DST Begins March 9th 2am 🕑

[StevenA]

Here is something kind of cool. A alarm clock camera case for Wyze cameras.

Amazon.com: Wasserstein Alarm Clock Camera Case - Compatible with Wyze Cam...

[ssummerlin]

@Antonius

clocks in my vehicles don’t change to DST automatically

Hopefully they keep time. My old cars did not.

My 2023 clock gets it off of GPS, I believe. Usually it is GPS, but the last 3 cars also get an IP address from Acura, so it could be NTP.

@p2788deal

GPS signals should know the time, because everything about GPS is based on time. The vehicle time should have been taking input from the GPS.

I was told the newer vehicles now do this.

How old is your car? I cannot remember what I now take for granted, but I am fairly sure since 2016.

@K6CCC

I’ll find out in a few days. I just bought a 2024 Ford Lightning and we’ll see if the clock update correctly.

It should.

@Antonius

Did it come with an extension cord?

I remember when I went to the deep north my first time, their cars used extension cords to plugs into an AC outlet. I parked my car at the hotel and saw AC outlets about 4-feet high in front of my car and thought this would be a great place to wash my car. Apparently they need engine heaters.

[p2788deal]

@ssummerlin

How old is your car?

2013 model. I keep my cars a long time.

[StevenA]

@ssummerlin

I cannot remember what I now take for granted, but I am fairly sure since 2016.

I think you are correct. I have 2014, 2015 and 2016 Toyota vehicles in my family. My 2016 is the only one with built-in GPS (and auto change to DST).

[ssummerlin]

@p2788deal

I would try the new WiFi wall clocks.

Seems like Wifi Clocks only connect to 2.4 GHz. I would really like to minimize my 2.4 GHz usage. If it can connect to 5 GHz, definitely a good option.

For wrist watch, a GPS time-controlled watch looks like a good alternative.

Here's why Trump wants to get rid of Daylight Saving Time

[carverofchoice]

There was a more recent interview where it was indicated that it’s not likely going to happen because the issue is divided at almost 50/50 for which time it should lock in at, which means nobody can agree.

This is why I like the option of the feds not forcing anyone onto a certain time zone, but just make a law that says all states are free to decide for themselves whether they pick DST or ST. Right now, the Feds only allow states 2 choices: ST or keep changing. They’re not allowed to stay on DST, and my state passed a law to stay on DST, but it can’t go into effect until the feds make DST legal. Right now that’s not allowed. You can stop changing time zones like AZ, but only if you pick ST. So the solution is to just have the feds overturn their laws/rules that only allow ST. Then all states are free to pick ST or DST or change if they want.

My state just proposed a bill to stop the time zone on ST until the feds allow DST and then they’ll switch permanently to DST at that time. I hope that goes through.

[ssummerlin]

@carverofchoice

make a law that says all states are free to decide for themselves whether they pick DST or ST.

That would be a traveling nightmare.

If we are ever forced to live in 15-minute cities, that would work. Traveling across country will make trip planning more difficult. Even if our watches and car clocks can adjust as quick as we cross the border, circadian rhythm would be messed up.

Currently I don’t need to travel to or through AZ or HI, but when I did it was an amusement. On the the case of HI, the normal time-shift was acceptable.

I sure hope and pray that that they never allow states to mess with time. That would be insane. I agree that states should have control over some things but not when it can affect a global audience.

The world is crazy enough. I would gladly accept a nationwide system than having to live in a hodge-podge mess.

@carverofchoice

There was a more recent interview where it was indicated that it’s not likely going to happen because the issue is divided at almost 50/50

Please provide link to most recent report.

I am sure we can cherry-pick a survey for our liking but still want to get more info.

[K6CCC]

@ssummerlin

For wrist watch, a GPS time-controlled watch looks like a good alternative.

Just an FYI, most watches and until recently clocks that automatically set time are using WWVB and not GPS. I have worn a Casio “Wave Ceptor” for many years.
Cellphones almost universally take time from the cellular network. This can cause problems in certain areas. I have several times stayed at a hotel right on the Arizona / Nevada border that is on a little peninsula that juts towards the other state. So depending on which side of the building I was on, my phone might connect to a cell site in Arizona (Mountain time) or it might connect to a cell site in Nevada (Pacific time). So the cellphone time was regularly swapping time zones. Pain in the neck, so became very important to use my wristwatch for time, and NOT use the alarm clock on the cellphone.

[ssummerlin]

@K6CCC

Just an FYI, most watches and until recently clocks that automatically set time are using WWVB and not GPS

Most but not all. Check Amazon. I learned there are GPS watches while traveling in the middle east. I had to manually set my Wave Cepter while there.

While there are more radio-controlled stations around the world, GPS has more reach than any other timing method. Some kitchen clocks are controlled by wifi and may be better choice over other options.

Buy latest technology.

[p2788deal]

@K6CCC

Arizona / Nevada border that is on a little peninsula that juts towards the other state

This reminds me of a store in Primm, NV. Since the state does not allow lottery ticket sales, the store added a section, but across the border in CA. Since CA allows lottery, store customers walk across the state boundary (while still inside the store) and buy their tickets there.

[K6CCC]

@p2788deal

This reminds me of a store in Primm, NV. Since the state does not allow lottery ticket sales, the store added a section, but across the border in CA.

I’ve been in that store - but not for lottery tickets…

[StevenA]

Here is the latest news on lotteries in Nevada.

Resort industry looks to stop Nevada lottery proposal from reaching the ballot...

