Wyze App is Tracking you

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You’re joking, right? 1st, you are 100% naive or just stupid, if you think this information isn’t going beyond Wyze. 2nd, I gave you actual proof that your GPS coordinates are being tracked 200+ times in a week through the Wyzw app. Why on earth would that information be necessary to wyze, especially at that frequency??? 3rd, the sub apps that are collecting the data aren’t even going to Wyze, they are most likely going to the source that provides the sub app, and Wyze is getting paid for that data.

I get you are a forum maven, so you are drowning in the Wyze coolaid, but use some common sense for just a few minutes.

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Hey, man. Pick apart the content of a post to your heart’s content, but don’t attack the poster.

I mean, based on Wyze’s own history of data leaks and outrageously poor communication and response to the Bitdefender report and it’s customers, I am more prone to distrust than trust anything Wyze says in its slick marketing platitudes or performance claims.

But you’ll accomplish more by debating on the basis of facts rather than personal character assassination, which is also against the forum Community Guidelines and can get a person banned. Just sayin’.

Some people are set in their opinions for various reasons. We aren’t gonna change that by calling them “stupid”.

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Point taken. I should have just stuck with 100% naive, which is probably more accurate.

And to the point of debating the facts, I know I agreed to let Wyze use some of my personal information, but the difference here is these sub apps embedded within the Wyze app that are collecting the information and most likely sending it directly to sources outside of Wyze. So I guess wyze isn’t actually collecting and selling my data. What Wyze is selling is access to my data so OTHERS CAN COLLECT and USE or SELL it.

Hopefully you can see the difference I am pointing out.

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Grain o’ salt, but it’s possible that the high number of attempts per tracker are due to repeated attempts because initial attempt is blocked. Maybe check w/ DDG.

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This was brought up on the Wyze discord server recently.

This was a direct response from a Wyze associate (Community Manager) in the thread,

"Tracking is a really broad term and I don’t like how this app makes people super nervous about things that are common and not harmful to you in any way. in this case, duckduckgo is blocking segment. io. we use this to understand how you use the app and interact with different screens, and to know when there’s a spike in errors and stuff like that. to be clear, wyze doesn’t and will never sell your data, so this is just blocking our ability to get wyze-specific info about how your use the app that is aggregated to educate our UX, app, and design teams

segment basically is for stuff like - “this app update that changed the design was bad because 30% less people than normal visited this screen that they need” - “this app update caused 20% more people to get this error screen” - “the microSD button is only tapped by 30% of our users, but the area dedicated to it is massive. maybe we should change the design”

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Here’s an older thread that interested people can review as well, which includes direct responses from Wyze in a bit more detail about those contracted 3rd party companies:

Key responses include the following:

Hopefully some of that information is helpful to those interested. Apparently, you can have all your data from Segment suppressed (not just from Wyze, but others too).

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iOS’s privacy settings allows me to pull up app privacy reports. In addition to hundreds of named domains I don’t like, such as doubleclick and facebook, the Wyze app has also had 385 exchanges with “unnamed domains” in the span of a couple of weeks.

This person asks a pertinent question:

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Personally, I would prefer Wyze focus it’s energy and attention more on making its firmware and software updates less bug infested in order to STOP BREAKING THE EQUIPMENT WE OWN than examining which app screens I view the most.

Why do their explanations always sound like a steaming pile of manure?

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Maybe you’ve got some stuck in your ears? :wink:

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I have been listening to you on occasion. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I suppose, once the products they sell are out if Wyze’s door, there’s no money to be made in supporting them. It becomes less of a priority.

As with Facebook and everywhere else, “If you’re not paying for a product, you are the product.”

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Beyond annoying. Pretend transparency. Bitter pacifier.

(not you @carverofchoice , the reality you relay.)

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The privacy report I’m looking at is specifically pertaining to the Wyze App’s communication with its own and other domains. Permissions are a totally different thing.

I have bluetooth enabled for the Wyze app but I’ve had the location permission set to “Never” from the start.

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A distinction without a difference for average people using the technology?

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Maybe in meaning but not in function.

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The average person can’t meaningfully set the settings. Hell, most exceptional people can’t either - with any certainty they’ve achieved what they aim to.

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Welp, point taken on @carverofchoice’s comments. So I just turned off blue tooth permission for the Wyze app as well.

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You guys are missing my point. Let me be clear:

I am NOT talking about Wyze collecting and selling my information.

What I AM making the point about is that it’s clear to me that wyze is selling access to my data through its app so that OTHER companies can collect and sell it. That’s what these sub programs are specifically designed to do, that are embedded in the Wyze app.

This way, Wyze can still say they aren’t selling the data they collect. They probably aren’t.

But our data is still getting collected and sold by these other companies who’s apps are embedded in the Wyze app.

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Perhaps the distinction is escaping me because I don’t know how to determine if or what other apps are embedded in the Wyze app. I won’t ask you to explain it, but can you please point me to any references that can show me how that works?

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Yeah, so in looking at my other apps that DuckDuckGo is blocking, the Wyze app has by far more blocked accesses than any of the other protected apps. The fact that the one sub app, “segment.io” buried in the Wyze app may have lots of attempts because it’s being blocked is kinda irrelevant when compared to what it’s collecting, like your GPS coordinates, unique identifier, etc.

Keep in mind, this data isn’t going to Wyze, it’s going to where segment.io wants to send it, and neither I nor you have any say in that happening unless you get a root firewall and manually block the IPs, or you get on DuckDuckGo’s beta like I did. Even if you block a few permissions, the list of 20 fields it’s collecting is still identifying you and tracking you through data you can’t remove access to.

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