If they could do it easily (meaning cheaply, minimal development costs, and not causing increased support calls) they would have done it by now as the current design is costing them money. It is nowhere near as easy as copying and pasting an AI response from Google.
Nowhere does it say that web view is P2P. In fact I’m not even sure they say anywhere that the normal app is P2P.
TMHI has even stricter data caps and the latency will be terrible for remote camera streaming.
That was a bug and it was fixed in the beta firmware, at least for the V3s.
well, that was grok, and it was illustrative, not functional… FWIW - I spent 30 years in data communications and protocols. This includes network management, troubleshooting and code development in both C and machine code… AI is a good way to illustrate to people with less experience like yourself. I’m retired, and have no intent to waste too much time on other people’s bugs or need to learn. Who knows - maybe you have some valuable input, and I wouldn’t want to discourage that, but you don’t seem to be a subject matter expert with experience. just someone with a partially informed opinion and satisfied or apologetic to the status quo.
This is my experience with the setup we have. I have a TM internet box in a Rubbermaid plastic tub literally screwed to the side of a temp power pole in the mountains on our rural 200+ acres. (we have 3 temp power poles total due to acquiring additional neighbors land) The box has has a Yolink LoRa hub, Omada controller, Omada switch and EAP650 AP with outdoor Cat8 cable. The AP feeds 2 ( w / home made solar setup - lithium camper battery, 100 watt panel, POE injector powered ) Omada EAP650s) via wireless which are on 16ft 4x4 posts in the woods. The camper has a Winegard access point wirelessly connected which feeds 3 cameras on the camper, a Dish Joey, WiFi Thermostat and an Echo. A second temp pole has another EAP650. This AP also feeds another AP with about 275 feet of direct bury cat 6 with POE and wireless backhaul to the main. In total there are 14 Wyze cams consisting of a mix of V4 wired and 2k outdoor with 6 watt solar panels, There is also 8 Yolink LoRa devices and 2 connected remote gate openers.
Hurricane Helene knocked out the closest cell tower power for about 30 hours. In 27 months the system has worked perfectly in all weather and temperatures. There is about a 1 second delay from my house 330 miles away. At the house we have. 10GB fiber to a 6 unit TP-link Be11000 mesh. On the iPad, from opening the Wyze app to live view of a camera is about 2 seconds. When In the camper on site, I get 380 down and 100 up. In the t-mobile management app the cellular metrics show a perfect signal to the tower over a mile away. I can sit in the camper, stream 4k on tv, the grandkids on iPads and still view the cameras. I pay 55/mo total for 2 Tmob boxes and one is wired as fallback at the house. The TMob box has full remote management as do the Omada products. I regularly update firmware on cameras and the AP’s without issues. The TM HI has no data caps.
The only failures we’ve had is a couple of the 6 watt solar panels died, the USB to USBC adapter rusted, but I’ve found direct USBC panels and pack the fitting with dielectric grease has solved that. One surge protector failure on the TMHI due to water intrusion, other than that It’s been great. There was no real planning or network analysis, I just purchased a pile of stuff, threw it in the SUV and spent 3 days installing.
Im not shilling for TM, but I put one in at my sisters and moms homes to reduce their internet / phone bills from 130 to 45. Mom has the TM box, a magic jack and a TTY captel ( she’s 95% deaf) and the Captel works 100% with the MJ phone line. I don’t use TM phone service, just the TMHI. The TM box also has no commitment, so it’s an easy solution to try - don’t like it - take it back to any TM store.
Cat tax included.
Just for fun, the rotary phone in the background came from NASA Kennedy space center.
Pic is Streaming 8 cameras in webview works fine ( as seen last night ) a video would show the seconds clicking by all cameras are set to max resolution. A camera may occasionally drop out and reconnect but it’s quite good all considering. I think when we build the toy barn I’ll trench the entire property perimeter and lay CAT 8 or Fiber and Power and switch to the fiber offered by the PoCo. Like anything - my solution might not be your solution or work for you.
So you’re a subject matter expert on modern web browsers, OSes, and the security protocols they’ve put in place to prevent malicious apps from accessing your network?
If condescension and personal attacks are your go-to when someone disagrees with you, not really much point in any further discussion.
