Beta Testing for Wyze Cam v3 RTSP Firmware Now Available!

Thanks for the tip – just ordered 2 :blush: Bummer that they are indoors only.

I was going to get 2 of the “outdoor power adapter” units, as I like those better than the short corded thing that comes with the cameras. I see it says in big bold letters “requires Wyze Cam v3” and “Will not function with other Wyze cams”. Curious. It USB, is it not? Should work with anything that needs USB power, no?

Wow, that’s a pretty strongly worded statement, all right! My guess is they said it because the Outdoor camera requires a water-sealed connection, and this doesn’t provide it. Also, the V2 and Pan aren’t for outdoors (even though many including myself with a V2 have been successful by taking the precaution of putting the camera under an overhang). So that only leaves the V3 in an outdoor situation, I guess.

But yeah, standard USB mini connector @ standard USB voltages (but at 2A, which covers all Wyze cameras).

As far as indoors, I just hooked one up to a V2 Black, and it works great, as I would expect. :slight_smile:

Thanks for the confirmation. I figured it just had to work, but didn’t want to order without confirmation. I want to use these in sheltered areas (inside my chicken coop), so I’m not worried about them getting rained on or anything.

Thanks!

Tim

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thanks pagesmit! Amazon tell me I actually ordered that on Jan 14 2020. I know I bought and returned quite a few. Not sure what my issue was with this one. But maybe I’ll give it another shot.

One thing rather annoying is that the trend seems to be “the wider the better”. That fisheyeing compromises legibility. Oh well. I guess I’m goldilocks looking for the perfect unit :slight_smile:

Wyze has said they don’t want to continue RTSP support since they don’t want to maintain 2 branches of their firmware (which makes total sense, that’s a nightmare), but why does it have to be 2 seperate, can’t they just add RTSP to the main firmware and call it good? As far as I’m aware the RTSP firmware doesn’t lack any features of the main, so it’s not a resource management issue, but there’s gotta be some other drawback to using the RTSP firmware.

Has Wyze ever said the reason?

Allegedly the memory for the firmware is too small and so it’s an either/or proposition. The regular firmware is supposedly larger so Wyze can’t fit the RTSP components along with the regular features.

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Ah, so ig they are holding out for the v4. New devices will need more memory anyway for matter support, so maybe they are just Gunna wait it out until they know what they need.

Probably not…Wyze has said the Matter is the solution to all problems, including RTSP.

:yawning_face:

I don’t buy that reason. wz_mini_hack is able to not only implement RTSP, but also RTMP, network storage support, etc, on top of the latest firmware. And my 4 v3 cams are working just fine.

That is loaded on an SD card and only loads into memory at boot. What Wyze refers to is the non-volatile RAM for firmware on the camera’s system board. Two different things.

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As a Blue Iris user, I’m done with Wyze V3 RTSP. When I disable the Internet and I reboot, the V3 RTSP connections keeps dropping all the time. It’s a known issue for a LOOONG time. But my V2 cams RTSP version does not disconnect at all (my V2 RTSP are all great WITHOUT INTERNET). It’s strange that they can make it work for the V2 but not for the V3. This is not rocket science. Just remove the “Phone Home” function in the FW when there is no internet connection and the problem is solved.

I agree with @CatHome, Wyze abandoned V3 RTSP. Wyze don’t even care about RTSP fw and RTSP support. This forum is very useful to report bugs but Wyze keeps ignoring everything here, even after almost one year of discussions BETWEEN US ONLY. We can’t talk about Wyze RTSP support here……what support!!!
They got it right for the V2 RTSP, it shouldn’t be that hard for the V3. To me it’s very simple, they don’t make any money out of it and they just don’t want V3 RTSP too work as good as the V2 RTSP cams. Maybe I’m wrong but I just don’t want to wait years to find out.

I know that some people are going to say that it’s only a $50 (CAN) camera but this is not the point. The point is that Wyze said from the beginning that they would provide a V3 RTSP firmware (that FW took a long time to come out by the way), that’s why I bought some V3s at the first place. Normally, the V3 RTSP should be as reliable as the V2 cams. It`s ok to have a Beta FW to begin with, but it must end with a WORKING FW. But now instead they announced that they have removed the firmware files (even if still available) because the FW has “AGED QUITE A BIT”…(What !!!). The V2 RTSP fw is much older and will keep working good until my V2 cams die.