[TomG]

March 7, 2025

[carverofchoice]

Honestly, I would be supportive a universal timezone. Then adjust your regional expectations for sun preferences since the sun is already totally inconsistent and constantly fluctuating.

Don’t worry, I know that will never happen. Too many people cling to convention, tradition, culture, etc. But we have a lot of data with large organizations running on Universal timezones and most of the fears and cons turned out to be not a big deal compared to the benefits.

@ssummerlin

@carverofchoice

There was a more recent interview where it was indicated that it’s not likely going to happen because the issue is divided at almost 50/50

Please provide link to most recent report.

It was a video of someone asking Trump about it this week, and he said something along the lines of it being a 50-50 issue, so with it being so evenly divided, it’s too hard to get enough support or enthusiasm behind a change on either side even within a single partisan vote. Some want more light in the morning, some in the evening, and even his own supporters can’t agree what to do without alienating the other half who only want the other way.

The above is a paraphrased interpretation since I don’t have the link offhand…I’m panic-working all weekend to get enough work done before I fly out to Hawaii for a funeral, but it should be pretty easy to find a source or the video by searching for something like “Trump 50-50 daylight saving.”

This is why I think the only thing that would get enough support is to simply have the feds release their hold over the issue and let the states decide for themselves. Then it’s not “his fault” if one state picks the opposite of someone else’s preference. They can blame their legislature and governor.

@ssummerlin

we can cherry-pick a survey for our liking

Oh don’t get me wrong, I wish the above wasn’t true. It isn’t for my liking. My liking would be absolutely ANY decision that stops the shifting madness. I don’t really care which side wins as long as it stops.
I’m even okay with a compromise where we no longer use numbers and instead invent an entirely new system that uses symbols with no numbers on them so both sides can think their number is the same as their preferred symbol, just as long as it is a STATIC time.

Maybe I like SciFi too much, but they don’t need timezones in SciFi And hey, we might be interplanetary sometime this century. Why not get an early start?

[ssummerlin]

@carverofchoice

It was a video of someone asking Trump about it this week, and he said something along the lines of it being a 50-50 issue, so with it being so evenly divided, it’s too hard to get enough support or enthusiasm behind a change on either side even within a single partisan vote.

Yes. I did see that news conference.

@carverofchoice

I don’t really care which side wins as long as it stops.

I agree.

@carverofchoice

Maybe I like SciFi too much, but they don’t need timezones in SciFi And hey, we might be interplanetary sometime this century. Why not get an early start?

True. Maybe star dates or something related to the sun in general, until we leave our universe. We may need timezones on the Moon and Mars soon.

[ssummerlin]

@K6CCC

Just an FYI, most watches and until recently clocks that automatically set time are using WWVB and not GPS. I have worn a Casio “Wave Ceptor” for many years.

I asked AI about Watches that use GPS timekeeping. I wanted more information than I found on Amazon, so I asked AI. I enjoy my Casio Wave Ceptor, but I occasionally am outside of radio range.

Does someone make watches that have their time set by GPS? Can you name a few brands?

Yes, there are watches that use GPS technology to automatically set the time based on your location. Here are a couple of notable brands:

• G-Shock (Casio): Some G-Shock models, like the GPW-2000 and Rangeman GPR-B1000, feature GPS timekeeping. These watches can sync with GPS signals to adjust the time and even determine the time zone.
• Citizen: Their Satellite Wave GPS series is designed to receive time signals from GPS satellites. These watches can adjust to the correct time and date anywhere in the world, as long as there’s open sky above3.

Both brands offer durable and reliable options, often with additional features like solar power and advanced sensors.

Here are some specific GPS-enabled watch models from G-Shock and Citizen:

G-Shock (Casio)

1. GPR-B1000 Rangeman: Designed for outdoor enthusiasts, it features GPS navigation, solar charging, and extreme durability.
2. GPW-2000 Gravitymaster: Combines GPS timekeeping with Bluetooth connectivity for precise time adjustments.
3. GBD-H2000: A sports-focused model with GPS for tracking distance, speed, and pace, along with fitness features like a heart rate monitor.

Citizen

1. Satellite Wave GPS Freedom (CC3038-51E): Offers GPS timekeeping and a sleek design, perfect for everyday wear.
2. Satellite Wave GPS F950 (Attesa): A high-end model with world time functionality, Eco-Drive technology, and a durable titanium case.
3. Satellite Wave GPS CC7005-16E: Known for its fast GPS signal reception and dual time display, ideal for frequent travelers.

Both brands offer a range of options tailored to different needs, from rugged outdoor adventures to sophisticated urban lifestyles.

[p2788deal]

Any portable GPS device (what hikers usually use) can receive accurate local time. I have a couple of old ones, bought in 2002 and 2014. They still work but I no longer have a use for them. I remember using the newer one to mark where I parked my car the last time I attended a major league baseball game.

[ssummerlin]

@p2788deal

ny portable GPS device (what hikers usually use) can receive accurate local time.

Yes. I definitely like the small form factor of a watch that doesn’t look like a GPS.

[ssummerlin]

@p2788deal

My next wall clock wouldn’t be radio-controlled. I would try the new WiFi wall clocks.

I like Wifi for a wall clock. GPS radio-controlled wall clock could have an issue inside of a building. I guess Wifi for a watch would work. It only has to sync once a day.

[K6CCC]

@p2788deal

I remember using the newer one to mark where I parked my car the last time I attended a major league baseball game.

I have an Apple AirTag in my personal vehicle and have used that once for the same purpose at a baseball game.