Not saying TMHI is unusable for cams, certainly a lot better than satellite.
For many people, especially ones in your situation (like @habib at his remote island where he has to monitor to ensure the beavers don’t stage a coup) cellular internet is a great thing to have.
Just saying the latency and fluctuations in bandwidth can cause some issues and might be a partial or full explanation for certain symptoms. It does have its limitations and may not be able to handle a bunch of cams all streaming at once.
your comment about the ai example was condescending, so i gave you a reply in kind, and also some info on who you are dealing with. if you dont do it again, we’ll get along fine.
So, you don’t need or offer any help. Are you here purely to entertain yourself?
hardly. the implementation is inefficient, or dont you agree?
Neither I agree or disagree. Just curious.
Thanks for the laugh.
anytime…
But you specifically said it’s unusable has data caps. And again that it’s subject to other limits.
There are always better options for everything you can throw enough money at and everything is subject to its limits. That doesn’t make it unusable or unsatisfactory for use below those limits.
If someone is on an island why wouldn’t they just drop an undersea fiber cable or a microwave tower connect to a fiber network.
Because the benefit of spending 250k nets no value added benefit over a $50 cellular connect to watch a camera.
Hey, how’d my cat teleport to your house? He answers to the name of Kovu when he is at my house.
Nice. Ours is Ninja. He’s 8 and was a shelter born kitty. He follows me like a puppy. Black cats are the best Xerox copies ever. He can somehow disappear and be invisible on white furniture - so teleporting is definitely on the table. We’re driving 2 hours tomorrow morning to pick up a 3yo Bombay who has been in a shelter for 6-8 months. We hope he fits in and this can be his forever home.
Ours is laying in front of the fireplace roasting his belly and watching TV as I type this.
Scroll up, didn’t say that.
It does
Obviously if it is the best option, that’s what you use. But going from Xfinity to TMHI, as much as I hate to admit it since I hate Xfinity, would be a step down and make things worse, not better. Nobody is suggesting paying millions of dollars to avoid using cellular internet.
TMHI Does NOT have data caps.
Think as you want.
I think you’re both right.
From what T-Mobile told me and my parents and my brothers, they are both unlimited AND have a sort of data cap (for any new users after Jan 1 2024) that they call a “deprioritization point” in the following way:
They give us a data cap on the fastest speed, they told me that limit is 1.2TB per month, and then for what they call “Heavy Users”, after that they may de-prioritize our traffic to a lower speed, particularly during certain high volume times. But because they continue to give internet at no extra cost and we can continue to use data, it’s not actually a data cap and is still unlimited, just deprioritized.
But there are 2 caveats to this:
Because of both of those exceptions, you are completely right. Also because they don’t charge anything more or stop people’s data, it’s technically not a data cap, and you are right in that sense too.
However, Dave is also right that they now have a 1.2TB limit on their priority speeds. This is referred to as a data cap, even by TMobile on several of their FAQs and explanations, and then they downgrade people to a lower speed (in certain high traffic areas). So it may not be a full stop or extra charge, but it is a data cap on that tier of service, just not all data.
At least that is what they told me and my extended family. Therefore, you’re both right, and hopefully can stop being upset with each other over it since it seems to mostly be either a misunderstanding or semantics/interpretation.
Can we all agree to decide the data cap is mostly irrelevant or tangential to whether or not the V4 appears to possibly use more data than the other cameras and more than it should as this topic is about?
I’m not anti TMHI, for some it is the best option. Just saying the suggestion to switch from Xfinity to TMHI is, in my opinion. a bad one, as much as I hate Xfinity.
The latency and fluctuating bandwidth is probably more of a concern for most people than the data cap. But you can’t totally ignore the data cap either, after the priority data is exhausted, your speeds can severely drop, sometimes to a point that even websites won’t load. Their “priority” is also debatable, around here at least, you get lower priority than even MVNO cell phone users.
I don’t think it is the case, based on OP’s usage, it seems to line up perfectly with the approximately 1MBPS per cam.
Unfortunately some seem to interpret debate or disagreement as a reason to showboat or attack. I guess that’s just the nature of online forums. I have strong opinions, but I think it is pretty easy to discern my opinions from my statements of fact.
