Do you people think WyzeCam is really for $20? I don't think it is

Everyone understands (or should) there is always additional costs everything, no matter what the advertised price.

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I understand what f.catus is saying but if you are not in the business of online sales you might not understand how things actually work. Most likely Wyze uses a third party logistics, 3PL, to managing their shipping as handling it themselves would add extra overhead and costs. A 3PL charges a fee for each unit is ships and then the actual shipping fee. This is most likely why you don’t get a large multi-piece discount when you order more then one but they ship in the same size box.

I think every one here is pretty happy with the cost that they paid, even if it isn’t a $20 to your door step. I can’t find anything that competes with as much support as Wyze near the same costs. Now if they would just come out with a dedicated outdoor rated camera.

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Thanks everyone for the replies. I understand that Wyze doesn’t ship to Aus, I brought off Amazon because I wanted that product and to support Wyze. I am disappointed that they don’t ship to Aus and don’t want amazonn to do it, I don’t know why. But I do know there are a lot of people out here that won’t pay that price and will go with the cheaper knock offs. And if you don’t think that’s a risk then ask the hundreds of startups that have been bankrupted by knock offs. Maybe you should consider expanding?

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What it all boils down to is - are you willing to pay $X for the ENTIRE PACKAGE (this includes the hardware, the software, the community, the forum, the support) for what the camera is SUPPOSED to do WHEN you buy it.
I’m looking forward to RTSP and MaxDrive but the PACKAGE now does more than what I bought it for, what with multi-window.

Large is relative, but you do get a shipping discount for multiple cameras in the same order. For example, when I ordered 10, they were about 7% less per unit after shipping than a single one.

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That’s why I ordered 4,
BUT!!
How or when did you manage to order 10?
The
https://www.wyze.com/product/wyze-cam-v2/
page won’t let me order more than 7.

It was in 2017. Might have changed since then.

I was but there are tradeoffs.

Will RTSP continue to be developed?

We don’t have the resources to keep developing two branches of firmware for Wyze Cam v2 and Wyze Cam Pan. This means that the RTSP branch will be upgraded infrequently. Adapting to RTSP the version will prevent the camera from supporting any future functionality additions, such as A.I. for Human/Animal/Vehicle recognition, event video tagging, further stability improvements, and bug fixes.

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If you want to start talking about total cost you could also say that without a $10 microSD card you’re not getting the full functionality, so it’s really $19.99 + $9.99 + $5.99 = $35.97… plus tax…and continue with custom mounting hardware, longer USB cables, spray paint, or whatever else you need to create the complete package for your application.

@f.catus I agree that “it’s only $20” is not accurate, and I never say that when recommending Wyze to my friends and family. I tell them they can get “several cams for under $100 with no subscription fees” and that alone is usually enough to get their attention compared to any other product on the market. In reality 3 cams + 3 SD cards + shipping comes to $103.97, so it’s a pretty realistic estimate. You can also buy SD cards cheaper elsewhere and come in well below $100. If they just want one cam to test I usually say it’s “about $35” including SD card.

However, I’ve never seen advertising with “under $20” as the biggest selling point (and I’ve never seen official advertising from Wyze at all), so that may be more of a problem with third parties who are promoting it.

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My two cents:

and Frederik’s:

I buy security cameras all the time, and since buying my first Wyze, I have not purchased any other brand. I don’t care if Wyze charges for shipping. I care that they have a great product that works (inside and outside) and was supported by Amazon before their own product. I really like the attitude of the staff at Wyze, and even if they get a buck or two out of shipping and handling, it is worth it to me. Wyze - Keep up the great work.

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I’m sure you can find a camera that costs more than $20…if thats what you’re looking for.

But can you find one that costs less, with the support and features?

Ok well… It’s only $25! That was easy, now everyone can be happy right?!? :joy: Yeah right.

Actually I’m sick and tired of the false advertising of all the companies that say, “Free Shipping.” I call BS. Their shipping costs are not free. If the S&H is not charged separately, then is already included in the price of the product but it is NOT free. You can’t possibly believe that a company actually “eats” the S&H costs on every product they ship. If they did they wouldn’t be in business for very long. Just saying. :slight_smile:

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I paid $18 for my Wyze at a local electronics store… $0 shipping.

I have seen them for that price, but not in a store. What is the store name - I might go there.

Free shipping sucks people in while artificially increasing the profit for the seller.

Here’s how to think about it…

Let’s say you can buy a Wyze cam for $20 and it costs $6 to ship it (this is all theoretical, you can’t actually buy a good security cam for $20). All kinds of people will gripe and call BS or false advertising because the cost of the camera requires a TOTAL expenditure of $26 to own.

Now, let’s say that you start selling the same exact camera for $25 and offer free shipping. Which one is everyone going to buy? Right. The one for $25 because the total cost is $1 less than the one that was “falsely” advertised (and is, honestly, more expensive overall).

So, how does the $25 camera actually increase profit? Well, first of all, you’re actually going to sell them. Second, look at the extended cost to buy more than one…

With “free shipping”, it’s $25 times the number of cameras. Period. Always and forever. $50, $75, $100, etc.

With shipping requiring an extra charge, two cameras is $48.88, three is $71.03, four is $92.83, etc.

Everyone loves something for “free”, until they realize how much it’s costing them. So, go ahead… [redacted] spend way more than you should on products.

The camera is under $20. Period. [redacted] shipping isn’t being charged to you in a blind fashion.

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This whole thread needs a little context and scale.

A Nest Cam Indoor is $249 USD plus a $100 per year subscription fee (using the middle tier) plus free shipping.

A Wyze Cam v2 is $19.99 USD with no subscription fee plus $5.99 shipping.

It is true that Wyze are charging $5.99 for shipping, when Nest ship for free - but for ($249 + $100) = $349 I could buy 13 Wyze V2 cameras. More if I order them in bulk and take advantage of bulk shipping.

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