After reading here about Wyze Docker Bridge, I tried it. Maybe it works OK if you have a few cameras but on mine, some cameras display OK, some are unstable and still others won’t display. That’s about the same experience I had with the Wyze Webview, that’s to say, not very good. And you need to comfortable with linux to run the bridge. The average user here isn’t.
Could you let us know which cameras did you go with, and are you using NVR or stand-alone recording and on-board processing of motion/person/pet detection? I am ready to move to next step, it won’t replace Wyze since it’s still very convenient for certain things, but I need to supplement with something better and reliable, something with POE if needed.
I ended up going with
3 Reolink 510a cams (poe), they have a narrower horizontal FOV but a bigger vertical FOV, which worked well in the spots I needed.
3 tapo c310s – these are the best bang for your buck cameras available IMO. You can get them on sale for $30, they’re 2k, have tripline/intrusion/motion detection (like amcrest and all ‘real’ security cams do), and while they’re not PoE they have an ethernet option. And it just happens that where I need them, they wouldn’t be coming from one of my PoE switches, and i would have been plugging in a PoE injector there anyway.
3 Amcrest 4k bullet cams, they’re like $90, but they are 100% worth it if you want and need all the features (RTMP, 5 separate tripline zones all on different schedules, etc), insane crisp 4k image, tamper detection and alarms, etc.
All of those are running on Scrypted NVR, so nothing goes to the cloud, I have scrypted object detection and automations in HomeKit, HKSV for all of those cams as a backup (well, really for my wife lol), and even if internet goes out, they’re all local,
Definitely a lot of work and money, but to have the setup I have now, and never pay another cloud service, never have my data leave my network, it’s so worth it.
For anyone interested, Scrypted now natively has support for Wyze cameras too.i believe they copied a lot of the open source code from docker Wyze bridge for the compatibility. That’s what I plan to implement as soon as I get some free time (I already have a mini PC setup to use as a server for this, then I plan to route all the detections into home assistant for more advanced automations with all my smart home stuff)
For those wondering the difference between this and regular detection zones like Wyze uses, I Believe the primary difference is precision. Wyze detection zones can sometimes alert you and record when an object gets close to a detection zone border if the invisible object bounding box (think similar to the green motion tag box) potentially overlaps into the detection zone, even if the object itself doesn’t actually cross it. A tripwire line is similar to a detection zone, but would require the pixel changes to actually occur on both sides of the line to be reported. Both would record the same event, depending on the sensitivity setting limitations. They’re both detection zone implementations and can depend on your preference.
Tripline benefits: precision, directional control (you could tell it to only alert when someone comes toward your house, and ignore events of you leaving your house)
Limitations: some people report near fov edge issues, event trigger delays for fast moving objects, configuration placement requiring attention to detail.
Regular detection zones advantages: customizable zones covering entire areas on screen, selective activity type (person, etc) so there are reduced false detections from this, and it won’t give constant alerts while you stand in your lawn or porch because you’re not continually crossing the line toward the house.
Disadvantages: limited precision (as described above), No directional control (they will alert to you leaving your own house the same as someone else coming toward your house), so you might get continual alerts when you’re doing something on your own property.
I’m honestly flabbergasted this isn’t an option (to the point I want to cancel my pro subscription and buy cameras from your competitors instead.
Which competitor(s) are you considering that do natively offer 90-degree rotation?
I have found it to be a rare feature among most brands. Kind of drives me crazy because I I hate having the long view have to go with the width when I want to use it for something like a hallway, stairs, and other narrow coverage areas. I have used cameras from at least 5 brands and none of them so far have supported this natively. I finally just started using some 3rd party integrations that will convert my stream to RTSP and reorient the view by 90 degrees for me in their program instead.
I’m not sure why so many brands avoid 90 degree rotation. It seems it would be a common use for narrow recording areas where width isn’t as important/needed.
Thanks for the details and especially introducing us to tripline type of motion sensing option, this could be great for front of the house where there is always some activity, I am not sure what’s going on with wyze lately I am getting a lot of trees motion as well as “vehicle detected” when vehicle has been stationary for last 10 hours.
Narrower horizontal FOV could be really helpful, is it actually 1:1 or something even narrower, never seen a camera like that. I just wonder why the lenses can’t be mounted that way for permanently vertical view on these wyze cams, maybe make a wide version of it? You shared a lot of very cool information, I’ll definitely mark this for future read and shopping.
Armcrest 4k for $90 sounds great, speed is really a factor for me because wyze has been getting slower and slower. I get the internet coverage problems but that shouldn’t slow down just downgrade the bitrate, don’t give me choppy image. I see they have armcrest POE for $95, why didn’t you go with those instead?
Which competitor(s) are you considering that do natively offer 90-degree rotation?
I’ve yet to see a “real camera” (a local IP Security Camera) that does not have the ability to rotate 90 degrees. All Hikvision, Amcrest, Lorex, even Reolink.
The reolink 510wa and 510a are great cameras, the ‘wa’ is 5ghz wifi, but, 5ghz wifi is a whole different world than 2.4 wifi. 510a is just PoE, and therefore cheaper as well.
I’m not sure why so many brands avoid 90 degree rotation. It seems it would be a common use for narrow recording areas where width isn’t as important/needed.
A big reason that most ‘cloud cams’ don’t offer it is because there is some compute power needed to transcode to 90/270, that is not required when flipping it upside down. It is not a lot compute power needed, but it’s more resource intensive than the chip inside a sub $30 camera can deal with.
And since most video is going from camera, to cloud, and back to your phone, that bit of computation would slow things down even more, since they would have to make that flip on their end.
However, if you can pull RTSP from them and go to Scrypted or whatever, then it’s a simple FFMPEG flag/command, and you’re using your own computer/pi/nuc/etc to do it.
In terms of FOV, the Reolink 5MP cameras are basically a 4:3 aspect ratio, which you can change to a 16:9 ratio if you want (not sure why on a security cam, but, to each their own).
And I did go with Amcrest, for 3 cameras, they’re phenomenal, here’s the options you have on those:
And speaking of slowness and bitrates, cloud cams don’t have options to control what you mentioned. Some people want the highest quality video to save, and don’t care about speed, they have that option. Most people want the highest quality, but not at the expensive of choppiness when you really need to see something. So, you have Variable bit rate (VBR), and can choose what your max bit rate is as well.
6 years this wish has been going, and Wyze has not implemented 90° rotation? That’s not an indication that Wyze is listening.
Wyze, this should be a simple feature to implement. You should be embarrassed that you haven’t.
Wow. I checked that voted back then.
Should refile as maybe not.
Ability to Rotate in 90 deg Increments
It would be nice to be able to rotate the view in 90 degree increments as one of my cameras I have in portrait orientation. It’s useful for when people walk up on my deck.
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I need this too!
Would be nice if my camera fell on its side.
+1 vote for 90deg rotate in app. I mount the camera sideways to take advantage of the additional field of view so I can monitor down a long hallway. I don’t care if the preview image in app features black bars to fit the portrait video feed within a landscape video container. I also don’t really care where the timestamp shows up tbh.
The timestamp isn’t a concern for Wyze. It’s that there should be enough space for the Wyze logo on the bottom left.
Wow, MODS actually read this, I just wish Wyze developers could finally push this through and get it working, instead of working on random stuff that nobody asked for.
Anyway, it’s about time I just unsubscribe from this thread because I don’t think this is happening anytime soon.
I’m upvoting this. The new battery pro shape would require me to mount sideways to fit where I need it, but won’t buy it without to 90° rotate.
I need this feature as well.