Thanks. I will check out the video. It is worth a look just for comparison’s sake. Wyze cams work fine for me, at the moment.
It may have been chance, but a lot of the posts I saw concerning Wyze pan cams was with panning issues. I may have to re-evaluate.
What models of lights do you have, as I don’t see any voice control on mine? 
Humor me, what’s chartreuse? 
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Chartreuse is a bright yellowish-green. I saw a sportscar in that color. Not my choice. I had no idea at first, but I wanted to test the bulbs.
I have (KL125P2) as the P2 indicates a two-pack. I set the voice commands through Google Home. I have a Google mini in my family room.
I have the same type of bulbs. For some reason I though you can control them natively through the app 
Don’t have Google, Alexa and Siri are my gals 
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I would think there should be a way to use your available options and use a Wyze plug-in or personality to those said apps.
Yes there is, not so much with Siri as Wyze doesn’t support HomeKit. I have two Echo Dots, one in the office and one in the kitchen. My wife and I use them mostly to play music. Have no need to automate our lights with voice control. All my Kasa lights are outdoor lights and use dusk to dawn and away schedules as needed.
Plus, I can still flip a switch
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In your use case, that makes sense. I just use my bulbs for theater lighting.
I also use my Google Home Minis for music, asking about the weather or some trivia question.
Same here, I’m old but not that old 
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Competition is definitely good, even if it isn’t enough to make people switch, if new people want the AI detection included and start buying TP Link, maybe we’ll get some free AI from Wyze (they can save package detection or others for paying members).
The video quality on the v4 definitely looks superior (both night and day). The license plate zoomed in definitely looks like more compression however it could just be the sensor is lower quality too (I guess the worse night quality might imply it is not as good of an image/starlight sensor).
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The main issue that people complain about on the Pan v3 is that the “home” position creeps over time. They use calculations to return the camera to home but it turns out tolerances in the hardware aren’t accurate enough for that to be perfect, so depending if it goes left to right or right to left (or up vs. down) the gears and motors move a slightly different distance than it expects, and it gradually creeps off the home position.
For me, I reboot it once a week (which recalibrates it and it returns to exact home position) and the creep is not bad enough to matter. Especially when it seems to ignore my detection zone when track motion is enabled anyway. If motion tracking is off and you have like a tree greyed out I guess the creep becomes an issue.
I’m really happy with the two Pan v3s I have and honestly I’m surprised how well they’ve held up, one is moving constantly all day with all the cars and people going by. Just be aware that if you mount it upside down, it has to be totally protected from rain. I was very careful about where and how I mounted it but during a windy rainstorm, some got in around the rotating base. So my replacement is mounted right side up. Not as ideal but still works for where I have it. I’ve seen others that built a little dome to go over it to protect it but it wasn’t critical for me to have it upside down.
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There is no progress without competition. Someone smarter than me said that, but can’t remember who!
Personally, package detection is an oxymoron or redundant at least. You can’t have package without a person detection. Unless we live in Hogwarts, package will not come to our doorsteps without a person carrying it. So, get rid of Package detection altogether, it is useless.
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Ahhh your delivery drivers must be n00bs. Ours are high level masters that can pitch a package from the sidewalk and have it land on the top step from 10 feet away. I have one OG aimed down with a detection zone of only my steps and sensitivity set to 100 in order to catch the flying packages. And the occasional bird flying through.
I suppose for others not in the same lazy delivery situation as me, if you leave a cooldown period and the package happens to get delivered during that, maybe package detection would be useful there. Not sure if that’s how it works though, since I don’t have a subscription.
But its lack of usefulness is why I suggested leaving that one for paying subscribers 
I suppose if you want to know when you have a package but don’t want to know when people come and go, maybe that’s a use case for package detection without person detection.
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Thanks for the chuckle, my delivery folks are the same as yours 
That is exactly what I meant, useless waste of resources.
That would be idiotic, but that might just be me and you
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It isn’t something I’d want (I want to know anytime a person walks within my detection zone, whether or not they’re carrying a package). But who knows, maybe there are a bunch of people whose neighbors deal drugs with lots of people coming and going and they just want to retrieve their package before said druggies steal them?
I guess for the flying package scenario it would help me filter out the bird or moth (at night) alerts, but there aren’t very may of those. And sometimes the pictures are quite entertaining. And honestly I don’t trust the AI enough to recognize every kind of package. Main issue here is if it is raining, my top step is right under a drip edge and I need to get the box quickly (they must also teach that in Ninja delivery school, put it right where it is wettest, and definitely do not walk up and ring the bell).
So for me, I just have a very specific and highly sensitive detection zone. If anything moves, I can see right on the alert picture if it is a package or not. That’s fine by me.
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The art of bowling…
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Yes, and I addressed those in another topic:
That seems like a sensible compromise, and if the delivery of on-board AI model updates is in any way similar to the way firmware is updated, then I wonder if those could be rolled in periodically, as well—at Wyze’s option.
Or what about this? Maybe a potential revenue model could be similar to what some companies have done in the past with things like map updates for GPS receivers: You can pay a subscription fee to get updates within the term of the subscription, or you could pay a one-time fee for an update that’s available now. I don’t know if that makes sense with AI detection models. I think in order to make that both useful and attractive to the customer, Wyze would have to demonstrate that there’s a real value to the customer, so even doing something that way would probably cost Wyze more than it’s worth. 
Yeah, I recently re-read those, and I’d definitely agree. I think it would serve the company well if everyone at Wyze took the time to read and internally process those again.
The “Detected Events” list (I’m doing full-time recording to microSD without a subscription, just like I do with my Wyze cameras) shows thumbnail images as well as icons that indicate the type of AI-enabled detection that triggered a given event.
I also do that with my Wyze Bulb Colors 
(using Google Home devices).
You’re welcome!
One of mine is essentially a personal assistant. If I want to add an appointment or reminder to my calendar, I often find it’s easier to just do that with my voice than to open a calendar app or browser tab. It’s also my morning alarm, additional doorbell announcement, and many other things. Sometimes I feel like I’m living in Star Trek times since I can just talk to a computer to get information and make things happen.
That actually made me laugh. 
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That’s the most gentle and careful Fedex Ground delivery I’ve ever seen.
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