Wyze Smoke/CO Detector

what about a sensor that would connect an existing system to the Wyze security system

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Hello,
Since wyze has gone the whole hog to offering home monitoring at $99, it portrays wyze as a serious contender to traditional alarm companies, even though that may not admittedly been by design! It however falls to lock step with and causes much negative perception on how serious it is with the monitoring service, as the co+smoke is a critical component of monitoring home conditions for customers. Apart from hobbling the obtainment of the usual discount in as homeowners insurance which is typically fire+burglary and there is no burglary standalone discount!!

Considering the range of sensors that are made available, it is not comprehensible what is so difficult to create a smoke/co sensor, which has been adopted for a generation and in such a mass scale and is a commodity item. Reluctance to roll this out immediately will make it truly an odd man out situation.

Hope it is introduced without any further ado the 2022 year end/holiday season itself!!

Thx

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Yes, I have bought two and not activated one yet.

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A life safety system that has to be absolutely 100% perfect, cannot miss a single communication or someone might die, connected to random wifi modem, dependent on AWS and the internet working perfectly, set up by random individual who can’t figure out why they can’t make their camera work across aluminum siding.

What could possibly go wrong?

Welcome to the Wyze User Community Forum @jayp26677!

Agree with you 100% that the addition of WiFi enabled Smoke\CO Detector\Alarms would be a great addition to the Wyze Sense \ Home Monitoring System. There are countless successful applications of the same technology with these exact capabilities from other manufacturers currently providing protection to homes all over the world. The utility and effectiveness of the application has already been proven and UL certified in other brands.

The addition of WiFi enabled professional monitoring and push alerts\notification only adds value to the already existing local smoke\CO alarm capability of the battery operated wall squawkers that have been in homes for decades now, The Smart Detectors do exactly what the old designs do, only better since they still audibly alarm inside the home to alert residents who are present AND alert authorities when no one is home to react to an emergency.

This is insurance company specific. My insurance company does give me a discount for the Centrally Monitored Burglary Alarm. I would get an additional discount if I had the Smoke\CO Alarm Monitoring (which Noonlight is already providing, with certificates issued, for X-Sense Smart Smoke Fire Alarm Sensor).

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Smoke detection

are you going to add smoke/co2 detection to your home security system?

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100% perfect exists only in the mind, not reality. All detectors and sensors fail. Life and death ones fail. Ever have a “Check Engine” light. NORAD fails. PC Board manufacturers have insane and multiple redundancy testing using AI capabilities which exceed imagination. Yet, at the end of the production line, there are humans to hopefully sort out the fraction of a percent that make it through the gauntlet. And they miss some…every run.

Waiting for perfection is delusional. It is the definition of a bachelor. Better is achievable, and I hope Wyze comes through soon. Their products, except the night lights, have exceeded my expectations. across the board.

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I appreciate the thought but existing smoke detectors do nothing more than wake you up. At least these are connected and working 99.8% of the time and will also contact the fire department which is feature enough to get a discount on my homeowners insurance.

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of course it is standard in the legacy system of nortel I have, that pad/controller certainly has a smoke/co detector built for it, and the alarm company also has the discount for fire, which means they factor in how widespread its availability and use is… I certainly have had it right when I installed the alarm panel/keypad early 2012… I cant understand why wyze doesnt offer that feature as you do have motion and entry sensors, standalone co detectors are required by law since decades!

In real fire alarm systems, the failure of a detector or the failure of a wiring connection are discovered and reported to the system as a “trouble.”

Having wifi as an extra feature is OK as long as the life safety does its job in a stand-alone fashion.

You just have to ask yourself, would you bet your life on your internet connection always being there? Would you take the responsibility to bet someone else’s life?

which? wyze doesnt offer a smoke/co detector yet! Regret that I didnt state that their outdoor v2 cam has a smoke/co detector alarm sound detection feature and I did clarify with their chat that it is not safe to depend on it mounted outdoors hearing the alarm going off indoors! What remained in mind was what is the feature on an outdoor cam for then? Smoke and CO outside will never get concentrated enough for detection. And no one installs it for these purposes outdoors. It will just catch the school’s alarm going off-the loud ones mounted outside for the whole neighborhood to hear!

