Apple HomeKit Integration

I’m with you here, I’ve been a pre-order guy with every Wyze product for 3 years and if they don’t get us something with HomeKit ASAP, I’m bailing for these Eufy’s. I’m tired of waiting.
Wyze makes awesome cameras and I love the community support but at the end of the day, if they don’t give us what we want, we will go elsewhere

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Same guys… I’ve been using Wyze for years now. They promised and they didn’t deliver. I really trust the company a lot to put a camera where I live but if they can’t give us HomeKit in the short term/next months I’ll definitely go to Eufy’s. We gave them the idea, we asked for it, we told them that they would’ve owned the market if they did it and still we didn’t got any answer. I am a big fan, I used to recommend Wyze to everyone and I even got a full set for my Mom’s house. :sweat: :sweat: :sweat: Sad this has to end this way if we didn’t get any response soon ):

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I know they are still trying for the sensors/locks and items like that but the cameras have been off the table for a bit, they asked for an exception and were not given one by Apple. The current cams do not have the ability to meet the requirements.

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Cameras are the only good product Wyze has. Sensors are trash and plugs are unreliable. Years later, don’t continue to be lead by “we are still working on it” line. Just move on.

Doug Reed

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It’s so sad. I have no idea how to run a company or strategize products so I can’t say what they’re prioritizing is right or wrong but Id guess it’s profitable or they wouldn’t be doing it.

That said as long as this HomeKit conversation has been going on there have been all these “me too” home automation products, the bulbs, locks, scale - now a thermometer (?!?) etc. and there doesn’t seem to be anything spectacular sadly. They’ve really gotten away from their cameras in my opinion and that was what drew A LOT of people I know.

We still don’t have an outdoor model. We don’t have a wireless model. We lost the XnorAi technology to Apple itself.

I think I’d have more respect if they just came out with a straight commitment either way. If they can’t share their priority roadmap of Apple integration I have to assume it’s a permanent “No”.

And again - I say it’s sad, because I think they had THE edge in simple, functional, home smart cameras; they just needed to make the leap to serve the Apple ecosystem and now - pending how they perform; Eufy is going to eat their lunch. :cry:

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That is a matter of opinion, they work great for me. I had only posted the comment that was made earlier about how Homekit on the current cameras will not happen for the people who were calling for a response. WYZE has already said it was no on the current cameras. They say they are trying on the other items still, all I have on that is again their word for it.

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I agree the Homekit piece is frustrating. Personally I love the sensors and they work flawlessly for me. I get all my alerts on my devices from cameras and sensors, sensors trigger the cameras properly. I keep the Wyze app right with my other home apps and
it all works with the exception that I can’t use voice (Siri) with the devices. That being said, even some of my homekit devices (like Arlo) don’t play well with Homekit. I much prefer to go to the Arlo app rather than wait extended periods for the feed to
show up in my Home app. The grass isn’t always greener.

**Dennis McElroy **

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I have 14 sensors none of which still work. Yet another useless rebuttal from the guy who doesn’t use a Mac.

Doug Reed

Hi Doug,

Just for the record I use a Mac. :laughing:

My sensors are all working, I use them in combination with Alexa routines. In order to keep them happy I reboot the cameras with the bridges on a schedule. It’s a workaround of course but it does work.

I use HomeKit as well, but to be honest I find Alexa does more and is easier for my family and guests to use so it’s never been a huge deal for me.

Anyway, if you prefer HomeKit that is entirely fine. This generation of Wyze devices is unlikely to be HomeKit enabled, maybe in the future. But for now as you have observed it’s unlikely in the extreme.

I have lots of Apple products and I dont have any issues with any of the Sense products. I have had my sensors up and running since July 2019 and they have not failed once. Really the only Wyze product I have issues with is the Wyze Lock Gateway which is in the process of being replaced.

I think Wyze makes great products but I am also a firm believer that to get the most use out of them at least for me, they need to be added to HomeKit to interact with my other smart home products. Right now when it comes to sense and the bulbs its more of a set them and forget about it situation. An example of this would be I have two Wyze bulbs in my master closet. When motion is detected the lights turn on, when no motion is detected the lights go off. I have had this working since the bulbs have come out and it hasn’t failed since. In other parts of the house I would want the motion sensor to control more than just a Wyze product via HomeKit. Yes, I could swap my bulbs out for Hue (already have many Hue bulbs) and the motion sensor for Aqara but at least when it comes to the motion sensor I havent seen one on the market as compact as the Wyze one.

I am still hopeful Wyze can get it together. If that means I have to buy more cameras at $35-$40 I am not opposed I would just like to have the option to do so. It seems like the logical option for Wyze would be to build a standalone gateway that can work with all of their current products except for the cams that can feed into Homekit. Then bring out the V3 cams with HomeKit secure video support. Not only do I see a lot more new customers coming in but existing customers would also need to buy them to have the ability to use HomeKit. It would be a huge win all around.