Anyways, NOW, with the wz_mini_hack, I can say bye bye to Wyze RTSP FW and, once the camera is configured, I can even say bye bye to the Wyze APP. I don’t need Wyze anymore for my V3 cams.

I configured wz_mini_hack to send the video stream via Ethernet (the cam USB connector) and by using an Ethernet to USB adapter (no more WiFi and no more disconnection).

I even managed to modify the Ethernet adapter (TP-LINK UE306), to make it as a POE Ethernet adapter. Of course, this method needs an Ethernet cable but now, the video streamed to Blue Iris (or VLC) is 100% reliable (all this WITHOUT WIFI DISCONNECTIONS, WITHOUT GIVING THE INTERNET ACCESS, WITHOUT THE WYZE APP, WITHOUT WYZE CLOUD, NO MORE “PHONE HOME” = Total privacy ). A big thanks to the wz_mini_hack developers, they clearly can do a better job than Wyze.

Final thought: DON`T WORRY, BE HAPPY :grinning:

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Do you happen to know if these are also data capable? I’ve asked in a couple of places with no response.

As for the v2s, are you talking stock onboard RTSP or a flashed version? For 20 bucks, I think I’ll buy a v2 Wyze Cam Black just because. Only drawbacks with those for me are limited outdoor use and their 15fps top end daytime and 10 at night.

That leads to a question (or two) about the v3 mini hacks: What is the ethernet throughput when so configured? And does the frame rate benfit from the wired connection / additional throughput?

Lastly, where does one find a relatively simple road map to acquire, assemble and install the wz-mini hacks? I’m familiar with the original effort, but has someone simplified the original explanation somewhere to make it more accessible to the non-Linux crowd – like a single download link to load everything to the SD card so you can just pop it in and boot it up with all the wonderful new features – or is it still a command line interactive excersize that just creates head scratching and frustration for most folks?

Seems like a wasted effort without reasonably simple accesssibility – unless the original purpose was to simply show it could be done, sorta…, get everyone excited, then abandon it all just like Wyze. Haven’t checked in over there lately. Anyone picked up the ball?

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I agree a simple walkthrough from download to set up video would be awesome would love to set these up off grid to watch a remote cabin.

I don’t think that this POE Adapter is data capable. They would be proud to promote this feature but they don’t. I didn’t find the manual for this product and the adapter doesn’t even seem to have model number which is not a good sing.
They promote this adapter for the Wyze V3 cam but streaming video via the V3 usb connector is NOT a stock feature, so I don’t think it’s made for that. That my opinion.

As for my V2, I’m using the original RTSP fw privided by Wyze a long time ago. I don’t recall the version number but like any other FW update, I had to flash it with the SD card.

For the V3 mini hack, I would say that the video quality is about the same. The frame rate is 20fps and the video bitrate seems to be the same too. Changing the video resolution in the hack config file does not seem to change the bitrate, but this is for me. Maybe it works for someone else?

To me, the biggest advantages of using the Ethernet hack is privacy and stability. I don’t have to give internet access to the camera at power up and to deal with the Wifi disconnections.

Concerning the hack installation, I did not find an easy guide neither. I also scratched my head with trial and error and finally got it to work. I think that with this kind of project, we all have different bugs that we have to overcome.

Hope this helps

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no matter what others are doing w these V3 w Ingenix T31 SOCs unless you have access to the vendor SDK the use is very limited. These SOCs have TPU embedded and I believe all AI is processed locally where the signal for positive is sent to Wyze and they just consume the events/video after … With SDK one would be able to funnel frames to the embedded TPU same as Frigate does with a Google Coral device… all local AI detection …no need for cloud … however this makes no sense for a business model …

Are you just making stuff up? The Wyze SOC has a Google Tensor processor?

It would be nice but I don’t think so.

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The kit also includes Linux drivers for Ingenic T31 and AI algorithms for human detection, facial detection/recognition, cry detection, vehicle detection, pet detection, as well as quick start & user guides.

Okay, yes but I think TPU refers specifically to Tensor from Google.

Do you think the T31 AI occurs on chip like Tensor does? I understood it had to be run in software off the regular CPU.

It wouldn’t make sense for Wyze to have had the whole Xnor fiasco if the algorithms were already present…

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TPUs are just highly efficient matrix math processors million of times simpler that x86 CPUs…

https://www.codementor.io/@alexander-k/tensorflow-basics-matrix-operations-13kz9riblj

The AI is process in the cloud. The only thing done locally is detection motion by comparing pixel movement.