell Cloud Services. It sells CamPlus.
3 Likes
Looks potentially of interest but I’m sick of trying to read poorly formatted blogs that don’t bother to wrap text.
This is on the WYZE Cam V2 Information Page:
Connectivity Requirements: Upload speed 1.0 Mbps for SD and 1.5 Mbps for HD
3 Likes
I have a couple of cameras in the house that I do not want on all the time. They are on overnight (1am to 7am) and all the time while we’re away. I have them plugged into Wyse plugs, and set rules as to when they’re on. With this, the power is completely cut to the cameras and they can’t just turn on on their own. It’s worked flawlessly (I check the cameras during the scheduled “off” times and they always show up as unavailable).
I believe if you install RSTP, that would meet your expectations. You can set IP addresses that way and make them static. Other then that, your stuck with WYZE’s terms of service.
1 Like
I’m using RSTP on 3 wyze cams. A pan cam and a new version v2 and older v2.
New RSTP firmware was released and all three cameras have reliable connections with less then optimal signal levels,
I am in a low noise environment RF wise.
The simplest least invasive method I use to view them is VLC player, which I already use as my default video player.
There are many very good payware programs that can take that RSTP stream and do all sorts of wonderful things like self contained (NON CLOUD) person tracking many also don’t require any connection to the cloud/internet whatsoever.
I’m using all of these cameras outdoors in the pouring western Washington rain and wind with only very slight modification.
P.S. To OP you could wrap your room in heavy duty aluminum foil (copper screen being a better but more expensive choice) and pound in some 6+ foot long copper-clad ground rods tie those with wide copper straps (you’re looking for a low inductance path here) to the shielding material at all four corners at least,
Perhaps sprinkle a pound or two powdered ferrite dust all over the place just for good measure(you never know).
1 Like
Wyze RTSP firmware still requires a Wyze account and Internet connection.
But the Dafang Hacks RTSP firmware does not.
Are you saying that with the Wyze RTSP the relevant local URL stops working after an Internet outage even if you have reserved the DHCP leased IP address at the router?
I am saying nothing more than what I posted. There was no hidden meaning. 
The person I responded to was suggesting Wyze RTSP firmware.
The OP is worried about connecting to Wyze servers. The Wyze RTSP firmware still requires Wyze server connection.
Absolutely NOT, I don’t require any internet connection to run RTSP.
Please Google RTSP so you can understand how it works.
It only requires a WiFi connection no need to be connected to the imternet other then downloading the new firmware.
1 Like
I understand RTSP.
The Wyze app is required to turn Wyze RTSP on and to get the link. Also the camera is still connected to your Wyze account. This is a Wyze server connection.
After that, yes you should be able to view the camera without Internet.
I think the OP still expects notifications and 12 second event videos though. Also she seems concerned that the cameras are connected to the Wyze account. That’s why I don’t think RTSP is going to resolve her issue.
I really don’t know. She’s never really given her expectations.