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Very well said, totally 100% agree with you!
Today I received e-mail from Eufy for 35% discount for pre-order “starting tomorrow”,
Very excited for Homekit as all my accessories support Homekit
Very sad to lose WYZE business as their cameras are very reliable!
Oh well, WYZE you lost my business for not keeping up with latest technology

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Not sure if this is the right forum for this comment or not…mods please correct me if I am out of line :grin:

I am a huge, but admittedly frustrated, fan of Wyze who has recommended your products to many, many people. I know that the current camera (and looks like future because I am not away that they new outdoor camera will be either) are HomeKit compatible, but are there any plans to go the route of others and develop a bridge that is compatible and have the cameras talk to it?

After debating and wating I have recently installed HOOBS on Rasberry Pi 4 just so that I can have some level of integration and it works well. I am currently trying to figure out a way to have my camera’s motion sensor trigger automations, but otherwise works well. It would be nice to be able to have “true” integration though especially if I could retain features such as person detection.

I am curious…is there a reason why Wyze would not point people to Homebridge/HOOBS (maybe others) as potential workarounds while Wyze continues to research a HK integration? Or to mention that RTSP is a workaround to save recordings to a NAS since the MaxDrive was scrapped? Please forgive me if these are addressed elsewhere and I missed it.

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The reason we are not pointing people to those solutions is:
1 - We have not tested this solution so we don’t know if this is working properly or not
2 - We rather spend the time in developing features for the larger community. We have a massive backlog and trying to address it.
3 -And like almost everything in business, there is a legal aspect. It’s one thing when someone says: “I use this and this is working great for me and solved all my problems”, it’s another one when a company makes an endorsement. That creates a liability and this is just too dangerous.
For RTSP, this is a very limited set of people that even understand the term RTSP, let alone are capable of installing and configuring it properly. Pushing people towards RTSP would be asking for an increase of support tickets, meaning diverting resources from development to support and therefore slowing the overall progress for the large majority. We also have limited ability to provide support for RTSP due to how versatile it is.

As for people asking why we are not supporting HomeKit, here are the reasons:
1 - No, it’s not because we don’t like Apple. In fact, we have been talking to them since early 2019.
2 - But HomeKit is a peer-to-peer-based ecosystem and we have a cloud-based ecosystem. This translates into the devices that we have not being able to receive local commands. Google has also introduced a Local Home SDK and I’m sure Alexa will not be that far behind. So in order for us to support local controls, we have to redesign the entire firmware. Not an easy task and it is started by doing some layering work (which is what we are working on). And if we do local control, we will try to get HomeKit, Google, and future-proof for Alexa as much as possible from the very beginning.
3 - Wyze Cam on HomeKit. We tried. I spent 3 weeks solid on trying to make it happen and, at the end, realized that we had hardware limitations. HomeKit requires 2 streams at 1080p and 720p @ 30fps. We have 3 streams coming out of the camera at 1080p and 360p at 15fps/10fps. The bottom line is that we are too far from the minimum spec to be able to bridge the gap.

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Check your facts again.

Why not help me out boss?

If you’re referring to the fact that, my now 2-month old post, has dated info as it relates to a recently announced (not-yet-available) sub-$100 HomeKit cam - well, I suppose you really showed me, huh.

I was going to mention that at the time of your post, and technically to this day, your assertion was and is correct. We now have an announcement of the first sub $100 Homekit cameras but did not even have that at the time you posted.

Technology moves in fits and starts. Partially I believe due to companies like Wyze, we are seeing the HomeKit market expand to lower price points. I imagine future Wyze cameras will probably support HomeKit as well. They certainly tried.

HomeKit is a nice to have for me, but I suspect the majority of Wyze’s user base does not honestly care. All those with Android phones and tablets certainly don’t. And a fair number of users that have Apple phones don’t care either.

Now what excites me about the upcoming Eufy devices is NAS recording and potentially more expansive AI on the device ( Car/Pet/Facial Recognition ) etc.

I imagine most or all or more of that stuff is on Wyze’s radar as well. It’s why it’s such a great time to be alive eh?

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Surely hardware development doesn’t exist in a vacuum? I can’t imagine Wyze isn’t ever planning to up the hardware capabilities of their cameras? It would also appear that we are seeing camera makers that are able to simultaneously support a peer-to-peer ecosystem and a cloud-based ecosystem and let the consumer choose which one fits their needs. It’s becoming more clear to the average consumer that cloud-based systems are not great from a security perspective. Speed to market is a factor though so I wish the Wyze team luck.

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Apple (or other) Homekit integrations would be nice- and an even bigger sales point BUT please do correct your firmware before going on…your motion failures sucks BIG time! I can’t understand why Wyze won’t fix those things in like ASAP?

I don’t need HomeKit to work with cameras. I’d just be trading one app for another to view it. What I need is the ability to ask Siri to turn on a light or plug. Is that doable???

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