Agreed, that is what I was saying that such detectors are very mature, and wyze has entry and motion sensors like everyone else, so why the absence of smoke/co detector which can sound locally as well as transmit over the net… including distinct ‘trouble’ and real ‘alarm’ to an outdoor speaker with one way wifi to receive… it is not anything like reinventing the wheel… my decade old legacy system has all these…that way if the occupant doesnt wake up atleast the whole neighborhood knows… would you bet your life on anything? If net can go down so too can copper as well as cell tower!!

Some folks don’t seem to understand that in order to sell something as a fire alarm system, it has to be UL listed as a fire alarm system. This is a “life safety” listing, not the electrical safety rating that you might see on a toaster. It has very significant and stringent requirements for reliability, and is a difficult and time consuming listing to get. There is a very important reason for this.

This topic is a blend of requests that should be separated. The simplest (and most useful) request is to have the Cam Protect service call the fire department when a camera reports that a fire alarm is detected. The existing fire alarm system already meets UL, so this is just an added reporting feature for HOME alarms. Other requests are great, but much more complicated. The alarm sense already exists on the newer cameras AND it already will send a push to your phone. The only issue is potential liability if the system fails, and that can be handled with a waiver,

Wyze cameras that have the built-in smoke/monoxide detector should not be a replacement for dedicated smoke/monoxide detectors. I would prefer to have smoke/monoxide detectors linked to my Wyze alarm monitoring system without the need to place cameras in my house. Currently, the only way to have smoke/monoxide detectors with Wyze is by using a camera which is a privacy issue. Also, the Wyze cameras don’t actually have real smoke/monoxide detectors. All Wyze cameras do to detect smoke/monoxide is “listen” to real smoke/monoxide detectors that produce the loud alarm sound and when Wyze cameras hear that sound then the camera picks up on it. But again, Wyze cameras don’t actually detect smoke/monoxide. They only detect the alarm sound from real smoke/monoxide alarms which is a BIG problem and allows for error.

Bottom line other alarm companies have no problem selling dedicated smoke/monoxide detectors. The technology is very mature. Most likely the reason why Wyze hasn’t made them yet is because they want to sell you their cameras which gets you into buying their subscription packages to their cam pro plans. So it’s a money thing like everything is. Then again they still haven’t supported multiple pin codes for arming/disarming the alarm and that feature has been around since the dinosaurs for the other guys. :man_facepalming::man_shrugging:

The situation is not necessarily so black and white. From the experience I can tell that if you have several cameras and several interconnected smoke/co detectors around the house, the detection is almost 100% sure during the first seconds when you run the detector’s test cycle. In the real situation the smoke/co alert sound is continuous which would make the detection fire proof (no pun intended) in practice.
One thing what Wyze could provide is the capability to teach cameras to recognize the detector’s alert signals. Something similar to what Ring offers.

kudos! A dedicated and 100% sensitive sensor to primary trigger [that is to smoke and co] is a must, is very mature, and is without alternatives and a cam that ‘just listens for something else producing such alarms’ is an apology and no substitute for the real deal. What cannot be understood is why leave this sensor alone as a customer who opts for the monitoring package would certainly have smoke/CO concerns which is much more likely than burglary and far more consequential to their fortunes!!

Wyze Smoke and CO2 Alarms

I currently have a nest thermostat along with CO2 and smoke alarms, if Wyze created these, it would give me the option to go to all Wyze home safety products

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Apparently the certification, testing and process of producing a smoke/co alarm is a protracted and costly one for wyze as it seems to involve leaping many compliance, legal and standards/quality procedures/processes/hurdles. Looks like it will be quite a while, if at all. So now the ask is is there a third party product that is a ‘smoke/co alarm’ and not something that ‘listens’ for such alarms, that will 100% inter-operate with the wyze hub/monitoring service, which at least one wyze [indoor?] cam already does?

No. There aren’t any existing Smoke\CO detectors that are compatible to be integrated with the HMS. Wyze partnering with an existing provider of this type of product for future integration might be an alternative avenue for bringing these to market.

Question… Which Wyze Cam are you referring to that does this already? The Wyze Cam onboard functionality and integration into HMS for Smoke\CO detection are all adjacent “listening” devices.