Hey guys,
I am looking at getting 5g broadband. This is 5g mobile broadband and not 5GHz. I am reading that I might run into issues with CGNAT, all over my head but am wondering what success others are having using 5g broadband to access their Wyze Cam Pan v3’s. Does it work or does it not? I have asked both the internet provider and wyze but am only being told I might have issues, any help would be appreciated
thanks
OK, so you are looking at Cellular data as your Internet service. Should not be an issue CGNAT should not be a problem. Lots of people either using services that are using cellular data or Starlink for their cameras. Works fine from what I have heard. I have limited experience using a cellular hotspot without issues.
Obviously you will need to drive a 2.4 GHz WiFi access point that your cameras will connect to.
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That is how your modem/gateway connects to the internet. That device will still provide 2.4/5gHz wireless to your devices, otherwise none will connect.
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A word of caution, and I say this before you come back and ask, “how/why”.
Whatever, whenever you swap out your existing Internet setup gear for another, if you wish to minimize your setup effort, if you wish to avoid having to add everything (EVERYTHING) again to your new network, ALWAYS configure the new stuff to use the same SSID/Network name and password/passphrase that the old one was using. Its just that simple to avoid failure and re-doing everything. So be warned.
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@WildBill said it best here, the method to which your ISP gives you connection and the connection from your router to your devices are vastly different. Most of our ecosystem will connect to the 2.4 gigahertz system, some of the newer devices do have the 5 gigahertz radio ( these still are able to connect to 2.4ghz). So as long as you have a fairly up to date router Broadcasting your network you should be all good. The 5G of the service you’re connected to for your Internet overall from your provider won’t matter as long as it gives you a capable speed, which nearly and I stress nearly all do these days. our devices dont pull much at all.
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Thanks guys for all the replies,
It sounds promising I think I will go ahead and keep my fingers crossed it works and will report back either eay.
But before I pull the trigger, this is from the isp. (sorry should have included this in the original post)
"Techy types should be aware that Home Wireless Broadband uses CG-NAT. Carrier-grade NAT (Network Address Translation) is a type of network that assigns services with a private IP address, instead of a dynamic public IP address. Our network will then translate that private address into a public address. This means that the following items (which depend on internal NAT) will not work on Home Wireless Broadband:
- Port forwarding
- Hosting web, email or file servers internally
- Smart Home systems (e.g. accessing security camera footage remotely, home automation and printers)
- Remote Access (i.e. accessing your home computer or devices from another location)"
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Not sure exactly how this might or might not affect Wyze cameras and other products. Wyze doesn’t depend on port forwarding to access cameras. Connections are negotiated by having the camera and app connect to Wyze servers then establishing a link between the two devices. Public dynamic IP addresses are used with port forwarding and dynamic DNS servers so that you can make a connection to services on your home network.
My gut reaction is this warning is of no importance, but, since I don’t have that service, I can’t say for sure.
Update: I was using T-Mobile Home Internet (and have it installed for some permanent house guests) and it was working fine for Wyze devices. T-Mobile uses CG-NAT for their home internet solution.
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I agree with Wild Bill, I too don’t think it will make a lot of difference.
One of the things we are missing from your explanation is “what you are using now?” Don’t need a lot of detail. Is your current gear a combination cable modem/Router ? I ask because if it is, you can ignore my next paragraph. If it is not a combo, read on:
If your router is a single router or a mesh router (mesh is generally better), I would simply plug my existing single router/main router of my mesh into the new 5G “modem/gateway”. and see if my stuff comes back up on the Internet. Could be that simple to see if this stuff works. So, when you try this, you want the carrier modem/gateway turned on and connected, then plug your existing router in to its Ethernet port and turn it on. After its up, does stuff connect? Can you access stuff from your phone/'s cell connection without wifi? There’s you test.
You can test the speed to see if its acceptable. And leaving it like this likely will save you some headaches. There may not be enough benefits in removing it to make the effort worthwhile.
If your current is a combo, this is highly unlikely to work like I suggested.
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The above two points have me worried that the OP might have an issue with the cameras.
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Connected one of my cameras to T-mobile and my phone to my other ISP and everything works normally. No problems with CGNAT.
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Good to know. We need to remember this stuff when a new guys shows up and we don’t start all over again
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I can understand why you might think that, especially in the context of this message:
Absolute statements like that are problematic because I don’t think they’re entirely accurate, and they likely cause lots of consternation for potential users. I wonder if the ISP would be better served by re-evaluating their messaging and wording it as more of a disclaimer that indicates that some things may not work with their service and that they’re not responsible for providing direct support for third-party products and services.
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I think that statement is directed towards NVR and IP cameras, most of which require port forwarding for access outside the user’s network. Wyze cameras don’t work that way and don’t exhibit the problem.
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You might be correct about the intent, but a casual read might lead someone to think, “So, if I sign up for your service, I’m not even going to be able to use my printer?!” I just think blanket statements like “will not work” in this case might be unnecessarily contributing to @MattaM’s apprehension.
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Update,
5g modem arrived - within 5 minutes set up and working. I can access Wyze cams no issues. So anyone wondering if TPG 5G broadband works with Wyze cams I can report that yes they do!
Thanks everyone for their help
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